On May 14, 5:04 am, www.freedomtofascism.com <t...@r.us> wrote:

On 13 May 2007 16:04:28 -0700,mike3<mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:

But what would happen if our civilization COLLAPSED
to RIGHT NOW, therefore _HALTING_ all this environmental
destruction?

You are right about this -- but it depends on how it collapses and how much
damage is done to the environment.  The collapse would have to be quick and
complete, wherein elements of the corrupted society are immediately killed
off.

Such a complete collapse will surely happen. For example, money is
becoming more worthless. What happens when the dollar crashes? The
American Empire dies.

Or when the oil runs out. I've read some things that suggest there is
not enough oil to  totally destroy the environment -- in fact our
civilization
will crash from oil loss before that.

There are so many things working against it that will crash it.

We should be focused now on building the new civilization to take over
from when this one crashes, since it's a darn certainty it's going to
crash, and completely crash. Time to start doing work -- to start
building something new. The less you support the old system, the
faster it'll die.

If Russia and China engaged the US/UK is a carefully planned
asymmetric war, and completely irradiated all vestiges of the current
grossly corrupted Rothschild world control, then humanity has a very good
chance to survive and start again with a non-elite controlled world
government.

Or once the US just runs out of petroleum and can't chug anymore.
Or when all this tyranny with the economy leads to the devaluement
of the dollar. When the dollar becomes worthless, you can bet your
butt that the American Empire will keel over and die.

This civilization will collapse, and then we will have a new one. I
still think that we WILL survive, period. It's only a question of how
much we will suffer as we transition from this corrupt and evil
civilization to a new, morally right, peaceful civilization. We will
survive, however how we want to get to this future is up to us.
We have a hard route and an easy route. We could have world
peace right now -- if we were to just all decide "Let's go and
have world peace". Bam! We'd have peace so fast you wouldn't
believe your eyes. But that does not seem to be what we have
chosen. Instead we have chosen the Hard path: continue in
the evil direction until we torture ourselves so much that we
can't stand it any more, finally give up and change.

I've seen many things to suggest that our present civilization
cannot continue long enough to totally ruin the environment to the
point of uninhabitability.

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