| Subject: Re: Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skulls- A Movie or Propaganda for an Alien gospel? |
| From: "Noah's Dove" <noahdove7@lightspeed.ca> |
| Date: 16/02/2009, 21:07 |
| Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.ufo.reports,alt.paranet.ufo |
Yes there may be life out there beyond earth or in some other
dimensions. Some say it evolved by chance (evolution) others say God
may of created intelligent life elsewhere as well. In any case it
seems we are told we are not alone.
What is strange is that many of the so called aliens that contact
humans often pass on new age philosophy. They also claim they
created mankind and mankind's religions. I come across this over and
over again in books written by contactees, ufo researchers and
some ufo abductees. Many abductees are not even sure they are
dealing with real aliens but something akin to shapeshifting
interdimensional entiies. This is also the conclusion from many
ufo researchers such as Karla Turner, author of "Masquerade of
Angels" http://www.karlaturner.org/, L.A. Marzulli, author of "The
Alien Interviews" http://www.lamarzulli.net/
Jacques Vallee, author of the book, "Dimensions", and "Messengers of
Deception" , John Keel, author of the book, "Mothman Prophecies"and
"Operation Trojan Horse", or Joe Jordon Mufon director and founder
of CE4 http://www.alienresistance.org/ce4.htm
Many new agers claim they also have received channel information
from so called ET's or ET spirit guides that claim they want to guide
the human race into a new age. Yet, behind the new age utopia
visions are ufo abductees claiming they have
been kidnapped against their will and sexually violated. Then, there
also cattle mutilations and human mutilations associated with ufo
cases. http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0307/mutilate.html
So what is going on? One of my main areas of research is: what may
behind mystical experiences and new age beliefs. I am discovering
that new agers that claim contact with non alien spirit guides are
also receiving the same new age
philosophy and visions of utopian solutions for mankind from their
spirit guides or angels. Well if you research Nazi occult mystical
beliefs you will find similar utopian themes with promises of a new
age as long as you follow Hitler and his inner guides.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/hitler-occult.htm and
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hitler-adolf/oss-papers/text/oss-profile-03-03.html
Here are some quotes from ufo researchers, contactees and abductees
which may shed some light on this subject
"A large part of the available UFO literature is closely linked with
mysticism and the metaphysical. It deals with subjects like mental
telepathy, automatic writing and invisible entities as well as
phenomena like poltergeist [ghost] manifestation and 'possession.'
Many of the UFO reports now being published in the popular press
recount alleged incidents that are strikingly similar to demonic
possession and psychic phenomena."
- Lynn E. Catoe, UFOs and Related Subjects: USGPO, 1969; prepared
under AFOSR Project Order 67-0002 and 68-0003
"Human beings are under the control of a strange force that bends them
in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of
deception."
- Dr. Jacques Vallee, Messengers of Deception, p. 20
"We are dealing with a multidimensional paraphysical phenomenon which
is largely indigenous to planet earth."
- Brad Steiger, [cited in] Blue Book Files Released in Canadian UFO
Report, Vol. 4, No. 4, 1977, p. 20
"We are part of a symbiotic relationship with something which
disguises itself as an extra-terrestrial invasion...
-Terrence McKenna [from a lecture]
"One theory which can no longer be taken very seriously is that UFOs
are interstellar spaceships."
- Arthur C. Clarke, New York Times Book Review, 07/27/75
"There seems to be no evidence yet that any of these craft or beings
originate from outer space."
-Gordon Creighton, Official 1992 Flying Saucer Review Policy Statement
"UFO behaviour is more akin to magic than to physics as we know it...
the modern UFOnauts and the demons of past days are probably
identical."
-Dr. Pierre Guerin, FSR Vol. 25, No. 1, p. 13-14
"The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor
variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon..."
- John A. Keel, UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse, p. 299
"A working knowledge of occult science...is indispensable to UFO
investigation."
-Trevor James, FSR Vol. 8, No. 1, p.10
"Studies of flying saucer cults repeatedly show that they are part of
a larger occult social world."
-Stupple & McNeece, 1979 MUFON UFO Symposium Proceedings, p. 49
"The 'medical examination' to which abductees are said to be
subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is
reminiscient of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes
no sense in a sophisticated or technical framework: any intelligent
being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be
in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in
a shorter time and with fewer risks."
