Re: Thanks for letting me be a UseNet NewsGroups Personality.
Subject: Re: Thanks for letting me be a UseNet NewsGroups Personality.
From: "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com>
Date: 13/04/2009, 07:07
Newsgroups: alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,sci.skeptic

On Apr 12, 8:48 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote innews:0c53fa6f-ad14-40a3-a9fd-0222832078f8@j18g2000prm.googlegroups.com:



On Apr 12, 6:55 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote
innews:b
e795095-4e4b-463d-a970-406296457...@p6g2000pre.googlegroups.com:

On Apr 11, 10:16 pm, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:46:00 -0700 (PDT), garymatalu...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Apr 11, 8:43 pm, Sir Gilligan Horry <G...@ga7rm5er.com> wrote:
Thanks for letting me be a UseNet NewsGroups Personality.

I guess I just try to study everything and try to report to
everyone.

I'm very sorry I mentioned certain names or information
recently that was best left quieter.

I mean, either you know or you don't.
 (In NewsGroups anyway)

I'm not out to hang the wrongdoers.

We all made tiny mistakes in the past.

Imagine the future.

Wow.

It is absolutely going to be amazing.
If we can get this right.

_________________
Disclaimer:
I will probably append to this post sooner or later.

  :)

Well, I cheered myself up.

 LOL

P.S.
I watched "The Girls of the Playboy Mansion" on TV recently.
I never plan to watch it, but just catch it sometimes.
What a laugh.
Good on him
and good on the girls too.
Just magic.

If I had to choose ...
I'd have UseNet NewsGroups everyday.
As good olde Ugly Bob once said ...
"hands down".
That's a funny old saying, aye.

Anyway, today I'm thinking about Mr Lou Gentile.
That dude should have put a nice photo
on his website for the past few years.

http://www.lougentile.com

Lou, message me back.
I will make a nice page for you for free.

Love from New Zealand matey!

Please limit your posts to 1 or 2 a day.  You are NOT clever,
funny and you are even LESS effective than our own National
Security Agency spOOk Harry Borsch in disrupting these
discussions.

Share more of these discussions then.

At least I try.

What you do is post examples as above.

You seem to not find me clever or funny and ...
"even LESS effective than our own National Security Agency spOOk
Harry Borsch". ...

Because you are learning.

This is not mind control.
This is reality.
This is the beautiful Universe.

Please quit fucking around and polluting these groups.  You are a
nuisance, a disruptor and are neither funny or clever.  You would
do well to focus on QUALITY instead of quantity.

Tell your sockpuppets that, dumbfuck.
CUJO, VD-VAC and Sir Gig, I must now officially state that you are now
BANNED from posting on any alien group ever again.  I am sorry it came
to this, but it has.  You are banned for 10 years.  Your rude behavior
has forced the Good People (tm) to place you on the NO POST/WATCH
list.

Good riddance to bad bad bad rubbish!!!

Request DENIED, sockboi.

I hope and pray I don't have to tell you anymore.  You are now BANNED
from these newsgroups, do you understand that.  Plus, if you leave
now, I will notify the General that you cooperated with us and that
you should be given an important assignment at the FEMA camp!   This
is not a joke, at least, not a good joke!!

Because you cooperated, I am sending you this material.  Only you are
allowed to see it, everybody else DO NOT LOOK!

The Dulce Book

Chapter 33

Phil Schneider VS. The New World Order



Underground Bases: A Lecture by Phil Schneider:

Phil Schneider, a very brave man, recently lost his life due to what
appeared to be a military-style execution in January 1996. He was
found dead in his apartment with piano wire still wrapped around his
neck. According to some sources, he had been brutally tortured
repeated before being killed. Phil Schneider was an ex-government
engineer who was involved in building

underground bases. He was one of three people to survive the 1979 fire
fight between the large Greys and U.S. intelligence and military
forces at Dulce underground base. (Actually, one of several
firefights, according to other sources. A man by the name of L.
Anderson of Denver, has informed this writer that the survivors of the
Dulce wars were taken and placed together in groups of three and told
that they were the only survivors of the conflict. Apparently this was
done to maintain more control over these personnel and prevent
potential leaks of information. - Branton)

In May 1995, Phil Schneider did a lecture on what he had discovered.
Seven months later he was tortured and killed by those for whom he had
previously worked. This man's final acts should not go unnoticed.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

"It is because of the horrendous structure of the federal government
that I feel directly imperiled *not* to tell anybody about this
material. How long I will be able to do this is anybody's guess.
However, I would like to mention that this talk is going to be broken
up into four main topics. Each of these topics will have some bearing
on what you people are involved in, whether you are patriots or not.

"I want you to know that these United States are a beautiful place. I
have gone to more than 70 countries, and I cannot remember any country
that has the beauty, as well as the magnificence of its people, like
these United States.

"To give you an overview of basically what I am, I started off and
went through engineering school. Half of my school was in that field,
and I built up a reputation for being a geological engineer, as well
as a structural engineer with both military and aerospace
applications. I have helped build two main bases in the United States
that have some significance as far as what is called the New World
Order. The first base is the one at Dulce, New Mexico. I was involved
in 1979 in a firefight with alien humanoids, and I was one of the
survivors. I'm probably the only talking survivor you will ever hear.
Two other survivors are under close guard. I am the only one left that
knows the detailed files of the entire operation. Sixty-six secret
service agents, FBI, Black Berets and the like, died in that
firefight. I was there.

"Number one, part of what I am going to tell you is going to be very
shocking. Part of what I am going to tell you is probably going to be
very unbelievable, though, instead of putting your glasses on, I'm
going to ask you to put your 'scepticals' on. But please, feel free to
do your own homework. I know the Freedom of Information Act isn't much
to go on, but it's the best we've got. The local law library is a good
place to look for Congressional Records. So, if one continues to do
their homework, then one can be standing vigilant in regard to their
country.

::: Deep Underground Military Bases and the Black Budget :::

"I love the country I am living in, more than I love my life, but I
would not be standing before you now, risking my life, if I did not
believe it was so. The first part of this talk is going to concern
deep underground military bases and the black budget. The Black Budget
is a secretive budget that garners 25% of the gross national product
of the United States. The Black Budget currently consumes $1.25
trillion per [2] years. At least this amount is used in black
programs, like those concerned with deep underground military bases.
Presently, there are 129 deep underground military bases in the United
States.

"They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly,
since the early 1940's. Some of them were built even earlier than
that. These bases are basically large cities underground connected by
high-speed magneto-leviton trains that have speeds up to Mach 2.
Several books have been written about this activity. Al Bielek has my
only copy of one of them. Richard Souder, a Ph.D architect, has risked
his life by talking about this. He worked with a number of government
agencies on deep underground military bases. In around where you live,
in Idaho, there are 11 of them.

"The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are
basically whole cities underground. They all are between 2.66 and 4.25
cubic miles in size. They have laser drilling machines that can drill
a tunnel seven miles long in one day. The Black Projects sidestep the
authority of CONGRESS, which as we know is illegal. Right now, the New
World Order is depending on these bases. If I had known at the time I
was working on them that the NWO was involved, I would not have done
it. I was lied to rather extensively.

::: Development of Military Technology, Implied German Interest in
Hyperspacial Technology, and More :::

"Basically, as far as technology is concerned, for every calendar year
that transpires, military technology increases about 44.5 years
[compared with the increase rate of 'conventional' technology]. This
is why it is easy to understand that back in 1943 they were able to
create, through the use of vacuum tube technology, a ship that could
literally disappear from one place and appear in another place. My
father, Otto Oscar Schneider, fought on both sides of the war. He was
originally a U-boat captain, and was captured and repatriated in the
United States. He was involved with different kinds of concerns, such
as the A-bomb, the H-bomb and the Philadelphia Experiment. He invented
a high-speed camera that took pictures of the first atomic (Hydrogen
or H-Bomb - Branton) tests at Bikini Island on July 12, 1946. I have
original photographs of that test, and the photos also show UFO's
fleeing the bomb site at a high rate of speed. Bikini Island at the
time was infested with them, especially under the water, and the
natives had problems with their animals being mutilated. At that time,
General MacArthur felt that the next war would be with aliens from
other worlds.

"Anyway, my father laid the groundwork with theoreticians about the
Philadelphia experiment, as well as other experiments. What does that
have to do with me? Nothing, other than the fact that he was my
father. I don't agree with what he did on the other side, but I think
he had a lot of guts in coming here. He was hated in Germany. There
was a $1 million reward, payable in gold, to anyone who killed him.
Obviously, they didn't succeed. Anyway, back to our topic -- deep
underground bases.

::: The Fire Fight At Dulce Base :::

"Back in 1954, under the Eisenhower administration, the 'federal'
government decided to circumvent the Constitution of the United States
and form a treaty with alien entities. It was called the 1954 Greada
Treaty, which basically made the agreement that the aliens involved
could take a few cows and test their implanting techniques on a few
human beings, but that they had to give details about the people
involved. Slowly, the aliens altered the bargain until they decided
they wouldn't abide by it at all. Back in 1979, this was the reality,
and the fire-fight at Dulce occurred quite by accident. I was involved
in building an ADDITION to the deep underground military base at
Dulce, which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels
and over 2.5 miles deep. At that particular time, we had drilled four
distinct holes in the desert, and we were going to link them together
and blow out large sections at a time. My job was to go down the holes
and check the rock samples, and recommend the explosive to deal with
the particular rock. As I was headed down there, we found ourselves
amidst a large cavern that was full of outer-space (or "inner-space"?
- Branton) aliens, otherwise known as large Greys. I shot two of them.
At that time, there were 30 people down there. About 40 more came down
after this started, and all of them got killed. We had surprised a
whole underground base of existing aliens. Later, we found out that
they had been living on [in] our planet for a long time... This could
explain a lot of what is behind the theory of ancient astronauts.

(Note: This report seems to reveal a limited 'perspective' on the
overall 'Dulce war' conflicts based on the experience of one
individual. It appears, however, as if there was much more involved in
the overall scenario than what Phil Schneider describes. For instance
from Phil's description, it appears as if his team broke-in to the
base 'accidentally'. It could be that IN RESPONSE to the captured
scientists mentioned by Thomas Edwin Castello and others, the special
forces and intel agents intentionally attempted to break-in to the
underground alien bases through a "back door" so-to-speak, yet
Schneider may have not been aware of this part. Other reports would
suggest that the conflict was more complex than this, and involved
more than one firefight. According to other sources, the "Dulce Wars"
involved AT LEAST a hundred highly-trained special forces. - Branton)

"Anyway, I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was
a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose
of cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that.

"I didn't get really interested in UFO technology until I started work
at Area 51, north of Las Vegas. After about two years recuperating
after the 1979 incident, I went back to work for

Morrison and Knudson, EG&G and other companies. At Area 51, they were
testing all kinds of peculiar spacecraft. How many people here are
familiar with Bob Lazar's story? He was a physicist working at Area 51
trying to decipher the propulsion factor in some of these craft.

::: Schneider's Worries About Government Factions, Railroad Cars and
Shackle Contracts :::

"Now, I am very worried about the activity of the 'federal'
government. They have lied to the public, stonewalled senators, and
have refused to tell the truth in regard to alien matters. I can go on
and on. I can tell you that I am rather disgruntled. Recently, I knew
someone who lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at
Gunderson Steel Fabrication, where they make railroad cars. Now, I
knew this fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a
quiet type. He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me
"they're building prisoner cars." He was nervous. Gunderson, he said,
had a contract with the federal government to build 107,200 full
length railroad cars, each with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11
sub-contractors in this giant project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over
2 billion dollars for the contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel
outfits are involved. He showed me one of the cars in the rail yards
in North Portland. He was right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143
times 11, you come up with about 15,000,000. This is probably the
number of people who disagree with the federal government. No more can
you vote any of these people out of office. Our present structure of
government is 'technocracy', not democracy, and it is a form of
feudalism.

