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Harvey@NZ <kiwilove@co.nz> typed:

"Amanda Angelika" <manic_mandy@hotmail.com> wrote in
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In news:i_G3h.9472$rn6.4283@newsfe1-win.ntli.net,
Amanda Angelika <manic_mandy@hotmail.com> typed:

I suppose it could be the wreckage of a Russian space craft, if
those are however human remains they would have to have been fairly
recent, there was to my knowledge no failed Russian manned moon
landing, but who knows perhaps it was carried out in secret and was
never reported because it failed, but if it isn't of earthly origin
then it must be ET. --
Amanda

Actually I have done a bit more checking on this and now think it is
possible that's not an android at all but is none other than Yuri
Gagarin himself

Gagarin apparently died on the 27th March 1968 in a MiG-15UTI on a
routine training flight near Kirzhachat. However what if that was a
cover story and in reality he had been sent to the Moon?

At the time the race was on to put a man on the Moon. The Russians
had been working to put a man on the moon since 1959 see:
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/R/Russian_manned_Moon.html

They would have most likely chosen Gagarin for such a mission because
he had been the first man in Space and was the Russian's best known
cosmonaut, so why not the first man on the Moon?

It is highly likely IMO they would have kept such a mission secret
and would have only announced it if it had been a success. It was
never announced because it failed and Gagarin was killed.

It is interesting to note there seem to be objects in this photograph
http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/data/5.jpg that seem to have
red paint on them Consistent with Soviet markings. Secondly there are
parts there that could be consistent with a Soviet Zond Lander module
http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/Z/Zond.html although
heavily wrecked and melted there are clear metal brackets on the
piece of wreckage in the foreground and other very mechanical
looking parts

The other striking thing about it is although the skull looks more
like android than a human skull. It is highly likely that the space
helmet or other head gear would have melted in the searing heat of
the crash leaving parts of it melted and fused onto the skull.
http://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/Images/StarChild/space_level2/gagarin_bi
g.gif Although there does appear to be a small fragment of the helmet
laying quite near to the skull. IMO there is also a passing
resemblance in the physiognomy of the skull with Gargarin himself.

Of course I don't know if any of this is true, but if so it proves
NASA went to the Moon but  shows the US were probably not the first.
In a strange sort of Ironic way, it was perhaps fitting that the last
men on the moon paid tribute to the first.

Note - it is nice to be a healthy skeptic.

Because everyone does lie to us.
Politicians do (left, right and centre) - religious people do.
The only way to know anything (whether it is truthful) is to see the
supporting evidence - then there is no doubt about it.

Well I'll always be a sceptic. It's easy to take some basic facts and build
an alternative interpretation. Particularly where governments are concerned
since there are invariably gaps in what the public are told. Sometimes this
is because some things are secret and covered up (for a variety of reasons),
sometimes it's because we simply don't have sufficient education or
knowledge to understand all the information that is supplied to us or
accessible through further study. Conspiracy theories therefore are
relatively easy to construct, particularly where there are such large gaps
in what we actually know.

That being the case whilst I find conspiracy theory entertaining on an
intellectual level and it's interesting to play make believe and play with
"what if" scenarios. On a fundamental level I don't really believe
conspiracy theories. They are just another interpretation that may or not be
true and fundamentally we can't know what we don't know or is hidden until
it is revealed.
-- 
Amanda