- Dr. Jacques Vallee, Confrontations, p. 13
"The symbolic display seen by the abductees is identical to the type
of initiation ritual or astral voyage that is imbedded in the [occult]
traditions of every culture...the structure of abduction stories is
identical to that of occult initiation rituals...the UFO beings of
today belong to the same class of manifestation as the [occult]
entities that were described in centuries past."
-Dr. Jacques Vallee citing the extensive research of Bertrand Meheust
[Science-Fiction et Soucoupes Volantes (Paris, 1978); Soucoupes
Volantes et Folklore (Paris, 1985)], in Confrontations, p. 146,
159-161
"[The occultist] is brought into intelligent communication with the
spirits of the air, and can receive any knowledge which they possess,
or any false impression they choose to impart...the demons seem
permitted to do various wonders at their request."
- G.H. Pember, Earth's Earliest Ages and Their Connection with Modern
Spiritualism and Theosophy (1876), p. 254
"These entities are clever enough to make Strieber think they care
about him. Yet his torment by them never ceases. Whatever his
relationship to the entities, and he increasingly concludes that their
involvement with him is something 'good,' he also remains terrified of
them and uncertain as to what they are."
- John Ankerberg, The Facts on UFOs and Other Supernatural Phenomena,
p. 21
"I became entirely given over to extreme dread. The fear was so
powerful that it seemed to make my personality completely evaporate...
'Whitley' ceased to exist. What was left was a body and a state of raw
fear so great that it swept about me like a thick, suffocating
curtain, turning paralysis into a condition that seemed close to
death...I died and a wild animal appeared in my place."
- Whitley Strieber, Communion, p. 25-26
"Increasingly I felt as if I were entering a struggle that might even
be more than life and death. It might be a struggle for my soul, my
essence, or whatever part of me might have reference to the eternal.
There are worse things than death, I suspected... so far the word
demon had never been spoken among the scientists and doctors who were
working with me...Alone at night I worried about the legendary cunning
of demons ...At the very least I was going stark, raving mad."
- Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 44-45
"I wondered if I might not be in the grip of demons, if they were not
making me suffer for their own purposes, or simply for their
enjoyment."
- Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 172
"I felt an absolutely indescribable sense of menace. It was hell on
earth to be there [in the presence of the entities], and yet I
couldn't move, couldn't cry out, couldn't get away. I'd lay as still
as death, suffering inner agonies. Whatever was there seemed so
monstrously ugly, so filthy and dark and sinister. Of course they were
demons. They had to be. And they were here and I couldn't get away."
- Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 181
"Why were my visitors so secretive, hiding themselves behind my
consciousness. I could only conclude that they were using me and did
not want me to know why...What if they were dangerous? Then I was
terribly dangerous because I was playing a role in acclimatizing
people to them."
- Whitley Strieber, Transformation, p. 96
On Feb 14, 7:15 am, "Message-ID:
<bf5km41latboe7ief3dajgohhnu2hgr...@4ax.com>" <ea...@is.ending> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:22:09 -0800 (PST), "Noah's Dove"
<noahdo...@lightspeed.ca> wrote:
What is interesting is this site believes like I do that the fallen
angels, described in Genesis 6, are responsible for these, but I ‘m
getting ahead of myself… The site also draws a parallel between the
headdress worn by the Egyptians and the elongated skulls found in
Peru. Is this coincidence?
After cliff hanging car chases, through the fire ant infested jungle,
Jones and crew along with the Russians, who have been in hot pursuit
wind up at the secret location of a long lost Mayan Temple. So what’s
the big deal? The Russians take control of the situation and the skull
is placed on the headless skeleton of one of the thirteen seated
crystal skeletons sitting in a circle. And that’s when the ‘magic’
begins. The skeletons suddenly come together as one compresses against
the other and finally we see… E.T., the extraterrestrial, large and
ominous looking. This takes everyone by surprise, but wait there’s
more. Suddenly the Mayan temple begins to crumble as something begins
to surface from deep below it. Jones and crew stand in awe as a huge
flying saucer, UFO, MOTHER SHIP is revealed. It creates a cyclone
effect, as it begins to take off, swirling trees, boulders, parts of
the temple and anything else that’s not nailed down, around it.
Finally it fly’s off! Jones asks, “Where did it go, outer space?” He
is quickly set straight, as his sagacious mentor explains, “No Indy,
it’s interdimensional.”
There aren't interdimensional. And they're NOT here to lead the Talmudic
jews to the promised land:http://www.rense.com/Datapages/mystmachinedata.htm
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do
that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about
American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the
Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001