(Note: I would venture to say that it is more like a techno-monarchy,
since several of the U.S. presidents have been placed in office with
Rockefeller financial and media backing, suggesting that these same
presidential hirelings were inclined to favor certain Rockefeller and
in turn International banking agendas. Techno-Monarchy would
constitute those parts of the Military-Industrial Complex or M.I.C.
that are largely influenced by Rockefeller interests. According to
various sources, the German immigrant Rockefellers are not the "top of
the ladder" for the world conspiracy. True, they 'control' much of the
eco-political system in the UNITED STATES of America, however they are
following the agenda of the Bildeberger cult: the 13 Wicca Masons, 13
Black Nobility, and 13 Maltese Jesuits who have joined together UNDER
the covering of the Bavarian Illuminati -- which in turn is the modern
manifestation of the joint human-alien 'serpent cult' which seems to
have had its origins within the ancient underground Masonic systems of
Egypt, a cult or collaboration that was brought to Bavaria by the
early Germanic Trade Guilds during the height of the so-called 'Holy
Roman' [German] Empire - Branton).

It [this 'technocracy'] has nothing to do with the republic of the
United States. These people are god-less, and have legislated out
prayer in public schools. You can get fined up to $100,000 and two
years in prison for praying in school. I believe we can do better. I
also believe that the federal government is running the gambit of
enslaving the people of the United States. I am not a very good
speaker, but I'll keep shooting my mouth off until somebody puts a

bullet in me, because it's worth it to talk to a group like this about
these atrocities.

::: America's Black Program Contractors :::

"There are other problems. I have some interesting 1993 figures. There
are 29 prototype stealth aircraft presently. The budget from the U.S.
Congress five-year plan for these is $245.6 million. You couldn't buy
the spare parts for these black programs for that amount. So, we've
been lied to. The black budget is roughly $1.3 trillion every two
years. A trillion is a thousand billion. A trillion dollars weighs 11
tons. The U.S. Congress never sees the books involved with this
clandestine pot of gold. Contractors of [these] programs: EG&G,
Westinghouse, McDonnell Douglas, Morrison-Knudson, Wackenhut Security
Systems, Boeing Aerospace, Lorimar Aerospace, Aerospacial in France,
Mitsubishi Industries, Rider Trucks, Bechtel, *I.G. Farben*, plus a
host of hundreds more. Is this what we are supposed to be living up to
as freedom-loving people? I don't believe so.

::: Star Wars and Apparent Alien Threat :::

"Still, 68% of the military budget is directly or indirectly affected
by the black budget. Star Wars relies heavily upon stealth weaponry.
By the way, none of the stealth program would have been available if
we had not taken apart crashed alien disks. None of it. Some of you
might ask what the "space shuttle" is "shuttling". Large ingots of
special metals that are milled in space and cannot be produced on the
surface of the earth. They need the near vacuum of outer space to
produce them. We are not even being told anything close to the truth.
I believe our government officials have SOLD us down the drain --
lock, stock and barrel. Up until several weeks ago, I was employed by
the U.S. government with a Ryolite-38 clearance factor -- one of the
highest in the world. I believe the Star Wars program is there solely
to act as a buffer to prevent alien attack -- it has nothing to do
with the "cold war", which was only a ploy to garner money from all
the people -- for what? The whole lie was planned and executed for the
last 75 years.

::: Stealth Aircraft Technology Use by U.S. Agencies and the United
Nations :::

"Here's another piece of information for you folks. The Drug
Enforcement Administration and the ATF rely on stealth tactical
weaponry for as much as 40% of their operations budget. This in 1993,
and the figures have gone up considerably since. The United Nations
used American stealth aircraft for over 28% of its collective
worldwide operations from 1990 to 1992, according to the Center for
Strategic Studies and UN Report 3092.

::: The Guardians of Stealth and Delta Force Origins of the Bosnia
Conflict :::

"The Guardians of Stealth: There are at least three distinct
classifications of police that guard our most well-kept secrets.
Number one, the Military Joint Tactical Force [MJTF], sometimes called
the Delta Force or Black Berets, is a MULTI-NATIONAL tactical force
primarily used to guard the various stealth aircraft worldwide. By the
way, there were 172 stealth aircraft built.

Ten crashed, so there were at last count about 162. Bill Clinton
signed them away about six weeks ago TO THE UNITED NATIONS. There have
been indications that the Delta Force was sent over to Bosnia during
the last days of the Bush administration as a covert sniper force, and
that they started taking pot shots at each side of the controversy, in
order to actually START the Bosnia conflict that would be used by
succeeding administrations for political purposes.

::: Thoughts on the Bombings in the United States :::

"I was hired not too long ago to do a report on the World Trade Center
bombing. I was hired because I know about the 90 some-odd varieties of
chemical explosives. I looked at the pictures taken right after the
blast. The concrete was puddled and melted. The steel and the rebar
was literally extruded up to six feet longer than its original length.
There is only one weapon that can do that -- a small nuclear weapon.
That's a construction-type nuclear device. Obviously, when they say
that it was a nitrate explosive that did the damage, they're lying
100%, folks. The people they have in custody probably didn't do the
crime. As a matter of fact, I have reason to believe that the same
group held in custody did do other crimes, such as killing a Jewish
rabbi in New York. However, I want to further mention that with the
last explosion in Oklahoma City, they are saying that it was a nitrate
or fertilizer bomb that did it.

"First, they came out and said it was a 1,000 pound fertilizer bomb.
Then, it was 1,500. Then 2,000 pounds. Now its 20,000. You CAN'T put
20,000 pounds of fertilizer in a Rider Truck. Now, I've never mixed
explosives, per se. I know the chemical structure and the application
of construction explosives. My reputation was based on it. I helped
hollow out more than 13 deep underground military bases in the United
States. I worked on the MALTA project, in West Germany, in Spain and
in Italy. I can tell you from experience that a nitrate explosion
would not have hardly shattered the windows of the federal building in
Oklahoma City. It would have killed a few people and knocked part of
the facing off the building, but it would never have done that kind of
damage. I believe I have been lied to, and I am not taking it any
longer, so I'm telling you that you've been lied to.

(Allow me to interject at this point five items relating to the
Oklahoma City bombing and/or the role Oklahoma City and FEMA plays in
a possible United Nations - New World Order agenda. - Branton)

#1 - From the WWW-INTERNET Page: THE EYE OF THE EAGLE SPEAKS:

...An evil element of the U.S. government's CIA, known as the
"Committee of Ten," admittedly blew up the Federal Building in
Oklahoma City. The blame was put on Timothy McVeigh [a "throw-away/
patsy" like Lee Harvey Oswald]. The children were murdered to procure
sympathy, money, power, and control over the American people, and the
"Constitution-loving" people known as patriots are BLAMED [proof: see
Internet, also Associated Press Investigation -- Call EDT Short-wave
Channel 12160, satellite Galaxy 6,5-G2 transponder 14]. Two CIA
agents, James Black and Ron Jackson, admit to Boswell they were part
of the "Committee of Ten" who blew up the Oklahoma City Federal
Building on April 29, 1995. They gave sworn affidavits to U.S. Justice
Department officials [out of guilt for the dead children?]. They are
in hiding until the case comes to court.

On the Dan Gregory Radio Talk Show WPBR 1540, Florida, Ted Gunderson,
retired FBI Regional Director -- Mr. Gunderson tells how TWO
explosions occurred, and that the bomb used was called a barometric
bomb, or "daisy cutter." The fertilizer bomb was also a smoke screen.
The ATF Office was the blast target -- and ALL 17 ATF EMPLOYEES DID
NOT SHOW UP FOR WORK that morning. Call CNN News for a transcript of
CNN News correspondent's Gary Tuchman's May 29, 1995, CNN News
interview with Edye Smith, a mother who lost two children. She wanted
to know if government employees had advance warning of the blast
because her two little boys, Chase [3 years] and Colton [2 years], had
none. "We [all the mothers who lost children] are being TOLD to keep
our mouths shut, not talk about it, don't ask those questions."

#2 - "The Phoenix Project" is an Ashtar Collective outlet, although
they do carry 'conventional' conspiracy-related news releases. Before
quoting from "The Phoenix Project" paper I would like to make some
comments on the "Ashtar" alliance which backs this organization and
its intervention in the affairs of planet earth. It is the policy of
the channeled 'Ashtar' sources to expose certain conspiracy-related
information, however in most cases the blame for these conspiracies
are laid on 'Jewish Zionism'. When you understand the conflict between
'Jewish' and the Ashtar-backed 'Bavarian' secret societies you may
further understand this animosity. True, because Zionism is a
political force they do have some connection with the Masonic element
of the 'conspiracy', the B'nai Brith and so on, as do ALL religious
movements who stray into areas of masonic-economic-political
manipulation [which constitutes most of the major denominations by the
way, considering the massive Scottish Rite infiltration of the major
denominational structures] However 'Jewish Masonry' is NOT the
dominant Masonic faction, that place is reserved for the Jesuit's
'Scottish Rite' and the Black Nobility's Rite of the 'Illuminati'. So
then, some elements of 'Jewish Masonry' may be 'cooperating' with the
New World Order agenda, but they are ultimately subservient to the
racist power cults of BAVARIA. This is why the Zionist Rothschilds
were UNABLE TO PREVENT the slaughter of over 6 million Jews in the
Holocaust, because the Jewish Masons were NOT the dominant force. The
Rothschilds' supposed economic collaborators in America, the Germanic-
racist Rockefellers, were pressured into serving and carrying out the
RACIST-EUGENIC policies of their cultic superiors in Bavaria, in order
to be allowed to maintain their economic stranglehold on America.
Following World War II, the Rockefellers recieved a flood of Nazi War
criminals into their fold, giving them refuge and immunity within
their massive corporate network.

The Jewish Masons, such as the Rothschilds, were only a PART of a
THIRD [Wicca Masonic] element of the global power network, competing
with the other two-thirds working within the Black Nobility and the
Maltese Jesuit lodges. That is, until all three agreed to work
together under the 'Bildeberger' organization in order to implement
the NWO and then decide later just who would dominate it. Just why the
Rothschild Wicca-Masons would agree to become a part of the
Bildeberger cult is uncertain. Perhaps they were not fully aware of
the part that the Jesuit-Rockefeller elements played in the Nazi
Holocaust, or the actual extent of the influx of Nazi war criminals
into the Rockefeller empire following the war? A more likely
explanation would be a combination of the following: Some of the
Zionists who collaborated with the Rockefellers were not fully aware
of the racist Anti-Jewish elements involved; some of the 'Jewish
Masons' just didn't care and were in essence willing to sell out their
own kind in exchange for POWER; also the Jesuit's Scottish Rite had
succeeded in Infiltrating Jewish [and York Rite British] Masonry to
the point where its assimilation into the Bavarian-controlled NWO
Bildeberger cult would be ensured.

In fact there is some reason to believe that the Bavarians [and
aliens?] were using the Wicca Masons, Black Nobility and Maltese
Jesuit as HIGH-LEVEL Machievellian 'arms' to create political,
economic and religious conflict in the world. In other words the lower
levels of these three formerly 'competitive' global power cults would
be individuals who were devoted to the idea that THEIR respective lodge
[s] should be in control of the New World Order and were therefore to
engage in fraternal warfare with the 'others', the Jesuits against the
Masons and vice versa for example. On an other-planetary level it
could be the Sirian-backed Masons vs the Rigelian backed Jesuits. The
Sirian humanoids and the Rigelian reptiloids, being formerly at odds,
were now being brought together by the Aldebaran-backed Ashtarian
collectivists and their 'New Galactic Order' agenda. Planet earth is
NOT the only place where 'Machievellian/Hegalian' political agendas
have been carried out. On earth the Aldebaran collective in turn backs
their 'Bavarian Black Nobility' allies and repeats the same thesis-
antithesis-synthesis scenario on earth between the Masons and Jesuits,
eventually merging them into a power structure that is ultimately
controlled [on earth] by the Bavarian black gnostic 'serpent' cult
from it's secret hideaways below Gizeh, Egypt; Pine Gap, Australia;
Dulce, New Mexico, etc. This power-center would in turn have placed
its agents within the Jesuit, Nobility and Masonic 'arms' in order to
manipulate these three power-groups towards their own ends. For
instance, even though lower-level initiates of these three lodges
would favor their own lodge over the others, the CONTROLLING ELITE of
all three elements would never-the-less be agents of the Bavarian
'Babylonian Serpent Cult' itself. Certain members of the Black
Nobility families would sell out to the cult and turn these families
in whatever direction the cult dictated; high-ranking Scottish Rite
members of the Wicca Mason faction would likewise be serving the
Bavarian agenda via the Illuminati; and the high-ranking Jesuits
themselves would in turn be serving the Bavarian elite, since Germany
was after all the headquarters of the [Un]Holy Roman Empire and NOT
Rome, which capitulated its center-of-power over to Germany following
the decline of the earlier Roman Empire.

