political relocation and Overpopulation Town Project.
Subject: political relocation and Overpopulation Town Project.
From: Al
Date: 30/12/2007, 19:52
Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo, alt.conspiracy.new-world-order, alt.religion.kibology, talk.bizarre, rec.pets.herp

Meet the women who won't have babies - because they're not eco
friendly
  By NATASHA COURTENAY-SMITH and MORAG TURNER - More by this author »
  Last updated at 22:05pm on 21st November 2007

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  Had Toni Vernelli gone ahead with her pregnancy ten years ago, she
would
  know at first hand what it is like to cradle her own baby, to have a
pair
  of innocent eyes gazing up at her with unconditional love, to feel a
  little hand slipping into hers - and a voice calling her Mummy.


  But the very thought makes her shudder with horror.

  Because when Toni terminated her pregnancy, she did so in the firm
belief
  she was helping to save the planet.

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  Desperate measures: Toni Vernelli was steralised at age 27 to reduce
her
  carbon footprint


  Incredibly, so determined was she that the terrible "mistake" of
  pregnancy should never happen again, that she begged the doctor who
  performed the abortion to sterilise her at the same time.


  He refused, but Toni - who works for an environmental charity -
  "relentlessly hunted down a doctor who would perform the
irreversible
  surgery.


  Finally, eight years ago, Toni got her way.

  At the age of 27 this young woman at the height of her reproductive
years
  was sterilised to "protect the planet".

  Incredibly, instead of mourning the loss of a family that never was,
her
  boyfriend (now husband) presented her with a congratulations card.


  While some might think it strange to celebrate the reversal of
nature and
  denial of motherhood, Toni relishes her decision with an almost
religious
  zeal.


  "Having children is selfish. It's all about maintaining your genetic
line
  at the expense of the planet," says Toni, 35.

  "Every person who is born uses more food, more water, more land,
more
  fossil fuels, more trees and produces more rubbish, more pollution,
more
  greenhouse gases, and adds to the problem of over-population."

  While most parents view their children as the ultimate miracle of
nature,
  Toni seems to see them as a sinister threat to the future.

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=495495&in_page_id=1&in_page_id=1&expand=true

  http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/68190-political-towns-extreme-places-political-relocation.html

  http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.childfree/browse_thread/thread/433390c60614cc23/442c33182294bb85?hl=en
  http://abcnews.go.com/Health/TurningPoints/story?id=3747045&page=1
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Why_breed/
  http://freetownproject.com/
  http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2140483&page=1
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Exodus
  http://christianexodus.org
  http://news.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=1918592007
  http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3401106
  http://www.projectprevention.org



  Overpopulation or Childfree Town Project
  http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/68190-politic
  al-towns-extreme-places-political-relocation.html

  Hi.

  I am writing because I am interested in overpopulation activists in
small
  towns. I am hoping that if overpopulation activists concentrate
forces
  like the Libertarians of the Free Town Project,
  http://freetownproject.com/ we can build a majority that can replace
  public school, playground, ballfield, and childcare funding with
  contraception and abortion funding and end up saving a great deal of
  money especially since Social Security and Medicare funding are
mostly
  federal and can be imported.

  Housing unit size could also be limited to crowd large families but
  regular zoning is a big problem because it makes it expensive for
  overpopulation activists to move in and build a majority.

  Anyway, what do you think? Can such a majority be built in your
hometown.
  NYC is the only municipality I know of that funds abortions and it
is too
  overcrowded and thus difficult and expensive to move to or build a
  majority in. And NYC's abortion funding is still only a tiny
fraction of
  their education funding.

  Three groups likely to be allied in this municipal cause are gays,
  especially conservative gays like Log Cabin Republicans, retirees,
who
  would be hypocrites because they usually have grown children and
  grandchildren but these grandchildren often live in different towns
and
  would be unaffected by local education cuts, and Libertarians who
are
  ideologically committed to small government.

  -A



  --------- Forwarded message ---------
  Subject: My speech to County Commission


   I came accross a shocking statistic. In America, and by
  inference in Buncombe County, 2 out of 3 parents are so
environmentally
  callous that they would turn down even subsidized contraception and
  squeeze out babies anyway; which calls into question the ability of
local
  contraception funding to save the planet from overpopulation.

  But in that case there is something else a county can do and that is
to
  stop susidizing parenthood. It is fundamental that the
responsibility to
  fund schools, childcare, playgrounds and ballfields lies exclusively
with
  parents.

  So how is it fair that I, as a taxpaying nonparent, should be
subsidizing
  such reproductive activities? There is no ethical construct by which
that
  is fair. So since none of you seem to be funding contraception
anyway, I
  might as well vote for those who would defund parenthood, while
  contraception and abortion are so cost effective that funds can be
raised
  privately. And of course that would, and does, switch me to the true
  party of the environment, affordable housing and direct democracy,
the
  Republicans.

  The Republicans help the environment by cutting or attempting to cut
  parental subsidies like playgrounds, childcare, ballfields and
public
  schools, which is effective against overpopulation in a society in
which
  most babies are planned.

