On May 14, 8:47 pm, S...@pffit.spam (Bruce Hutchinson) wrote:

<mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On May 13, 9:25 pm, S...@pfffit.spam (Bruce Hutchinson) wrote:

mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ramey's explanation was issued late in the afternoon of the 8th-  too
late for most newspapers except for some evening editions on the west
coast.

So then maybe that was part of the change of story to the
balloon one, but once again then we are not left with any
sort of real proof that it was just a balloon. The problem is,
why hasn't the government disclosed the _real_ balloon
debris, etc. if that's what happened there?

Why on earth would "they" have kept a torn and shredded radar
reflector and the blackened, crumbling pieces of a neoprine balloon?  

So then why not just say that they got rid of it? Why go and give
away a _different_ reflector and say "Here, this is it! This is the
1947 Roswell radar target!"? Why _decieve_?

They crated
it all off,

Says who...?  to where?

Who then do you think picked up all that debris? The farmers?
What was all that military stuff about, anyway? Who picked it up?
Even if it _was_ just a balloon, it was still picked up by the
miltary!

so they should have it. And why all the incredible
secrecy, anyway, if the balloon and instrumentation were
made from purely ordinary materials and technology?

What "incredible secrecy"?  Please cite.

You mean you didn't hear about all the debris being moved
away and hidden, all the refusals to talk about it? Why
_waiting_ so long to "tell" about it? Why didn't they let
anyone keep any of the foil? Only the _purpose_ was
classified, the _materials_ were not. There shouldn't
really have been much of a problem taking back a couple
scraps of mylar that's well, after all it's just the same
stuff candy wrappers are made out of. There's _no
way_ you could figure out the purpose of the balloon
with a couple scraps of mylar that might as well have
been from your Hershey's wrapper. Why are there
documents still withheld, if UFOs are nothing but
balloons, atmospheric phenomena, and other "ordinary"
things? Like on one UFO program they talked about how
a "Justification" for withholding UFO documents (not the
actual UFO documents themselves, which would
suggest that to tell what those _reasons_ are would
require divulging the "big secret" (ie. the reasons are
dependent on it)) had been blanked out to the point of
uselessness and it was even shown on screen --
whole pages were nearly 100% covered with marker
ink. There's something unusual going on. Whether or
not it involves aliens cannot be said with certainty but
there is definitely something far from mundane going on
here.

hutch

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