This is one 'perspective' from which this can all be viewed, although
it is certainly not the only perspective.

According to contactee Israel Norkin however, the Ashtar or Astarte
alien collective -- which has a large following in Aldebaran and other
systems and which played an integral part in the ancient Sirian-Orion
conflict over ancient Egypt -- is a subterran/exterran alliance, a
virtual 'collective group mind', that has since been infiltrated by
the 'Unholy Six' Empires of Orion. If this is true, then this does not
necessarily mean that ALL of the members of the 'Ashtar collective'
are working for UH6, especially when more recent contactee accounts
have stated that a civil war has been taking place in Sirius. This
'war' has apparently been waged because the 'infiltrated' faction of
the collective that has been infiltrated and commandeered by the
Orionite forces, has in turn broken free from the remaining segment of
the collective. This remaining segment has since established close
ties with Pleiadean non-interventionists. Actually, IF they hold true
to the non-interventionist policies, one would think that this
remaining element of the 'alliance' would give up the collectist
agenda altogether, and adopt the sovereigntist philosophy which
teaches the respect for personal sovereignty from a planetary down to
an individual level. Since a collective, hive or group mind tends to
KILL human individuality and sovereignty, such an existence would seem
to be ever at odds with non-interventionism.

Just as non-interventionists believe in planetary sovereignty, which
is a more 'cosmic' manifestation of the same principles which appear
in the American 'Bill of Rights' in respect to personal sovereignty,
we must realize that just as with America, the non-interventionists
have not "arrived" at the perfect fulfillment of their philosophy any
more than the 'American dream' has become a full reality. Since this
universe is imperfect and subject to human agency, it is a continuous
struggle to FIGHT to defend liberty, freedom and sovereignty whether
on an inter-planetary or an inter personal level. So even though we
must continue to fight and struggle to maintain planetary, national or
personal sovereignty in a universe where it is continually being
threatened by parasitical-interventionist-imperialistic forces, the
non-interventionist charters of the 'Federation' and the
Constitutional charters of 'America' are nevertheless GOALS for us to
work towards.

With this foundation laid then, the following are excerpts from
CONTACT: THE PHOENIX PROJECT, June 20, 1995:

"I happened to mention that I had heard, very early after the Oklahoma
City bombing, some mention of there being an 18-story underground
associated with that building, including five floors of underground
parking garage space. This tantalizing bit of news came about because
some network TV interviewer was discussing the bomb pattern with, I
think, the building's original designer or architect.

"But I never heard it mentioned again, in all the days of further
reporting, as the enormous magnitude of that tragedy continued to
unfold, amidst spin doctoring of the most dazzling intensity (that is,
anti-militia and anti-patriot 'spin-doctoring'. - Branton)

"As happens in such cases of instant news sanitation, one begins to
question if one EVER REALLY heard what one was SURE of just a week or
so earlier. After all, you would think such information couldn't
easily be hidden so well.

"So, in that 5/30/95 Front Page editorial I asked if anyone else out
there had heard about this interesting and apparently 'neglected'
feature of the Oklahoma City federal building. After all, longtime
CONTACT readers are well aware of all the diabolical, tunnel-
interconnected, secret underground facilities around the country.
Thus, even the mere possibility of a major UNDERGROUND aspect to the
structure beings a whole new provocative array of dimensions into this
already bizarre picture called the 'official' Oklahoma City blast
story. For instance, the 'rumors' about serious Fed-incriminating Waco
evidence being stored at that Oklahoma City site take on new life if
an underground connection is genuine (for instance, there were reports
that some agents IGNORED wounded children and employees among the
ruins and went instead straight into the rubble to 'rescue' the boxes
of secret implicating documents deeper within the building. Or did
they remove these documents only to be destroyed at a later time, so
that 'they' could claim that all of this 'evidence' had been destroyed
in the blast? - Branton).

"On 6/7/95 we recieved an interesting, excited telephone call at the
CONTACT offices from someone who had read my editorial and could
confirm having heard EARLY news reports which were not only similar to
what I had heard, but made what I heard sound like last week's used
coffee grounds. Rick Martin took the call and, after hearing the news,
asked this person to take a deep, calming breath and then put their
thoughts down on paper.

"Let me quote from that letter, recieved at the CONTACT offices on
6/15/95. This is from E.B.W., writing from the Pacific Northwest State
of Washington.

"[QUOTING] I watched the Oklahoma bombing RIGHT AFTER it happened. I
had the TV on and all of a sudden it switched to this scene where a
bombing had just taken place. At first, I did not pay much attention;
I was busy doing something else. I would listen in every once in a
while. The anchorwoman, or reporter, from the local TV station, was
running around, babbling excitedly. At least once, that I remember,
all people were asked to leave the scene and it showed everybody
running like mad. They HAD FOUND ADDITIONAL BOMBS, or bomb, and the
detonation squad was called in to defuse it.

"During all this commotion, running and reporting, the lady reporter
kept talking about the UNDERGROUND TUNNELS, which had been blown open.
She kept referring to the HUGE UNDERGROUND TUNNELS and there may be
people trapped in there. I heard her refer to the UNDERGROUND TUNNELS
at least about 6 to 7 times during the period I watched. I'm not quite
sure how long that was. Maybe 1 to 2 hours.

"A lady friend of mine called me and wanted to know if I had seen the
FIREMAN ON THE SCENE, who went in front of the camera, totally
freaked, wide-eyed and scared, who talked about HUGE UNDERGROUND
TUNNELS, where ENORMOUS SUPPLIES OF ARMS WERE STORED. He said he saw
MISSILES, TANKS, ETC., ETC. I don't remember what else he saw. But HE
WAS TOTALLY FREAKED OUT. He looked like he had seen a ghost. Hope this
helps.

P.S. Please don't use my name. I will try to get my friend to write
down what she knows.[END OF QUOTING]"

An 18-level underground base? CIA involvement? A huge military
arsenal? Unless I'm mistaken, could this be ONE of the NEW WORLD ORDER
underground bases mentioned by Phil Schneider? If so, then if or when
an attempted UNITED NATIONS crack-down on American Patriots, AND/OR a
possible European NEW WORLD ORDER invasion of American soil occurs...
could such an invasion come not only from the air, ground and sea, but
from BELOW as well? Take note that Oklahoma City is supposed to be one
of the 'biggie' NWO transfer points when things get rolling, or so the
'Commu-Nazi's' running the New World Order plot hope. There are some
who believe that the U.N. - N.W.O. forces are attempting to
precipitate internal civil crisis' in America as a pretext to bringing
in multi-national U.N. "peace-keeping" forces to restore "order", that
is, the "New World" type of "Order". If there is too much resistance,
then a possible U.N.-backed invasion by U.N. member countries -- many
of whom despise America anyway thanks to the likes of the CIA -- will
be initiated to help these "peace-keepers". I recently read a news-
story where the entire Iranian parliament collectively shouted "Death
to America", and from what I've heard that wasn't the first time
another countries' leadership declared their hatred for the USA and
their desire to see it [and Israel] destroyed... and we can include
several Communist dictators as well. The Iranian reaction may have
been partly due to the CIA's intervention in their affairs, however I
think the main reason is that the USA is one of Israel's strongest
allies. I would suggest that we remember that Israel is the oldest
continuous culture on earth -- predating the Chinese culture by 500
years; it is one of the smallest cultures whereas numbers are
concerned; has fought more enemies who have sought its destruction
than possibly any other nation on earth; and has against ALL possible
odds survived to this day as a single people. I would suggest that we
DO NOT cease from an alliance with the Jews. Whether one considers
Israel as having 'God' or 'good-fortune' on their side, history
nevertheless has shown that those cultures that have opposed Israel
have a strange ] way of disappearing from the face of the earth.

As for a possible New World Order takeover, some skeptics -- in spite
of the lessons that should have been learned from World War II --
claim that conditions could never reach such a point. However what if
the following report has any truth to it?

#3 - Keep in mind that the following incident ties-together the UNITED
NATIONS - NEW WORLD ORDER scenario [which is obviously intent on
destroying the American Independence movement which is the last MAJOR
obstacle to World Government], the OKLAHOMA CITY AREA, and multi-
national U.N.-backed military forces now training on American soil.
The following information comes from a source which has investigated
actual UNITED NATIONS preparations, IN THE UNITED STATES, to deal with
any resistance to a 'New World Order' dictatorship.

Take note that FEMA is a major New World Order front with SEVERAL
extensive operational underground bases which, like underground Trojan
horses, exist beneath strategic locations throughout the United
States:

"'FINCEN' CONFIRMED PRE-DEPLOYMENT LOCATIONS: south and east-central
California; west-central Montana; north Texas; west-central Wisconsin;
north-east Illinois; south-east Michigan; central Indiana; south-west
Ohio; north New York; south Delaware; south Maryland; north-east
Virginia. north-east North Carolina; central,south Florida.

"ALL FINCEN EQUIPMENT IS BLACK, FINCIN UNIFORMS, HELICOPTERS, ETC.
FINCEN ARE FOREIGN MILITARY AND SECRET POLICE BROUGHT INTO THE UNITED
STATES FOR DEPLOYMENT AGAINST THE U.S. CITIZENS. MOST IDENTIFIED
FINCEN UNITS ARE AT COMPANY STRENGTH (160+). SOME ARE AS LARGE AS
BRIGADE STRENGTH (2600+)

"FINCEN'S MISSION IS:

"A) House to house search and seizure of property and arms.

"B) Separation and categorization of men, women and children as
prisoners in large numbers.

"C) Transfer to detention facilities of aforementioned prisoners.

"CONFIRMED MJTF [Multi-Jurisdictional Task Force] POLICE LOCATIONS:
north-west Washington; central,south California; south-west,south-
east,north Wyoming; north,north-west,south-west Nebraska; north Texas;
south-east Missouri; west-central,south-east Wisconsin; north-east
Illinois; central,south-east Michigan; central Indiana; north-central
Kentucky; south,south-west Ohio; north,south-east New York; south-
central North Carolina; west-central Georgia; south-east Florida;
central(?) Alaska.

"'THE MJTF IS THE VELVET GLOVE ON THE IRON FIST' -- MOTTO ON THE COVER
PAGE OF THE MJTF GUIDELINES AND AUTHORIZING LEGISLATION.

"The MJTF Police is made up of:

"1) MILITARY - Converts those National Guard Units that are not banned
by the president, into a National Police Force.

"2) Converts all surviving local and state police to national police.

"3) Converts street gangs into law enforcement units for house to
house searches [L.A., Chicago, and New York are in the process now]

"MJTF POLICE MISSION:

"1) House to house search and seizure of property and firearms.

"2) Separation and categorization of men, women and children as
prisoners in large numbers.

"3) Transfer to and the operation of detention camps in the U.S. [43+
Camps]

"UNITED NATIONS COMBAT GROUPS CONFIRMED LOCATIONS: east-central,south
California; north-west,west,south-west Montana; south Arizona; north
Texas; east Michigan; north,south-east New York; north New Jersey;
north-west,north-central,north-east North Carolina; west-central
Georgia.