  Local Republicans oppose zoning which is bad for affordable housing,
and
  Nathan Ramsey alone proposed a direct democratic referndum on
zoning,
  which makes the Republicans the party of direct democracy.
  -A

  To the Editor:
  Contrary to most political alliances and strategies, LGBTQ people
seem to
  be making the most progress in the profit driven corporate world led
by
  Log Cabin Republicans and HRC. To see why, one need only look at the
  economics of LGBTQ communities like Provincetown MA. According to
the
  2000 census, Provincetown had only 8% children, compared to about
25% for
  the nation and 31% for the generally politically allied city of
Detroit.
  This means LGBTQ communities are fundamentally different from most
other
  minority communities in a way that is massively under appreciated,
  totally politically incorrect, and lies at the very heart of
economic
  conservatism.
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  	You are largely nonparents, with the economic interests of
nonparents.
  And despite all the political rhetoric, what the corporations can
see is
  that so far liberal government subsidies have done far more to
transfer
  wealth from nonparents to parents than to move wealth from rich to
poor
  adults; and when nonparents, like me, form communities and more
  specifically school districts, we are relieved of huge tax burdens
and
  consequently experience economic (and environmental) booms. It may
  behoove nonparents to better understand and acknowledge this huge
and
  inherently conservative factor and perhaps use it to rethink some
  political alliances with minority parents versus those with
corporations.



  See, I told you the ONLY answer was contraception, abortion and gay
  rights. So get on task. The main problem is that the US town with
the
  smallest percentage of children is not in Cascadia. It is the gay
  community of Provincetown MA with 8% children compared to about 25%
  nationally. Does Cascadia have a gay town like Provincetown? I will
be
  voting Republican because they subsidize parenthood less in the form
of
  schools, childcare, TANF, playgrounds, ballfields and family leave.
They
  also reduce the population more by killing more anti-choice people
in the
  middle east. Also, I am in the southeast and here the Republicans
are
  further from the center and therefore more likely to seceed so that
you
  can be rid of them. They are more for state's rights. Also, public
  schools teach national unity, which is the real enemy of secession.
So
  stop subsidizing them.
  -A

  Although I do some energy conservation work on a hands on basis, I
don't
  think much of it as a political issue because direct
environmentalism
  distracts attention and then funding from overpopulation and
  contraception, which is the ONLY way to actually stop global
warming. The
  windmills were for electric generation, but I don't much care. Seven
  billion people just cannot live sustainably and efforts to do so are
  counterproductive and diversionary. Though we could limit yachts to
400hp
  (you lived in FL, those big semi-planers are truly absurd. It's
beyond me
  why the little jet ski's get the complaints.) I'm more interested in
  defunding parenthood including public education. Did you know that
  Provincetown MA is only 8% children? San Francisco is 14%, the USA
about
  25%, Detroit 31.1%, Maywood CA (a hispanic LA suburb) is 37% and
Colorado
  City AZ (polygamist) is 60.4% children. What effect do you think
that has
  on property taxes? especially since old age subsidies are mostly
federal.
  Do you know of any towns with a larger or smaller percentage of
children
  than 8% or 60.4%. If I can find a town outside the Northeast with 8%
  children, I will move there and pay the property taxes. Though
Frisco is
  both too big and too expensive for my tastes. Expensive may be
inevitable
  because low property taxes would cause speculation. My county is
22.2%
  children.
  http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/48/4805000.html
  I'm doing a lot of political and demographic research on localities
in
  the west lately so I can figure out where I want to live. I can find
very
  little reference material on comparitive municipal politics. It's
badly
  neglected. There are many more towns to choose from than viable
political
  parties.

  A libertarian county has already been chosen, Loving County in the
west.
  See,
   http://freetownproject.com/
  http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2140483&page=1
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia
  http://christianexodus.org
  I oppose public education because I am not a parent and wish to stop
  subsidizing parenthood. However subsidized contraception is very
  important and far more cost effective than public education, and
better
  for the environment. Texas secession might tilt the balance enough
to
  make this possible in the rest of the country.
  -A

  Local governments may be doing a bunch of myopic and reactive
  environmental stuff, but they are doing almost nothing to reduce
  fertility rates and are subsidizing parenthood heavily in the form
of
  childcare, playgrounds, ballfields and public schools. Do any two
or
  more members of this group live in the same town? county? state?
  Anyone
  here in Nevada? AZ? NM? eastern OR? west TX?
  -A

  Limiting housing counts does NOTHING for fertility rates and is a
myopic
  digression from overpopulation. So in that sense I am pro-
development. I
  want enough housing units for everyone ESPEICIALLY domestic migrants
who
  may be moving for political purposes. I have no problem with
limiting the
  SIZE of houses in order to crowd large families, but I oppose any
limits
  on unit counts, unit densities, or building height. An
overpopulation
  town funds contraception and abortion INSTEAD OF playgrounds,
ballfields,
  childcare, or schools. It has NOTHING TO DO with land use policies
other
  than banning ballfields.
  -A

  FRANCE'S HIGH BIRTH RATE PARTLY DUE TO GOVERNMENT INCENTIVE

  France Only European Country With Replacement Level Fertility

  France's "robust birth rate," which is "bucking the trend" of
declining
  European birth rates, is "could be attributed to government support
for
  people who have children.

  Birth rates in European countries recently have reached a historic
low,
  with the largest and most recent fall occurring in Eastern Europe.
All
  European countries recorded birth rates of more than 1.3 children
per
  woman.