Bob Casanova wrote:

On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 06:30:08 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by "Sir Arthur C.B.E.
Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com>:

Bob Casanova wrote:

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:52:03 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by garymatalucci@gmail.com:

On Feb 4, 11:17?am, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:

On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:43:25 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by "Sir Arthur C.B.E.
Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com>:

On Feb 3, 9:30?am, Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off> wrote:

On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 23:52:31 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by "Sir Arthur C.B.E.
Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com>:

OFFICIAL NOTICE: The following Debunkers MUST Leave the Usenet
Immediately!

Gonna hold your breath until you turn blue, Artie?

Dismissed,
Sir Arthur

Run away! Run away!

...OFFICIAL notice...weasel...

Met that watery tart with the sword yet? Now go away before
I taunt you a second time.

...debunkers...your ilk...kooky cult...OFFICIAL notice...debunkers...

Hi, Artie! Forget to post under your handle? Turned blue
yet?

Run away! Run away!

...debunkers...pitiful...worthless...ETs...mind-scan...debunkers...mindscan
...debunker...debunkers...evil...This Island Earth...unholy alliance...Dark Side
...debunker...FEMA...debunker...sympathizers...debunkers...

<snip KookPlug>

Still holding your breath, ArtieGary?

Run away! Run away!

Apparently you FAIL to understand that you have been given an OFFICIAL
notice to LEAVE the USENET.  What part of LEAVE don't you understand?
Okay, one more time Mr. Troll/Debunker - do NOT come back.  Can I make
that any more simpler than that?  And take your cult with you: CUJO,
VD-VAC, Hagar and Borsch.  They are no longer welcome here with us
civilized people.  Crawl on back to your cave, we will smoke it out
later!!

Catch-22...Do They Walk Among Us?  By Tim Hagemeister
<director@nacomm.org> Director-NACOMM Research Corp.//www.nacomm.org
2/14/2000

Over the past 50 years, our government's intelligence agencies have
come to a grim prospect. One with a cosmic paradox in view of the
great scientific advancement of these intelligent beings captured, and
visiting this planet. If their knowledge is as advanced genetically as
technically, could they not clone a real human "dolly"? And given the
right upbringing and training, could these "clones" assimilate into
our society? For the sake of muse, let us imagine that what  Howard M.
McCoy, former Commanding General of T-2 Technical Intelligence at
Wright Field in 1947 and the man who was the final decision maker
about Project SIGN said was plausible:

"There was never a successful military occupation or adventure ever
made recently, or even in the days of Alexander the Great, where prior
to the invasion, or prior to the mass landing there were not agents
sent ahead. This is standard practice. Agents. Now, in Germany we and
the British inserted Americans and we inserted British who looked
liked the Germans and spoke their language. In Japan, we inserted, we
had enough Nissei we inserted them into Japan, but we had agents in
their countries exactly the same as we have agents behind the Iron
Curtain now. The main purpose of these people is to beas exactly like
the natives as possible. The facts of life, the facts of military
logic, the facts of cultural logic and especially since they have not
been hostile, dictate almost dictate the fact that there would be
especially with your remarks that they have seen all these humanoids,
these humanoids are from respectable cases that you believe in, if
they are humanoids, there can be humanoids picked out since the range
of size shape and color on this planet is covers almost the entire
spectrum, that it almost dictates the fact that there would be lets
say agents of the space people, wherever they come from living with us
at the present time and have been here over the last 100 years. This
is standard."

Now combine that idea with what Robert O. Dean said about his
discovery while working for NATO's Supreme Command in the 1960's:

NATO officials were -- understandably -- very disturbed by the fact
that one of the four types of ETs "looked exactly like we do, and I
don't mean close. I mean exactly... The admirals and the generals were
terribly troubled by the idea that these guys [ETs] could be walking
up and down the corridors of our headquarters and we would never
know... that there could be advanced intelligence in our midst and we
didn't know who they were, where they were from, why they were here or
what they were up to. It drove the military planners up the wall."

If we, for a moment, assume that the above statements are true, it
certainly answers many questions as we look back over the past 50
years. Now, our military was not only trying to stave off a threat
from outside, but also from within. Throw in a Cold War and you have a
good combination for paranoia potion. The need for a Black Budget
became a necessity. Not only did they have to hide the weapons from
their enemies, but from their own people. And as the Cold War came to
an end, the Black Budget kept growing.

As we captured more alien craft, the benefit and the paradox grew. We
tried to keep it under wraps in order to confuse a perceived enemy
because whatever you tell your friends, eventually gets told to the
enemy. So it's not as simple as saying, "Hey, we did retrieve an alien
craft in 1947 and 19XX..., and now it's time to tell you because the
cold war is over."

The reasons could be that the war isn't over. We were now fighting a
war from the inside. It wasn't as simple as them against us. It
started to look like us against us. And so the rumors of black
projects gone awry and secret facilities being taken over could be a
reality. And what if they looked just like us? And what if they lived
among us? Would society accept the truth, or would there be anarchy?
This is the danger. This is the paradox. This is the Catch-22!