"UNITED NATIONS BATTLE GROUPS ENTRANCE TO UNITED STATES PASSED UNDER
PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDERS SIGNED 11 NOVEMBER 1990 (Note: There are
those who are convinced that WITH the Assassination of President John
F. Kennedy a 'coup d'etat' took place within the Executive branch of
American government via Internationalist groups who are determined to
destroy the U.S. Constitution, and that the 'presidents' who were
manipulated into office since that time -- mostly C.F.R., T.L.C. and
BILDEBERGER members -- have signed numerous un-constitutional
'executive orders' designed to pave the way for world dictatorship. If
this is the case, then Americans have the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to
resist this FOREIGN U.N. - N.W.O. government, a right which is also
laid down in the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. As for the Kennedy
assassination itself, and those behind it, Louisiana District Attorney
James Garrison in an interview with Playboy magazine made the
following statement in regards to Lee Harvey Oswald: "...Our office
has positively identified a number of his associates as neo-Nazis.
Oswald would have been more at home with Mein Kampf than Das Kapital."
- Branton)

"DETENTION FACILITIES AUTHORIZED THROUGH FEMA AND AUGMENTED BY DOD
BUDGET AMENDMENT PASSED WITH 1991 FISCAL BUDGET:

"north,south-west,south-east Wyoming; north-west,north-east,south
Nebraska;north,central(?) Texas; central Wisconsin; central,south-
west,south,south-east Michigan; north-east,west-central,south Indiana;
north-west,north-east,central,south Ohio; west,north,east New York.

"A) Each site can detain between 32,000 to 44,000 people min.

"B) It is indicated that the Texas and Alaskan sites may be much
larger and more heavily armed.

"C) For the areas west of the Mississippi, OKLAHOMA CITY is the
central processing point for detainees and can handle up to 100,000
people at a time.

"D) The Eastern processing center is not yet identified at this time.

"DETENTION FACILITIES -- 23 FEMA Authorized and stationed; 20 DOD
[Department of Defense] Budget authorized and stationed -- 43 TOTAL.

Note: In Red China an untold number of people are suffering in
Communist 'Laogai' camps as slave laborers; in Soviet Russia it was
the 'Gulag' camps. In Nazi Germany the 'Concentration' camps were not
only used as slave camps, but also as extermination camps to carry out
the genocidel plans of American Corporate and European Militant
'Nazis'. The enemy of SOVEREIGNTISM is COLLECTISM, which is also known
as "Socialism". Socialism comes in many forms: Global Socialism
[Communism]; National Socialism [Fascism]; and Corporate Socialism
[Technocracy]. All three movements are ultimately controlled by the
same Luciferian cults of Bavaria who backed Vladimir Lenin, Adolph
Hitler, and John D. Rockefeller, and who are descended from the very
same cults which ruled the [Un]Holy Roman Empire during the Dark Ages
[see Revelation chapter 17]. I have only one thing to say concerning
these plans for confinement camps here in America, and I'm sure that
most of our Jewish-American citizens who share this country with us --
ALL of us whose ancestors came from all parts of the world and from
all different cultures in order to be free from tyranny -- will agree
with me whole-heartedly when I share their battle-cry: "NEVER
AGAIN!!!"

#4 - The following is from the Patriot Archives ftp site at:
ftp://tezcat.com/patriot

If you have any other files you'd like to contribute, e-mail them to
alex@spiral.org.

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The Federal Emergency Management Agency

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Although an excellent article, the January 1995 edition of 'Monitoring
Times' magazine published only a tiny portion of what FEMA has been
tasked by Executive Order to perform. FEMA was brought into existence
by E.O. [That is, by Presidents like those who replaced or came after
JFK!!! -- many of whose campaigns were financed by the Rockefellers
and promoted by Rockefeller-backed media agencies -- Presidents who
have the power to appoint their own unelected staff, create Executive
Orders at a whim, and establish secret military-industrial-
intelligence agencies that are NOT subject to Congressional
oversight!]

All the frequencies I have for FEMA follow my comments here:

Federal Emergency Management Agency [F.E.M.A.] [and other emergency
agencies]:

F.E.M.A. [Federal Emergency Management Agency] has been 'authorized'
for the past 15 years by Presidential Executive Orders to confiscate
ALL PROPERTY from the American People, separate families in the
current 43 internment camps [already built and operational by the way,
5 of which are located in Georgia. The largest can confine somewhere
on the order of 100,000 American citizens], called relocation camps by
the 'government', for assignment to work camps; declares martial law
and TOTALLY OVER-RIDES the U.S. Constitution. Presidential Executive
Orders that are related or control this are given at the end of this.
Two of the state prisons here in Georgia are currently empty, although
manned by a minimal number of staff, have been setup and intentionally
unpopulated by prisoners just to support this political policy.

Concentration [internment] Camps. An Executive Order signed by then
President BUSH in 1989 authorized the Federal Emergency Management
Agency [F.E.M.A.] to build 43 primary camps [having a capacity of
35,000 to 45,000 prisoners EACH] and also authorized hundreds of
secondary facilities. It is interesting to note that several of these
facilities can accommodate 100,000 prisoners. These facilities have
been completed and many are already manned but as yet contain no
prisoners. [Remember all the TALK of over-crowded prisons that
exist...]. In south Georgia there are several state prisons that
except for a few guards, are completely devoid of prisoners.

Under F.E.M.A., the Executive Orders which are already written and is
the current law of the land, calls for the COMPLETE suspension of the
United States Constitution, all rights and liberties, as they are
currently known. The following executive orders, which are in the
Federal Register located in Washington DC for anyone to request copies
of, call for the suspension of all civil rights and liberties and for
extraordinary measures to be taken in, as most of the orders state,
"any national security emergency situation that might confront the
government." When F.E.M.A. is implemented, the following executive
orders will be immediately enforced:

E.O. 12148 - FEMA national security emergency, such as: national
disaster, social unrest, insurrection, OR national financial crisis.

E.O. 10995 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL communications media
in the United States."

E.O. 10997 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL electric power,
petroleum, gas, fuels and minerals, both public and private."

E.O. 10998 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL food supplies and
resources, public and private, and ALL farms, lands, and equipment."

E.O. 10999 - "... provides for the seizure of ALL means of
transportation, including PERSONAL cars, trucks or vehicles of any
kind and TOTAL CONTROL over all highways, seaports, and waterways."

E.O. 11000 - "... provides for the SEIZURE OF ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE for
work forces under federal supervision, including SPLITTING UP OF
FAMILIES if the government has to."

E.O. 11001 - "... provides for government seizure of ALL health,
education and welfare functions."

E.O. 11002 - "... designates the postmaster general to operate a
national REGISTRATION of all persons." [Under this order, you would
report to your local post office to be separated and assigned to a new
area. Here is where families would be separated].

E.O. 11003 - "... provides for the government to take over ALL
airports and aircraft, commercial, public and PRIVATE."

E.O. 11004 - "... provides for the Housing and Finance Authority to
relocate communities, designate areas to be abandoned and establish
new locations for populations."

E.O. 11005 - "... provides for the government to TAKE OVER railroads,
inland waterways, and public storage facilities."

E.O. 11051 - "... the office of Emergency Planning [has] complete
authorization to put the above orders into effect in time of increased
international tension or economic or financial crisis."

(What about an 'engineered' financial crisis, which in turn would most
likely lead to 'social unrest'? This all depends on the decision of
the current President. But then we must ask, just how legal is the
U.S. Presidency anyway? MANY within the Continental Congress, fearing
the rise of Monarchy, had originally opposed the establishment of a
Chief Executive position such as the one that General George
Washington was elected to. They were assured however that those who
followed Washington would have his example of integrity to base their
own presidencies on. I have a suggestion: do away with the U.S.
Presidency and the entire Executive Branch of government altogether --
especially now that it is, according to many sources, under the
control of unelected Military-Industrialists since the coup of 1963 --
and give back control of the government to the CONGRESS as it was in
the beginning. Congress by majority vote CAN do away with the
Executive position if they choose to do so - Branton)

All of the above executive orders were combined by President NIXON (I
rest my case - Branton) into Executive Order 11490, which allows all
of this to take place if a national emergency is declared by the
President. The burning and insurrection in Los Angeles in the case of
Rodney King could have executed [and partially did execute] these
Executive Orders.

Executive Order 12919: "National Defense Industrial Resources
Preparedness" signed by CLINTON June 3, 1994, delegates authorities,
responsibilities and allocations of F.E.M.A.'s Executive Orders [last
entry] for the confiscation of ALL PROPERTY from the American people,
and their re-location and assignment to 'labor' camps. The Executive
Order also supersedes or revokes eleven (11) previous Executive Orders
[from 1939 through 1991] and amends Executive Order 10789 and 11790.
This executive order is A DECLARATION OF WAR AGAINST THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE by the [Secret] Government of the United States in concert with
the UNITED NATIONS.

Operation Dragnet. Janet Reno can implement this operation upon
receiving one call from the President. Arrest warrants will be issued
via computer to round-up over 1 MILLION PATRIOTIC AMERICANS who may
'resist' the NEW WORLD ORDER. Americans who are not 'politically
correct.' Specifically mentioned are CHRISTIANS or those who read the
Bible. Concentration/internment camps have already been built to
accommodate these American prisoners. See above paragraph as these
internment camps have been setup and are run by F.E.M.A.

(Note: In reference to Christians, just where should they/we stand in
regards to defending America? Should Christians take up arms if
necessary? Apparently the Founding fathers of the American Republic
believed so, so long as it was in order to DEFEND their country, their
women and children... and NOT in order to engage in offensive warfare
for the sake of conquering and exploiting others, which to me would be
"living by the sword" or you could say "making a living" by the sword.
This could be exemplified by the Germans who initiated unprovoked
invasions of their neighbors to meet their economic needs during World
Wars I and II. One might ask, what about all the Orthodox Jews and
Greek Orthodox Christians who went to their deaths like lambs to the
slaughter without resisting during World War II? Why didn't they fight
more zealously to defend themselves? That is a hard question and one
that I don't have an answer for. All I can say is that from my study
of the Old and New Testaments, I find no passage that forbids us from
defending ourselves from aggressors -- at least in a national sense,
however we ARE forbidden to become aggressors ourselves or engage in
conflicts which are offensive rather than defensive oriented. The
offensive attacks against the native Americans for instance, resulting
from the Anglo invasion of North America, can NOT be justified through
scripture, and such policies and mistreatment of the native Americans,
the continuous betrayal of treaties, and the stealing of their God-
given land in the past have or will doubtless have an adverse affect
on America's destiny UNLESS reparations are made to the native peoples
-- for instance a restoration of historical territories. Perhaps the
Greys felt justified in repeatedly violating our government's secret
'treaties' with them because 'we' had done the exact same thing to the
native Americans? Perhaps we DESERVED the abuses that the Greys and
their Bavarian collaborators have inflicted upon us? Perhaps our
nation's destiny will be largely determined by how we treat the native
Americans from here on out, whether or not we begin to honor ALL of
the treaties that 'we' had made and broken in the past? Could it be?
On the other hand, if OFFENSIVE warfare is forbidden by God, then
DEFENSIVE warfare against a foreign invasion of American soil or an
internal threat to our freedoms as they are guaranteed in the Bill of
Rights WOULD from my perspective be justified. In Psalm 125:3 we read
how the rule of the wicked is a DIRECT VIOLATION of the will of God:
"...For the wicked shall not rule the godly, lest the godly be forced
to do wrong." A perfect example would be the Lutherans of Germany who
all-too-often capitulated to the Nazi's and their 'state church', in
spite of the fact that most of the Nazi leaders were themselves backed
by Luciferian cults which the Christians should have resisted.
Instead, many of these backslidden Christians in Germany grudgingly
supported the atrocities of their Nazi leaders, and by default the
extermination by the millions of Jewish men, women and children. Why
could Martin Luther himself stand alone against hundreds of pompish
religious hypocrites at the council of worms in Germany and boldly
accuse them of pharasitical blasphemy and idolatry to their face, yet
many of his Protestant followers -- not detracting from those few
brave souls who DID resist -- gave-in right and left to the Nazi
satanists, and in some cases even contributed to the atrocities of
World Wars I and II? In short then, Christianity does not teach that
one SHOULD take up the sword, and it does not teach that one SHOULD
NOT take up the sword in a defensive capacity. It all depends on one's
own personal choice and faith. There is a warning however that those
who do take up the sword should consider the possibility that they
might die in battle. Then again one might die by NOT taking up the
sword if they are captured and placed in death camp. It all comes down
to ones personal choice, based on the prevailing circumstances. It is
written that the "meek shall inherit the earth". This does not mean
the "weak", since the actual meaning of "meek" is literally "a
stallion in restraint" or someone who shows self-control over their
passions. Logically those who run out onto the battlefield "to die for
their country" in a blaze of suicidal zeal and vainglory will probably
do just that. Those on the other hand who are cautious and wise and
fight with the motive of "defending their family" will not be so
careless with their lives, since they are the provider of their family
as well as its defender. If they are dead then they can no longer
provide nor defend. - Branton)

Operation Rolling Thunder. Reno and Benson have mentioned this
operation which comprises county-wide sweeps of house to house,
dynamic entry, search and seizures for all guns and food stockpiles by
B.A.T.F., state national guard, activity duty soldiers, as well as
local police. This function is also run and coordinated through
F.E.M.A.

