Re: Underground base in Dulce: Fact or Fiction? showdown on March 29

On Mar 18, 2:10�am, Bob <r...@armageddon.info> wrote:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:11:22 -0700 (PDT), Norio Hayakawa

<noriohayak...@rocketmail.com> wrote:

|>Skeptical of the claims and rumors himself, Hayakawa is convinced
|>there could be prosaic explanations to both the UFO sightings and
|>cattle mutilations, and looks forward to the conference providing a
|>resolution of the matter. "There has not been any physical evidence
|>whatsoever that there is such a base in or near Dulce," �Hayakawa
|>asserted. "However,� he admitted, �when it comes to UFOs, many of the
|>residents there are believers."
|>
|>The one-day conference, open to the public, will start at 10:00 am and
|>will conclude at 3:00 pm. �Admission is $5 at the door. The conference
|>will include an open public forum during which the public will be
|>given an opportunity to report their experiences and express their
|>opinions.
|>
|>Additional information can be found athttp://www.ufodigest.com/news/0309/dulce-base.php
|>andhttp://www.myspace.com/noriohayakawa.

� � � � Could be, there are a lot of concerns to this place, which may or
did exist.....

� � � � I think we've all seen "http://boblacasse.150m.com/Dulce.rm.html"
....take it for what it's worth.....

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Thanks, Bob, for the input.
I did not mention that my whole take on the Dulce controvery is
included in my Final Release:


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However, he asserts that some of these prosaic explanations, if true,
may be disturbing if revealed to the public.

According to Hayakawa, stories began to circulate in the mid-1970s
when area residents witnessed "strange lights in the sky" and when
ranchers reported mysterious cattle mutilations and frequent sightings
of military helicopters. The rumors intensified in 1980 when Paul
Bennewitz, who was then the president of Thunder Scientific Labs
adjacent to Kirtland Air Force Base, reported his experiences with
what he described as "alien entities".  Bennewitz claimed that these
entities were controlling humans through electromagnetic devices, that
their triangular craft crashed near Dulce, that some strange aerial
objects were regularly flying near Kirtland, the nearby Manzano
Nuclear Weapons Storage Facility and Coyote Canyon Test Area, and that
they were transmitting signals to him from a base under Archuleta
Mesa, adjacent to Dulce.

One of the speakers at the conference will be Greg Bishop, who
thoroughly investigated the Bennewitz claims in his book Project Beta.
There will also be a few other well-known speakers.  �However,�
Hayakawa said, �the principal focus of the conference will be with
local residents, ranchers and law enforcement officers who will
testify about their personal experiences.�

Interest in the conference and the decades-long rumor of a Dulce base
are high. �The UFO Hunters,� a popular History Channel television
show, recently visited Dulce to interview residents and research facts
about the purported Dulce base. �Because of the History Channel
investigation, the townsfolk of Dulce are very much aware of the
conference,� said Hayakawa. �For the first time, some of the residents
may come forward at the conference to speak without fear of ridicule.�

Skeptical of the claims and rumors himself, Hayakawa is convinced
there could be prosaic explanations to both the UFO sightings and
cattle mutilations, and looks forward to the conference providing a
resolution of the matter. "There has not been any physical evidence
whatsoever that there is such a base in or near Dulce,"  Hayakawa
asserted. "However,� he admitted, �I have heard about some disturbing
allegations concerning the Dulce area relevant to serious
environmental as well as health issues."

"One such wild allegation", said Hayakawa, "is the allegation that the
government, beginning in the mid 1970s, may have conducted clandestine
operations in the area involving experiments with bovine diseases,
anthrax and other substances as part of biological warfare
research."   Hayakawa also says he has heard from other sources that
there may also have been some illegal dumping or storage of toxic
chemicals and other bio-hazzardous materials in the nearby areas.

(On a curious side note, Hayakawa stated that when he first visited
Dulce in 1990 with the crew of a Japanese TV Network to help produce a
TV special on Dulce, they were inexplicably detained by the Jicarilla
Apache police chief while they were interviewing the people on the
streets about their sightings of military helicopters, strange lights
in the sky and also about cattle mutilations in the nearby areas.)

"Another allegation that I have heard", continued Hayakawa, is "the
allegation that the there has been a cover-up of occasional radiation
leaks in the region resulting from a 1967 underground nuclear
detonation which took place about 22 miles southwest of Dulce.."   The
name of that government experiment was called Project Gasbuggy, part
of the government's attempt to utilize nuclear energy for peaceful
purposes.  It was part of the Plowshare Program.   Hayakawa said that
it was conducted "ostensibly to ease the flow of natural gas in the
region, but the government knew well in advance that it would produce
high amount of radiation".

"These may have some relevance to an allegation that there has been
relatively high rate of cancer in this region as well as some reports
of problems with fertility among some women in the area as well", said
Hayakawa.

Hayakawa also stated that "if some of these allegations are true",
then he supports a theory "that the government may have purposefully
created some 'convenient' cover stories to conceal those activities
and may even have staged a series of fake 'UFO-type' incidents in the
area, utilizing high tech equipment such as holographic projection
devices."   This type of operations, according to him, has been a part
of the Psychological Operations (PSYOPS) programs utilized by the
military.    "The association of this area with 'UFOs' certainly
creates a laughter curtain and ridicule and would detract attention
away from serious scrutiny of the area."

According to Greg Bishop, Paul Bennewitz may have been a target of a
concerted effort by the government through the AFOSI at Kirtland Air
Force Base and Sandia Labs to brainwash him into believing that there
is an alien base under the Archuleta Mesa.   Greg Bishop suggests that
part of what Bennewitz may have witnessed near the Manzano Storage
Area and Coyote Canyon Test Areas in 1979 could have been the
government's test flights of prototypes of remotely-controlled
platforms (unmanned aerial vehicles) and testing of laser-based
optics, jamming and tracking technology...   "These devices may have
been utilized in timely fashion over Dulce during the height of
government's clandestine operations near Dulce", said Hayakawa.

Whatever the case may be, Hayakawa said that this fascinating one-day
conference, open to the public, will start at 10:00 a.m. and will
conclude at 5 p.m.  Admission is $5 at the door. The conference will
include an open public forum during which the public will be given an
opportunity to report their experiences and express their opinions.

Additional information can be found at http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0309/dulce-base.php

and http://www.myspace.com/noriohayakawa