Robert O. Dean Interview

Our guest is Robert O. Dean who is telling us about NATO's assessment
of the
UFO situation and we're going to get to his plans for a disclosure
conference for high ranking personnel to go public with their
information.
That's 185, as he calls them: Old Boys Network. It's just wonderful to
know
that we still have those kind of citizens in this country.

..Stargate International you note was created to present educational
forums
to the public on ET visitation and contact. Will you tell us about it,
please?

Bob Dean: Yes, Bob, I'll try to give you a little bit of a background
on
Stargate. It was made up by myself, my wife and a few close friends
who
decided that the time had come, literally for the truth to be told and
the
people to be educated about what's really going on in this country. I
agreed
with your statement earlier that the American people literally have
not been
paying attention. They've been allowing their constitutional system to
be
whittled away on them by these damn bureaucrats that were never
elected to
make policy. I think that they need to be educated. We're starting
this
Stargate program literally an educational program to take it into the
schools and the universities and to take it to the grass roots people
and
travel throughout the country and provide them information, factual
information, films, books, videos, photographs, all of it we have, and
tell
them look, you've been asleep, you've been dozing, you're being lied
to by
your government. It's time to wake up and realize what's been going on
here.
We've got the most important issue in the history of the human race
and
you've got to get involved, you've got to pay attention, you've got to
inform yourselves as to what in the world is happening.

Well, that's basically what Stargate is all about. As a result of
that,
Stargate has sponsored a conference or two over the last couple of
years.
We've got another one in the mill we're going to try to present this
coming
October. Initially we were trying to target sometime in June for this
thing,
but we've got so many people who want to attend and so many of the Old
Boys
who want to participate that we're going to probably have to do it in
October rather than June. We're going to have this disclosure
conference
right here in Tucson. We're going to have the stage filled for three
days
with a whole lot of old retirees, men hove been in very important
positions
over the years. I'm hopeful to have a general or two on the podium.
We're
going to do that this fall [Ed. note: postponed due to illness] and
we're
going to try and bluntly tell the American people the time has come to
wake
up, the time has come to participate, pay attention, involve yourself
in
this matter and I figured that if they won't listen to a bunch of old
retirees, I'm talking about Navy, Air Force, Army, Marines. If they
won't
listen to us, my God, who in the world will they listen to?

Your next guest on that program is a friend of mine, a guy by the name
of
C.B. Scott Jones. He's a retired Navy Commander. I'm hoping that maybe
C. B.
will join us, but I know he will be a part of it on the hill when we
get to
open congressional hearings. I know that he will be part of that. He's
been
doing a great deal of work in this area. I commend him for that. When
he
comes on, give him my regards if you will.

That's what Stargate is all about, basically. The other thing that
Stargate
is pushing, not just the conferences and the open hearings but we want
an
open hearing, Bob, on Capitol Hill. We want it either in the House or
the
Senate and we will be happy if it would be a joint effort. We want
open
hearings, no more closed doors. We had too many of them. We want these
guys
to be given congressional immunity for violating their National
Security
Act. Literally, we want the threat of going to prison removed for them
for
simply telling the American people the truth. That troubles me a lot.
That
somebody like myself and I'm teetering on the edge here. I'm
threatened by
this every time I open my big mouth. That you can go to prison for 10
years
and pay a $10,000 fine and lose all of your pay, allowances and
retirement
simply for telling the American people the truth. Well, I think the
time has
come, Bob for the truth to be told and that's what I'm involved with.

Bob Hieronimus: Doesn't it seem strange that most Americans when they
hear
of such laws, first they don't that such laws exist. Doesn't it seem
strange
that if UFOs didn't exist, why in the world would it be necessary to
have
such laws as 146 or 200-2 or any of the others. If UFOs didn't exist,
why
would you need these laws?

Bob Dean: That's part of the absurdity, you see. Why in the world
would you
need laws like that if UFOs weren't real? Well, if anybody were paying
attention, Bob they would immediately know that there must be
something
behind this. Why would you pass a law like that? Well of course UFOs
are
real. Of course alien intelligence is here. We've known that for over
40
years but it's a lot bigger story than that, Bob. It's not simply the
extraterrestrial involvement. It's a whole complete history of the
human
race that's involved here.