Public Law 100-690 banned almost ALL RELIGIOUS GATHERINGS [not yet
enforced..]. (Note: When and if this is enforced, this will be a
blatant defecation upon the BILL OF RIGHTS, and in this event every
true American is allowed -- and in fact it will be his and her
Patriotic DUTY -- to implement the clause within the DECLARATION OF
INDEPENDENCE to OVERTHROW such an alien, foreign or domestic tyranny-
structure which has infested the governing body of America. -
Branton); grants no-knock search and seizures without a search
warrant; expands the drug laws to include EVERY American. This will
generally be the prelude, or in addition to, a F.E.M.A. operation and
contingency plan implementation.

The Omnibus Crime Bill of 1990. Ensures confiscation of all private
property via money laundering, environmental violations of the Clean
Water and Air Act, and extends as far as child abuse. This act also
coordinates activities through F.E.M.A. and the Department of the
Army, Commanding General, U.S. Forces Command, Fort McPherson, GA
which is the executive and implementing agency upon initiation of many
of these acts. The responsible agency within U.S. Army Forces Command
was what used to be known as the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations,
Plans Division [DCSOPS, Plans], which was changed several years ago to
J-3 after the Headquarters became a joint headquarters. They keep on
file copies of all F.E.M.A. Emergency Management Operation Plans,
including those plans developed by the Army to support the F.E.M.A.
plan to eliminate the U.S. Constitution upon implementation. According
to current plans, the Constitution will be 'temporarily' discontinued
and shelved until the real or perceived and declared 'threat' has been
neutralized (ask yourself -- who or what is the REAL threat that needs
to be 'neutralized'? - Branton). But once 'shelved,' as with almost
every other action of the Government, it STAYS shelved.

The Crime Bill of 1994. Banning of all military weapons which are
necessary to the formation of a militia [when needed], denies other
military equipment to the people's militia units (that's OK... the
average American gun owner can legally acquire this 'equipment' from
off the DEAD BODIES of FEMA-backed or related domestic/foreign gestapo
forces when they break-in-to our homes to steal our personal property
or try to take us and our families prisoner without due process of
law. - Branton), prelude to confiscating ALL guns in the hands of
private citizens, DESTROYS the 1st Amendment, and makes virtually
every American an outlaw. See above comments concerning the house-to-
house search. The agency responsible for the actual implementation and
search is the Department of the Army in concert with local and state
police, including F.E.M.A., FBI, BATF, and other Federal Agencies.

SECRET UNDERGROUND BASES. There have been documented over 60 secret,
VIRTUAL CITIES, UNDERGROUND, built by the government, Federal Reserve
Bank Owners (such as the 'Rockefellers', etc. - Branton), and high
ranking members of the Committee of 300 [some of these underground
areas can be seen in Kansas City, Missouri and Kansas City, Kansas].
In additional, there exist underground Satellite Tracking Facilities
which have the ability to punch your 911 address into the computer and
a satellite can within seconds bring a camera to bear on your property
to the point that those monitoring can read a license number on an
automobile in your driveway. These facilities have as of Oct. 1, 1994,
been turned over to the [foreign power of the] UNITED NATIONS. (Note:
Forget the license plate, according to Norio Hayakawa, this satellite
technology is now so sophisticated that they can CLEARLY read every
word on your driver's LICENSE, supposing it were in view of the
satellite. - Branton)

#5 - HAS IT ALREADY BEGUN? U.S. MILITARY OFFICERS -- SHACKLED BY U.N.
FORCES

A report from SEVENTH WEEK MAGAZINE states that U.S. Military Officers
were observed gagged, cuffed, and shackled to their seats aboard a
white U.N. 747 en-route to the Federal Transfer Center near OKLAHOMA
CITY! Part of this report follows:

"At a survival/preparation seminar in S.E. Oklahoma, on 3/25/95, an
attendee interrupted one speaker, and stated that a neighbor, who
apparently serves as a reserve crew member aboard one of the all
white, unmarked, United Nations B-747 aircraft [which are assigned to
FEMA, Black Operations, i.e. U.N. / N.W.O and hubbed at the Federal
(prisoner) Transfer Center or FTC at WILL ROGERS AIRPORT], had been
dead-heading back to Oklahoma City on the flight. He descended from
the flight deck to see what the "prisoner cargo" consisted of,
however, not only did he see the normal armed, black uniformed guards,
and a load of bound humans, but he saw several U.S. Military officers,
in full uniform, gagged, and shackled to their seats! They were in the
front of the cabin, and from their visages, he discerned that they
were violently angry at their situation. No doubt!

"At this point I guess you might think this is a joke? Nope, because
in April 1993, and July 1994, an ex-Army intelligence analyst
postulated THIS EXACT SCENARIO would happen! He also stated, in the 94
interview, 'they' were going to use white 747's to fly
'detained' [kidnapped] conservative, etc., etc., 'political' prisoners
around the U.S., via the TFC, to the NOW-existing, 130 FEMA "RESISTER/
DISSIDENT" DETENTION CAMPS. The above operation, among many others in
this overall incredible takeover conspiracy, INCLUDES EARLY-ON
LEADERSHIP KIDNAPPING, PERFORMED BY FOREIGN [ASIAN] CREWS NOW HIDDEN
IN THE U.S. [on 'closed' U.S. bases] (UNDER closed military bases? -
Branton), using the 3,000 choppers provided TO THE U.N. under the
auspices of the 1989 "Open Skies Treaty," signed by good ole New World
Order Sultan George Bush; a member of the Skull and Bones Secret
Society, and the Trilateral Commission. The Treaty allows for the
aerial observation of the U.S. [and, yes, your house -- if you have
been tagged for observation, along with your phone being tapped], No
Questions Asked! The majority of the recent BLACK CHOPPER sorties have
nothing to do with lawful military/police department operations, but
are presently locating, and setting up for seizure, people/guns, who
will not take the 'mark' of the coming One World Government/Order! So
PREPARE accordingly!"

(With the preceding confirmation of his claims, we now return to the
Phil Schneider lecture. - Branton):

::: The Truth Behind the Republican Contract With America :::

"I don't perceive at this time that we have too much more than six
months of life left in this country, at the present rate. We are the
laughing stock of the world, because we are being hood-winked by so
many evil people that are running this country. I think we can do
better. I think the people over 45 are seriously worried about their
future. I'm going to run some scary scenarios by you. The Contract
With America. It contains the same terminology that Adolph Hitler used
to subvert Germany in 1931. I believe we can do better. The Contract
With America (or is it the "Contract ON America"? - Branton) is a last
ditch effort by our federal government to tear away the Constitution
and the Bill of Rights.

::: Some Statistics on the Black Helicopter Presence :::

"The black helicopters. There are over 64,000 black helicopters in the
United States. For every hour that goes by, there is one being built.
Is this the proper use of our money? What does the federal government
need 64,000 tactical helicopters for, if they are not trying to
enslave us. I doubt if the entire military needs 64,000 worldwide. I
doubt if all the world needs that many. There are 157 F-117A stealth
aircraft loaded with LIDAR and computer-enhanced imaging radar. They
can see you walking from room to room when they fly over your house.
They see objects in the house from the air with a variation limit of 1
inch to 30,000 miles. That's how accurate that is. Now, I worked in
the federal government for a long time, and I know exactly how they
handle their business.

::: Government Earthquake Device, AIDS as a Bioweapon based on Alien
Excretions :::

"The federal government has now invented an earthquake device. I am a
geologist, and I know what I am talking about. With the Kobe
earthquake in Japan, there was no pulsewave as in a normal earthquake.
None. In 1989, there was an earthquake in San Francisco. There was no
pulse wave with that one either. It is a Tesla device that is being
used for evil purposes. The black budget programs have subverted
science as we know it. Look at AIDs, invented by the National
Ordinance Laboratory in Chicago, Illinois in 1972 (and passed to the
United Nations - World Health Organization via the military
Biogenetics facility at Ft. Detrick, Maryland to be injected into
Small Pox vaccines in Africa and Hepatitus-2 vaccines in America,
according to Drs. William Campbell Douglas, Alan Cantwell, Jr. and Dr.
Robert Strecker - Branton). It was a biological weapon to be used
against the people of the United States. The reason I know this is
that I have seen the documentation by the Office of Strategic
Services, which by the way is still in operation to this day, through
the CDC in Atlanta. They used the glandular excretions of animals,
humans and alien humanoids to create the virus. (according to the
above mentioned Drs., part of the production of the virus involved the
splicing of the Bovine Leukemia and Sheep Visna viruses in cancered
human-tissue cultures. - Branton) These alien humanoids the government
is hobnobbing with are the worst news. There is absolutely no defense
against their germs -- none. They are a biological weapon of terrible
consequence. Every alien [Gray] on the planet needs to be isolated.

"Saddam Hussein killed 3.5 MILLION Kurdish people with a similar
biological weapon. Do we, the people of this planet, deserve this? No,
we don't, but we are not doing anything about it. Every moment we
waste, we are doing other people on the planet a disservice. Right
now, I am dying of cancer that I contracted because of my work for the
federal government. I might live six months. I might not. I will tell
you one thing. If I keep speaking out like I am, maybe God will give
me the life to talk my head off. I will break every law that it takes
to talk my head off. ELEVEN of my best friends in the last 22 years
have been MURDERED. Eight of the murders were called 'suicides.'
Before I went to talk in Las Vegas, I drove a friend down to Joshua
Tree, near 29 Palms. I drove into the mountains in order to get to
Needles, California, and I was followed by two government E-350 vans
with G-14 plates, each with a couple of occupants, one of which had an
Uzi. I knew exactly who they were. I have spoken 19 times and have
probably reached 45,000 people. Well, I got ahead of them and came to
a stop in the middle of the road. They both went on either side of me
and down a ravine. Is this what its going to take? I cut up my
security card and sent it back to the government, and told them if I
was threatened, and I have been, that I was going to upload 140,000
pages of documentation to the internet about [secret] government
structure and the whole plan. I have already begun that task.

"Thank you very much."

End of May 1995 Lecture

* * * *

[Following is yet another article downloaded from the Internet with
reference to Phil Schneider. Although not written by Schneider
himself, the following is an interview with a woman who was aquatinted
with the late underground base technician. Although many of the joint
CIA-Alien bases have no 'obvious' or overt surface presence or
facilities -- for instance Deep Springs, CA; Mercury, NV; Page, AZ;
Dulce, NM -- OTHER underground facilities involved with the joint
Bavarian-Alien New World Order agenda, aside from those existing below
most of the active and 'deactivated' military bases, DO include
surface facilities, and some of these for some strange reason are
located directly below major Air Port terminals. For instance there is
a large underground FEMA base below the Salt Lake City airport;
another apparently exists at the Oklahoma City airport which serves as
a joint FEMA - UNITED NATIONS "New World Order" detention/transfer
center; however the most unusual 'Airport' of this nature seems to be
the newer Denver International Airport, as described in the following
interview]:

Leading Edge Research: The KSEO 4/26/96 Interview with Alex
Christopher. Extract from Leading Edge International Research Journal
#92. The KSEO 4/26/96 Interview with Alex Christopher, Author of
"Pandora's Box" and "Pandora's Box II". Transcript 6/1/96 by Leading
Edge Research Group. Legend: DA [Dave Alan, Host] AC: [Alex
Christopher] C: [Caller]

DA: My special guest tonight is Alex Christopher, author of "Pandora's
Box", an expose of the British instigation through Washington D.C.
over the last 200 years (or more precisely, British-based Masonry, and
most notably Scottish Rite Masonry which has long-since infiltrated
British and American Masonry. - Branton). You thought you were free?
This stuff has been going on forever. The idea was to make us perceive
we were "free and independent"... She has a lot of information here,
and we are going to have to have her back again for more. I talked to
her last night. Just a fascinating individual. She is going to talk
about the Montauk Project and extraterrestrial influences, and more.
So, Alex, where do you start?

