"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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On Jul 24, 2:30 pm, "Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote:
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      There are no UFOs in our Solar System, much less on Earth.

You've been to the entire solar system and all over the Earth, and
looked
everywhere and not found them? I'm impressed. Proving a negative
existential claim is pretty hard, you know? Actually, there ARE
"UFOs",
as in aerial phenomena that one cannot identify. Does that mean they
are alien spaceships? No. It doesn't. It means they cannot be
identified.

Therefore, anyone who thinks they saw one, is delusional.

But seeing one is what you need to do if you want to know it exists.

First off, let me clarify one thing:  Life in the Universe will be proven to 
be the rule, rather than the exception.

It is also a given that there are intelligences and technologies billions of 
years advanced of our own.

I do believe that other intelligences are traveling throughout the Cosmos.

You are correct, there are UFOs everywhere, in the actual sense of the word. 
I should have used Alien Spaceships, instead.

Have Aliens been to Earth ?? Very likely.  They may even be somewhat 
responsible for our own evolution or even seeding the planet 4B years ago, 
for all I know.

But LipFlappers stubborn belief in them reminds me of my wife, who is a born 
again X-tian and swears that God exists, even though nobody has ever seen a 
trace of him, but she can point to hundreds of coincidences that "could" 
indicate divine intervention, but then the odds are against that sort of 
thing.

So, unless someone finds pieces parts of an extraterrestrial vehicle or 
presents a live (or dead) Alien, which can be positively identified as such, 
all the speculation and wishful thinking are just plain, good old bull shit.