Bob Hieronimus: One other thing that I wanted to ask you. You worked
with
FEMA and I think that's obviously going to stand you in good stead in
the
years to come because I don't think our planet is going to be the same
in
the years to come as it is right now.

Bob Dean: I'm afraid you're right.

Bob Hieronimus: So that you know how to prepare yourself to survive,
is that
right?

Bob Dean: We're teaching other people to do the same thing.

Bob Hieronimus: Would you recommend that people learn more and more
about
survival as the years go on here?

Bob Dean: Well Bob, I'm glad you asked that because that's a very
important
issue. Having spent 14 years with FEMA, I'm a great believer in
preparedness. We are in for some very difficult times ahead. There's
no
question about it. Not only geologically, we are in for some rather
blunt
surprises from mother nature herself, I'm afraid. But the sociological
chaos
in the years ahead is going to be pretty tremendous. I simply advise
people
to use a little common sense. I ask them to do what your grandfathers
and
great-grandfathers and mine did years ago and that is simply be
prepared for
a bad day. Stock a few candles. Stock a little bit of kerosene for the
lamps. Have a little extra emergency water on hand. Put a little bit
of
extra food aside. Get some stuff that won't spoil, dried beans and
rice and
a few things like that. I believe this is simply good common sense.
It's
what people are faced with when they have a terrible flood or an
earthquake
or a fire. Your ancestors and mine and most of the Americans who
settled
this country knew these things. They always had a larder, they always
had a
storeroom with a few basics in it. As a professionally trained
Emergency
Management Specialist I would simply ask people to be a little bit
prepared
for these things.

Bob Hieronimus: I can't think of almost anything that's more important
if
you love your family, your children, your friends.

Bob Dean: We have a number of good Mormon people out here in the west.
A lot
of them are my dear friends and they've taken that very same approach.
The
Mormon church teaches plan, be prepared because things are going to be
very
difficult. If you care about your kids, I mean damn it, you want to
put a
little bit on the side so you can help them through some difficult
times.
That's only common sense, Bob.

Bob Hieronimus: You and your wife, Cecilia, have been serving as
honorary
directors of several research expeditions in 1996 through Beyond
Boundaries.
You've already gone to Puerto Rico?

Bob Dean: Oh, yes.

Bob Hieronimus: You know what's going on down there... Could you tell
us
what's going on down there?

Bob Dean: Bob, that's another scandal. I don't know what we can do
about it
unless we can get the people to wake up and pay attention. As you
know,
Puerto Rico is a territory. It doesn't have the same priviledges as a
state.
There's U.S. Federal representation everywhere. There are Army bases,
Air
Force bases, Naval bases all over the island. But there's also
something
else very, very strange going on down there. When I was down there I
visited, was a guest of Jorg� Martin, a young researcher down there in
San
Juan. We visited a beautiful mountain down there just outside of San
Juan
and the place was literally crawling with Wackenhut World Technology
Security people all over the place. Now these people are the same guys
that
guard Groom Lake, Site 51, and every time I turned around, I was
seeing
Wackenhut Security keeping Jorg� and I under the glasses and once or
twice I
even turned and walked toward them and they turned and drove away real
fast.
But there's something weird going on in Puerto Rico and the
government's up
to it's ear bones in it. It involves extraterrestrial involvement. The
American people have a right to know what in the world is going on
down
there. Damn it, the truth has got to be told, Bob. I ramble a bit
about this
matter then I get so angry I'm a bit fractious about it. But the time
has
come to tell the American people the truth. The greatest story in
history is
unfolding and they're totally ignorant about it.

Bob Hieronimus: In your opinion, when will the U.S. Government
disclose the
fact that UFOs exist? Do you think it will be before the year 2000?

Bob Dean: Yes, I think it's probably going to be before the end of
1997. I
think things are going to be happening Bob that are going to force
them to
come forward.

Bob Hieronimus: I wish we had more time. I want to thank you for
joining us
Bob, and I hope you will join my wife, Zoh in the coming months to
update us
on your progress and perhaps in late September, 1996 you'll join us
once
again to promote the disclosure conference because we think that's
extremely
important.

Bob Dean: Thanks for inviting me Bob, and give my regards to C. B.
Scott
Jones.

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