AC: Somebody told me one time, start in the middle and go from there.
If you want to, pick a subject and we'll start from there.

DA: Last night we talked about a few things. We talked about the
Denver airport last night and what is really going on down there, and
we talked a bit about the Montauk project and Al Bielek, and then we
skipped around a bit about some of the things in Pandora's Box. You
mentioned that the Queen of England has been buying up a lot of
property in Colorado under a pseudonym. Why don't we start on the
subject of the British. (Note: according to former British
Intelligence agent Dr. John Coleman, the London-based Wicca Mason
lodges are one-third of the overall global conspiracy. The other two
thirds are the Black Nobility banking families who claim direct
descent from the early Roman emperors, and also the Maltese Jesuits or
the Jesuit - Knights of Malta network. All three networks each have 13
representatives within the Bilderberg organization, which is a cover
for the Bavarian Illuminati, suggestive that Bavaria itself has
orchestrated a "marriage of convenience" between these three formerly
competitive global control groups. - Branton)

AC: All right. The information, primarily, that is in "Pandora's Box"
covers how the major corporations, railroad and banking concerns in
this country were set up through a 'trust' that was originally known
as the Virginia Company... The deal was that everything would remain
under English control, or subservient to it, and that brings us right
up to today, because we are still looking at everything falling under
that 'trust' system going back to the Crown of England. It is mind
boggling to think that everyone in this country has been led to
believe that the people in the United States had won independence from
England, when in fact they never did.

DA: Well, look at President Bush, wherein two years ago he went to
England and was knighted by the Queen. Where is that coming from? Is
it that he was a faithful servant? (Bush is allegedly a high-level
Mason, and a member of the neo-Masonic Skull & Bones lodge. - Branton)

AC: You bet. All of them are doing the bidding, and it goes back to
their secret societies and the establishment of the New World Order,
which all leads back to the house of Windsor. There has been in this
country for a long time a grooming process whereby people carry on the
bidding of the Crown of England. (I did incidentally have somewhat of
a confirmation of this when a friend told me that an American judge
confided to her that the judicial system in America is now based after
the monarchical judicial court systems of England. - Branton) That is
one of the things the system involving the Rhodes Scholars was set up
to achieve. Cecil Rhodes set it up to groom people for this task, to
carry the United States into the New World Order. It appears, from
what I have been able to find out, that the Crown of England has had
this very skillfully planned for hundreds of years, and it could be
possible that they have been privy to information that not many of us
have been [privy to] for a long long time, about the chaos involving
Earth changes that are coming. It is my understanding that England is
not going to make it through the changes, so they set up a whole new
Empire over here. That goes back to some of the things we discussed
before, about lands being bought up in Colorado.

(Note: With the fascination Britons have with time-travel, "DR. WHO"
and so-on, is it possible that British intelligence could have gained
a glimpse into the future and 'seen' what was coming? The Britons have
British Columbia, Canada as their possession -- if they are so
desperate and convinced that their nation will not survive the
'changes', then why not move the British Empire to B.C. rather than
risk offending Americans by opening old wounds that date back to the
revolutionary war, and losing their World War I and World War II
allies in the process? Just as in America, it is not the general
CITIZENS of Britain who pose a threat to freedom, it is the so-called
'elite', the Rockefellers of America and the Rothschilds of Britain
who would and have SOLD-OUT their own peoples for personal gain and
god-like domination over the lower classes. The Americans and Britons
who fought and died together on the battlefields of World War I and II
did not realize that the Rothschild-Rockefeller monarchies were the
one's who had betrayed them by helping to CREATE the 'monster' that
they were fighting in both world wars for the sole purpose of gaining
even greater wealth and power. In the end it all came down to base
human greed! America has strayed a long ways from the ideals
established by the founders of the U.S. Constitution. And, needless to
say, Britain has strayed a long ways from the ideals established by
the legendary King Arthur whose greatness came from his ability to
make all of his knights equals amidst the 'round-table' rather than
succumb to vainglory and the temptation of establishing himself as
some kind of human deity. Whether the legend of King Arthur was based
on fact or not, the IDEALS themselves are nether-the-less real and
true. - Branton).

DA: Yes, the area is of a pretty high altitude, where it will be safe.

AC: Yes. Plus, all the symbolism that is apparent in the layout of the
new Denver airport says that it is "a control center for world
control". There is a lot of "secret society" symbology at the airport.
We started researching all of this to find out what it all means. It's
all very scary. A gentlemen by the name of Al Bielek, who has been
involved in some very unusual government projects in the past, told me
that "the Denver area is where the establishment of the Western sector
of the New World Order will be in the United States". Little bits and
pieces keep coming to me, confirming things I have not had confirmed
before.

DA: Do you know of John Coleman?

AC: The Committee of 300?

DA: Yes. What's your take on that?

AC: I think his information is fantastic. If he had had the
information that I put in "Pandora's Box" when I put that together, it
would have blown his mind. But, as far as I know from my standpoint,
both sets of material go hand in hand, right down the line.

DA: Some of these things about the background of the British invasion,
taking over the land over here while they let us think that we are
running this country. How they had a bone to pick with the Czar of
Russia years ago, how they have pushed the socialist
revolution....like they say, the sun never sets on British soil. About
some of these things on the airport in Denver. Would you mind
discussing some of those things again?

AC: Well, the first thing that got my attention at the airport was the
'capstone' that I saw in a photograph, that had a Masonic symbol on
it. So, I really wanted to go to the airport and see that, because I
thought it was very unusual.

DA: The capstone?

AC: The capstone, or the dedication stone, for the Denver airport has
a Masonic symbol on it. A whole group of us went out to the airport to
see some friends off and see this capstone, which also has a time
capsule imbedded inside it. It sits at the south eastern side of the
terminal which, by the way, is called "The Great Hall", which is what
Masons refer to as their meeting hall. And, on this thing it mentions
"the New World Airport Commission". I have never heard of that, have
you?

DA: Never.

AC: It has a Masonic symbol on it, and it also has very unusual
geometric designs. It depicts an arm rising up out of it that curves
at a 45 degree angle. It also has a thing that looks like a keypad on
it. This capstone structure is made of carved granite and stainless
steel, and it is very fancy.. This little keypad area at the end of
the arm has an out-of-place unfinished wooden block sitting on it. The
gentleman that was with me on the first trip out to the airport has
since died. They say he committed suicide, but everything else tells
me that this is not possible. No one can double-tie a catheter behind
his own neck and strangle himself. I just don't think that is
possible. But, his name was Phil Schneider, and he started blowing the
whistle on all this stuff going on in the underground bases that he
had helped build for years and years. He worked on the underground
bases at Area 51 and Dulce, New Mexico, as well as several other
places. Schneider told me that this keypad-looking area looked like a
form of techno-geometry that is "alien-oriented", and that it had
something to do with a "directional system", whatever that meant, that
functioned as a homing beacon to bring ships right into the "Great
Hall".

In the same general area on this capstone, there are some most unusual
designs on the floor that are all Masonic in nature, which lead right
back to the "Black Sun" [Editor Note: According to Al Bielek,
Schneider's father was a U-boat captain during the Nazi regime who was
also on the Eldridge in 1943 in a medical capacity], which goes back
to Nazi symbology. See, the "secret societies" are supposedly into Sun
worship. The Nazi's were into "Black Sun" worship, which connects with
the idea of Saturn. Saturn and Satanism kind of go hand-in-hand.
(Note: The "Black Sun" also refers to the massive black hole at the
center of our galaxy. In regards to "unusual designs on the floor",
one source claims that the base of the Hoover Dam near Las Vegas, not
far from Area 51, contains "wild inlays" of occultic and masonic
zodiacal symbolism. Reports stated that as the cliffs were being
blasted open to make way for the dam, huge caverns were penetrated.
Could these have connections with the underground network? Another
unusual dam is the Glen Canyon dam near Page, Arizona which could
conceivably provide hydroelectric power to a base that allegedly lies
below the area and ties the Dulce and Area 51 bases together
subterraneally. - Branton) Then, we have this system of murals at the
airport that are the most grotesque things you've ever seen.

DA: What's on the murals?

AC: I say that they are about what they plan to do to us, and the
world as a whole, not what has happened or some fantasy. One of them
that is very unusual has three caskets with dead people in them...

DA: That's part of the ritual connected with the Skull & Bones Club.

Yes. There are evidently three groups of people that they would like
to see dead. The first casket has what the artist told me was a Jewish-
American child, a little girl, and she has the 'star' on her clothes
and a little Bible and a locket... (this may be a depiction of both
Judeo&Christian believers, both of whom have historically been the
target of the 'inquisitions' of some of the more occultic secret
societies of Europe, such as the Thule-backed inquisition against the
Jews and the Jesuit-backed inquisition against the Protestants. -
Branton)

DA: Jewish lineage is passed through the female...

AC: Yes. Well, all these caskets depict women who are dead. Then, in
the center casket there is depicted a Native American woman, and the
last casket has a black woman in it. Now, normally I would not have
thought too much about these murals if I had not done a lot of
research. Even in the government documents I have run across gene-
splicing discussions on how they would like to "splice out specific
races", and also whoever these people are do not like the Jewish
people. This is just one of the murals, and these murals are huge.
This same mural depicts the destruction of a city and the forest, and
there is a little girl holding a Mayan tablet that speaks of the
destruction of civilization. There is a mural that depicts this
'thing' standing over a city that looks like a green "Darth Vader",
with a sword, that has destroyed the city. This character is huge, and
there is a road depicted with women walking holding dead babies. This
same mural extends over to another mural which depicts all of the
children of the world taking the weapons from each country on earth
and giving them to a central figure which is a GERMAN boy who has this
iron fist and anvil in his hand that is totally out of proportion to
the child's body, beating the swords into plowshares. I thought, well,
this is very odd depicting a German child doing this. What all this
symbology on the airport murals seems to convey is that not only do we
have a secret society behind this, but that it is a German [Bavarian]
secret society behind this, working in the vicinity of this New World
Control Center.

DA: It is interesting when you consider Operation Paperclip wherein
all these Nazi's were brought to the United States to be groomed,
financed, and basically brought back into power.

(Note: That is, by the Rockefeller cartel who supplied Nazi Germany
with the oil and materials necessary to keep their war machine
operating. Rockefeller-connected OIL companies include EXXON, ARCO,
ZAPATA, etc. It is alleged that these corporations initially took in
and gave refuge to some 3000 Nazi SS war criminals by providing them
with immunity, new identities, and positions within the Bavarian-
backed Rockefeller corporate empire and within the CIA -- with the
help of Bavarian agents like Allen Dulles, Otto Scorzeny, Reinhard
Gehlen and later Vice President Nelson Rockefeller. These were then
used as a covert force to destroy American independence and make
America subject to a Bavarian-backed New World Order. Remember even
through the Bilderbergers consist of a "marriage of convenience"
between Londonese Wicca Masons, Basilian Black Nobility and Roman
Maltese Jesuits... the supreme controllers of the Bildeberger cult
itself are the secret black gnostic cults of Bavaria whose 'Cult of
the Serpent' -- or Illuminati -- can be traced back to Egypt and
ultimately to Babylon itself. These Rockefeller-Nazi projects
reportedly continued through at least 1975 during which period many
thousands more "underground Nazis" were brought into America from
Europe and also, if we are to believe some reports, from the secret
German "New Berlin" base under the mountains of Neu Schwabenland,
Antarctica that was established during World War II via Nazi-occupied
South Africa. Is Neu Schwabenland the REAL power behind the joint
Bavarian-Alien New World Order Agenda? The fact that British and
American Masons would be pulled into a Bavarian-backed New World Order
conspiracy run by anti-British Nazi's and anti-Masonic Jesuits -- in
spite of the animosities of World Wars I and II -- would seem
contradictory to the extreme. However NOT if we consider the fact that
Roman Jesuits had secretly created the Scottish Rite of Masonry at the
Jesuit college of Clermont in France and also the Bavarian Illuminati
via the Jesuit Adam Weishaupt. Both the Illuminati and Scottish Rite
worked together to INFILTRATE Masonry and subdue the traditional Judeo-
Christian York Rite. The Masonic elitists in Great Britain and America
would have as a result of this infiltration become subject to the
influences of the Scottish Rite dominated 33rd degree -- falsely
believing that 'Masonry' was still the enemy of the 'Jesuits', as in
earlier times the conflict between the two was notorious. They might
have been deceived into believing that 'British Masonry' would come
out on top of the New World Order when in fact Rome and Bavaria, the
two power-centers of the old [Un]Holy Roman Empire, had the REAL
control. But blinded by their own delusions of grandeur and world
domination, the British elite failed to see how their Masonic lodges
were being infiltrated and manipulated by their sworn enemies. Some of
the elite might have been oblivious to the ins-and-outs of Masonry
altogether, being conscious only of their own greed. - Branton)

AC: Well, I know they're here, because I have seen them [Germans]
alongside the Americans in the more sensitive areas of the airport.
But, these paintings are most disturbing and very unusual. When I
first tried to contact the artist and talk to him about these murals,
he told me that he was given guidelines on what to paint and put in
the murals. When I showed up in his studio, I asked to see the
guidelines for the last two murals he was working on, he suddenly went
"brain dead" and said "of course, there are no guidelines." It took
myself and two other people over eight months to figure out all the
symbology that is embodied in these murals. It turned out that some of
these are 'trigger' pictures, containing symbology designed to trigger
altered personalities of people that have been groomed in MKULTRA type
programs for specific tasks that they have been trained to do in terms
of something connected with Satanic rituals and mind control. I had
one woman that called me out of the blue one night, and she was really
disturbed about some information. She told me many different things
that later turned out to be known MKULTRA triggers. Also, almost every
aspect of these murals contains symbols relating back to secret
societies. When you get the overall view of what they are talking
about in these things, it is very very scary. It goes back to the Bio-
diversity Treaty, getting rid of specific races of people, taking over
the world and mind control.

There is one picture in which every plant turns out to be mind-
altering or poisonous, and all the animals are Masonic symbols used in
literature in every country in the world. It took a very long time to
track all this stuff down and figure out what they're trying to say.
The one way they tell stories is in pictures. It's right there in our
face when you go into the airport. Most people look at them and say,
"those are crazy-looking pictures, what are they doing in this
airport?"

DA: Now, you mentioned that underneath this airport it goes down many
levels.

AC: Yes.

DA: Does the fact that all these underground levels are there have
something to do with why it took so long for this airport to open?

AC: Well, the gentleman that I was dealing with, Phil Schneider, said
that during the last year of construction they were connecting the
underground airport system to the deep underground base. He told me
that there was at least an eight-level deep underground base there,
and that there was a 4.5 square mile underground city and an 88.5
square-mile base underneath the airport. It is very unusual that they
would allot a 50 square-mile area on the surface at which to locate an
airport in the middle of nowhere unless they really planned to use it
for something very unusual later. There is a 10-mile, 4-line highway
out to this airport, and there is nothing out there in between the
airport and Denver. Not even a service station, at least in September
1995. The people in Denver are really upset with the fact that this
airport went in the way it did.

There was this fellow who wrote a book in which he made the statement
that they had a copy of an audio tape on which a Denver city official
was talking with people from the CIA, and that he was paid 1.5 million
dollars to allow the 'airport' to be built, no matter what it took. It
appears that there was a lot more interest in getting the airport
built from just officials in the Denver area. They plan on using this
facility for something else other than just landing planes.

DA: So, this guy got you down there to take a look at the underground?

AC: Well, he was invited to go along on the trip. I had a friend that
actually got us down into the active area in the underground. It's
very interesting down there. The baggage equipment area is very
unusual. All the old luggage equipment that wouldn't work right
doesn't look much different than the stuff that is working today.

DA: You were telling me that there are huge concrete corridors with
sprinklers all along the ceiling. What are these sprinkler heads doing
in a concrete bunker, pray tell? (Presumably concrete will not 'burn'
if there is a potential fire, so is it possible that something other
than 'water' is meant to be expelled from these sprinklers which are
located "all along" the ceiling? - Branton)

AC: Well, this is the same question we asked. These shafts are huge
and run along adjacent to the tramline on both sides. So, there are
two of these huge shafts large enough to fit a two-lane highway in
there. There are very FEW openings into and out of the tram shaft, but
at the end of them, going out into this 50 square miles of acreage is
a huge steel door that would facilitate the entrance of a great big
truck. It could be used for almost anything, but what is so unusual
about it is that about EVERY FIVE OR SIX FEET on the ceiling, across
almost the full width of the area, there is a pipe with three or four
sprinkler heads. This goes on for the FULL length of the thing, "which
must be close to a mile". There are two of these shafts, and I got a
picture in the mail the other day which was very unusual that was
taken by someone on board the tram in the shaft. The picture appeared
to actually show ghost-like figures on it. It was a mother and a baby
wrapped in a blanket. When you are down in that concrete shaft, both
times I got nauseated. There are some very unusual vibrations down
there (from other 'time dimensions'? - Branton). Now, the tunnel shaft
that the tram comes in on could connect up with an underground tunnel
coming in from five buildings that were built and buried. There was
already a 40 foot diameter tunnel there when construction started.
Those five buildings they built 3 1/2 years ago, and suddenly they
said "oops, these are in the wrong place", and buried them, along with
a very high-tech runway that is buried under about four inches of
dirt. It seems insane that they would build a very technical building
complex with interlocking tunnels and a tunnel going back to the tram
tunnel at the concourse, and then state that they built it in the
"wrong place" and cover it up with dirt. I don't believe that people
are that stupid.

DA: No. Projects like that are strategically planned, and they just
don't go and do that.

AC: Some of these five buildings are 150 feet tall. There is one 78
feet tall, and one that is 126 feet tall. They are all in that range.
From this complex there is a shaft that runs to concourse "C". When
they started this project, as I said, there was also a huge 40 foot
diameter shaft brought in there from somewhere that was off-limits to
the work crews. It was there when the project was started. And,
everybody that worked on these projects....there were five different
contractors, and the people on each contracted crew did not interact
with the other ones. When the project was done, everyone was fired and
sent away.

DA: You would think that during this massive construction they would
not be able to keep this stuff secret.

AC: I think a lot of the people saw things that disturbed them so much
that they would not talk about it. I know several people who worked on
the project that managed to find their way down into the depths,
probably close to the deep underground base, and saw things that
scared them so badly they won't talk about it. I interviewed a few of
the former employees on these construction crews that worked out there
on these buildings that ended up buried, and they are afraid to talk.
They say that everybody is real nervous about it, and they decided to
tell some of the secrets that they knew, but they don't want anybody
to know who they are. So, I can tell you that it is a very unusual and
spooky type of place, and if you are a sensitive person you get
nauseated as soon as you enter the perimeter of the airport.
Especially when you go down underground. You become very nauseated a
nervous. There is also so much electromagnetic flux in the area that
if you get out on the open ground around the airport, you will 'buzz'.

DA: Where is this flux field coming from? What do you think the
purpose of this is?

AC: I think that its coming from some kind of underground electrical
system, because where we were there were no power lines, and the whole
place was just buzzing with this free energy floating around. Very
unusual. In addition, there are areas in the underground that have
chain-link fences with the barbed wire tops pointed inward, like they
were there to keep people in, not keep people out. All these areas are
there, acres of it, and none of it is in active use. There are many
terraced areas that go down. One area in particular is forbidden to go
into unless you are wearing a biological protective suit. They say
there is some kind of "unidentified biological fungus" in that area
that attacks people's lungs.

DA: Hmmm. Some kind of way to hide something that is in this area?

AC: Well, we think that area is one that leads to deeper levels
underground at the airport. But, it is surrounded by a chain-link
fence and you can't get in there. We think this is the area that one
of the electricians kind of stumbled into that went down about six
levels below the fourth level, and ran into some really weird stuff.
He won't talk about any of it now.

DA: Real weird stuff.

AC: Also, at the airport there are what look like miniature nuclear
reactor cooling towers, and I don't understand why they are there.
When people asked, the reply is that they are part of the ventilation
and exhaust system. Ventilation and exhaust from where?

DA: What do you think its for?

AC: I think it is all hooked up to the deep underground.

DA: They say that this place looks like some underground "holding
area"...somewhat like a cattle lot....a place that could hold
thousands of people. The gates, fences....

AC: The luggage transport vehicles move on a full-sized double-lane
highway, and along this highway are chain-linked areas that could be
used for holding areas. I don't understand why they built this the way
they did, unless they planned to use it for something like that in the
future.

DA: So what could all this be for?

AC: If Phil is right, and all this hooks up to the deep underground
base that he was offered the plans to build back in 1979, and that
what this other man TOLD me in private [is] that there is a lot of
human SLAVE LABOR in these deep underground bases being used by these
aliens, and that a lot of this slave labor is children. HE SAID that
when the children reach the point that they are unable to work any
more, they are slaughtered on the spot and consumed.

DA: Consumed by who?

AC: Aliens. Again, this is not from me, but from a man that gave his
life to get this information out. He worked down there for close to 20
years, and he knew everything that was going on.

DA: Hmmm. Who do these aliens eat?

AC: They specifically like young human children, that haven't been
contaminated like adults. Well, there is a gentleman out giving a lot
of information from a source he gets it from, and he says that there
is an incredible number of children snatched in this country.

DA: Over 200,000 each year.

AC: And that these children are the main entree for dinner.

(Note: Many will read this and scoff in utter disbelief at such a
claim. This is all well and fine, and even Phil Schneider warns us to
put on our 'skepticals' when investigating claims and to investigate
them so that they can be definitively proven one way or the other, as
all claims of an extraordinary nature should be. So, I would suggest
that Congress by-pass the EXECUTIVE branch of government -- which has
sold-out to the Intelligence-Military-Industrial Complex, a branch
that was originally intended by the founders of the Republic to be the
'servants' of CONGRESS, the SENATE and the PEOPLE -- and undertake a
full-scale investigation of this and other underground bases, even if
this calls for full-scale Congress-backed military mobilization. The
excuse for such an undertaking could for instance be to investigate
claims of unethical use of U.S. tax dollars, violations of Federal
Medical Regulations in regards to genetic research, failure to pay
property taxes on underground facilities used by non-elected
officials, harboring of "illegal aliens", bribery and treason, illegal
cattle rustling in regards to the Dulce and other bases, possible
kidnapping and human rights abuses against children, and so on... -
Branton)

DA: How many Draconians are down there?

AC: I have heard the figure of 150,000 just in the New York area.

DA: Underneath New York?

AC: Yes. In some kind of underground base there.

DA: Interesting. Now, you've seen pictures of these things?

AC: I have seen them face to face.

DA: You have?

AC: Yes. From some information that has been put out by a group or
team that also works in these underground bases that is trying to get
information out to people that love this country, THERE IS A WAR THAT
IS GOING ON UNDER OUT FEET, AND ABOVE OUR HEADS, that the public
doesn't know anything about, and its between these ALIEN forces and
the HUMANS that are trying to fight them.

DA: What other types have you seen?

AC: The ones that I have seen are the big-eyed Greys and the
Reptilians.

DA: What do these Reptilians look like?

AC: There are three different types.

DA: Can you tell us how you happened to come into contact with them?

AC: When I lived in Florida in Panama City, at that particular time
the Gulf Breeze sightings were going on, and the area was virtually a
hotbed for strange events. I had neighbors that were into watching
UFOs and getting information about them. One night about 2:30 am, my
neighbor called me and was absolutely frantic, and wanted me to come
over there. I ran over there and went in the front door, and she and
her boyfriend, who is a commercial airline pilot, were in the living
room scared out of their wits. I looked over at her, and her eyeballs
are rolling back in her head and she was passing out and sliding down
the wall. Her boyfriend was trying to tell me what was going on, and I
was feeling this incredible energy that felt like it was trying to
penetrate my head. So, I grabbed both of them and pulled them both
outside, where we stood for a while and talked...

DA: Some people would say that this is a case of demon possession...

AC: Oh, no. There was radiation in the room. The next day all of her
plants were dead. So, there was a massive amount of energy focused on
that room. Anyway, after about an hour had passed, we had discussed
what went on and decided to go back into the house. They had both been
in bed and were pulled out of their bed during the night. All they
remember is a flash of light in their faces and the next thing they
know they're both scared to death. But, when we went back into the
house, I noticed that the man had a small palm-print on his side with
fingers that must have been 10 inches long, with claw marks on the end
that were burned into his side. The next day, that area was so swollen
that he could not touch it. I have video pictures of these things on
his side. The prints were there from someone bending down from behind
him and pulling him out of bed. They had been making love, and
'somebody' lifted him off of her and left these burns there.

Anyway, they were both totally flipped out. I finally got them calmed
down enough to let me go home. I went home and went to bed. The next
thing I know, I woke up and there is this 'thing' standing over my
bed. He had wrap-around yellow eyes with snake pupils, and pointed
ears and a grin that wrapped around his head. He had a silvery suit
on, and this scared the living daylights out of me. I threw the covers
over my head and started screaming....I mean, here is this thing with
a Cheshire-cat grin and these funky glowing eyes...this is too much. I
have seen that kind of being on more than one occasion.

DA: What else can you say about it?

AC: Well, he had a hooked nose and he was [humanoid] looking, other
than the eyes, and had kind of grayish skin. Later on in 1991, I was
working in a building in a large city, and I had taken a break about
6:00, and the next thing I knew it was 10:30 at night, and I thought I
had taken a short break. I started remembering that I was taken aboard
a ship, through four floors of an office building, and through a roof.
There on the ship is were I encountered 'GERMANS' AND 'AMERICANS'
WORKING TOGETHER, and also the GREY ALIENS, and then we were taken to
some other kind of facility and there I saw the REPTILIANS again ...
the one's I call the "baby Godzilla's", that have the short teeth and
yellow slanted eyes, and who look like a VELOCI-RAPTOR, kind of.

DA: So, why would these people pick on you?

AC: Well, I found one common denominator in the abduction, and it
keeps on being repeated over and over again. I deal with lots of
people who have been abducted, and the one common denominator seems to
be the blood line, and its the blood line that goes back to ancient
Indian or Native American blood lines.

DA: Are these people looking for genetic material?

AC: Well, I don't know if it is a very ancient blood line that they
want to try and stop, or what the reasoning is. I know that I was
asked some questions, like how I was capable of doing some of the
psychic things I was doing at the time. But, it is very unusual to
find anybody that remotely thinks they have been taken that doesn't
have the Indian blood line, somewhere.

DA: Now, after that experience, what happened after that? What were
some of the other times you saw some of these beings?

AC: Well, at that facility I saw the almond-eyed Greys, but the thing
that sticks in my mind are the beings that look like reptiles, or the
veloci-raptors. They are the cruelest beings you could ever imagine,
and they even smell hideous. There were a couple of very unusual areas
down there where I was taken which looked like cold storage lockers,
where these things were in hibernation tubes, and that is about all I
remember, other than seeing some black helicopters and little round-
wing disk type aircraft. At that point, the memory seems to be cut off
and I can't tap through to anything else. They're there, folks.

DA: Maybe I'll open up some phone lines, and maybe we'll talk about Al
Bielek and some things you discussed with him. Are you open to that?

AC: Sure.

Caller (C): On those ships where the Germans and Americans were, did
they have any kind of an insignia on their uniforms?

AC: Yes, they did. I have been told that the organization is called
"The Black League" (possibly the "Black Monks" within the NSA who
reportedly interact directly with aliens? - Branton); by people that
might know. A blue triangle with a red-eyed black dragon, with a
circle around it. It was very unusual. There's another woman that has
written a book about an encounter she had in Fort Walden. I met her
some years back, and we were taking about things we've seen. She also
talked about this strange insignia. She and I both sat down a drew
what we saw, and they were virtually carbon copies of each other.
(Note: Winged serpent symbols have been observed by several abductees,
including policeman Herbert Schirmer who reported the insignia on the
uniforms of the reptilian-eyed grays that had abducted him. - Branton)

In the book "Cosmic Conflict", the author talks about the ancient city
that was uncovered by the Germans before World War II, and tells about
their effort to revive some frozen humans they found in this
underground city, and that the true humans couldn't be revived, but
the ones that could be revived were in fact reptilians in disguise,
and the reptilians have the capability to do shape-shifting and create
a [laser] holographic image so when you look at them you see a human,
but under that there is no human there. It's like a "deja vu" of the
movie "They Live". (Note: An early newsletter called THE CRYSTAL BALL
published information along this line, which stated that the Soviets
had during the investigation of a meteor crash uncovered a buried city
in Siberia where they discovered the frozen bodies of both humans --
who could NOT be revived, and human-appearing reptilians -- who WERE
revived from the frozen state. Allegedly the reptilians re-animated
and killed the Soviet scientists and through some type of psychic
osmosis drained their minds and assimilated their memories and
features through a molecular shape-shifting type process. John
Carpenter, who directed THEY LIVE, also directed an earlier movie
called THE THING which was based somewhat on a similar theme. The
alien 'impostors' then called for backup and more scientists came out
and were 'replaced', and these eventually returned to Russia and began
to infiltrate the Communist government. Although such claims may seem
preposterous, it is nevertheless interesting how numerous
'preposterous' claims as this contain identical 'reptilian' themes.
Aside from the instinctive and basic racial fear in humans of things
'reptilian', could this re-occurring theme be more than mere
coincidence? - Branton) Cathy O'Brien, who wrote "Trance-Formation in
America", revealed that George Bush projected a hologram that he was a
reptilian .... real crazy stuff, but if this technology that they
possess is there, why couldn't a race do something like that ... these
'people' that are working with our government?

C: I believe that, but I do believe that these are demons that
manifest themselves as alien beings, and that this has been going on
for a long time...

DA: Demons? Who are demons?

C: Fallen angels.

DA: The reptilians look like that anyway. All the scriptures around
the planet talk about serpent beings (or in the case of Judeo-
Christian scriptures like Genesis chapter 3 and Revelation chapter 12,
serpent beings possessed by 'demons' or through which demons are able
to or allowed to 'incarnate'. - Branton) What do you think, Alex?

AC: Well, I think that's pretty much what the bottom line is. Also,
they talk about the rapture...

DA: It could be like an alien 'thanksgiving'.

AC: These people that have done all this research and are part of the
underground government are telling that the humans on this planet have
been at war with these reptilian aliens for thousands of years. At one
point, things got so hot on the planet, like it is now, aliens took on
this holographic image and infiltrated the human race in order to take
it over and undermine it, just like this New World Order is doing
right now. They're saying that the same thing happened to civilization
on Earth before, and that the humans before actually had the
capability for interplanetary travel, and that it was so bad here with
the reptilians that they had to leave... What they are also saying is
that these beings that are human-looking that are visiting our planet,
at this time, trying to inform people what is going on, and guide
them, are actually OUR ANCESTORS THAT ESCAPED FROM EARTH before, when
it was under reptilian domination.

DA: What is your take on these crop circles?

AC: Oh, the crop circles that are the real ones are a type of
geometric language containing some kind of information. There was one
that was a Mandelbrot fractal. How do you fake that? They say that
there are a lot of crop circles going on in the United States, and
that the government shuts the information off (or destroys the crop
circles before the public can find them, others claim. - Branton)
about their occurrence.

DA: Canada and Australia as well.

C: It seems that we are having an increase in these encounters and
sightings.

AC: Things are escalating at an incredible rate. I think a lot of
these movies in the media are trying to get us softened up for what
they plan to unleash on us.

C: So, in just a matter of years, they plan to bring it out and bring
people to that airport?

AC: You know, Reagan said more than once that the only thing that
would bring people together would be some kind of "outside force".

DA: Exactly, I remember that. He said that several times.

AC: I went to South Florida a couple of weeks ago and interviewed a
man who had done research for 30 years, and oddly enough, he tapped
into some of the same information I had, in that our government has
had round-winged, saucer-type technology, high mach speed aircraft
since the 1920's, and that in 1952 they had over 500 of these aircraft
hidden in secret bases. Now, if they had that in 1952, considering
that military technology grows by 44 years for every year that goes
by, what do you imagine they have now, 44 years later, after
technology has advanced the equivalent of 1,936 years?

C: About two or three months ago, I went to do a business transaction
with a fellow I have known for about two or three years, and one of
his relatives had just died -- we were pretty close, and we got into a
deep conversation about stuff, and he told me he worked in an
underground military base in Colorado. I asked him what he did there,
and he said that if he told me he'd have to kill me. I told him I
didn't want to know. I was really shocked, and didn't know what to
think of it, and then I heard this program. I want to know what your
guest thinks about the Iron Mountain report the government did in the
1960's, and if that ties into the Nazis and the Americans [CIA]
working together. Also, this would also explain George Washington's
vision where this country was invaded from the East by a foreign
power, and then when all hope seemed lost, the angels of God would
come down and the nation would be saved. Anyway, I never could
understand why angels of God would come down and fight with men to
save a puny little country that has been around for only 200 years,
but in this scenario, there seems to be some explanation here.

AC: Yes, the Iron Mountain report. The guy that claims to be the
author of it now claims that it was nothing more than a joke, but for
a joke, it seems to be following the time line to the hilt, so I think
it was something that made its way out and they are trying to cover
that up. Everything that was in that report is happening in great
detail right now.

C: Do these reptilians bleed if they get shot?

DA: Has anybody ever killed one?

AC: Phil Schneider did. He killed several of them. When he was
involved in cutting some tunnels at Dulce, he was lowered down a shaft
and ended up in a nest of these things. He and some of his team were
in there, and some of the Delta Force came in. They had a shootout
with these aliens, and he killed a couple of them before they got a
round off and shot him with some sort of laser weapon. He used to pull
his shirt up and show me where they darned near blew a hole in his
chest with whatever kind of laser weapon they were using.

DA: So they can be killed, then?

AC: Yes, if you have the drop on them. They die just like everyone
else. They consist of mass just like we do.

C: It is interesting that high officials in the Clinton
administration, like Cisneros, were deeply involved with the
construction of this airport. Also, Pat Shroeder. All of a sudden,
she's leaving office. It's like a lot of people who have been involved
with this airport are leaving town. Also, there is a fellow by the
name of Rodney Stitch, who writes about the total corruption in the
Denver area. Does this tie in with what you were talking about?

AC: Well, he is the one that wrote the book "Defrauding America". He
said that they had a tape of a CIA agent paying off the mayor of
Denver to get the airport built. There is just so much corruption.
They are selling the good American people out. We have some of our own
people selling the rest of population out for a few pieces of gold.

DA: What about Al Bielek and how what he is saying may relate to this?

AC: I met Al about a year ago.

DA: Who is Al Bielek?

AC: He claims to be one of the ones who jumped overboard off the
Eldridge when it went into hyperspace during the Philadelphia
Experiment. He actually traveled forward in time, and asked the people
that he encountered there what happened in his future. At that time,
he was given the information about the New World Order and that Denver
was the location for the NWO Western Sector, and that Atlanta was
supposed to be the control center for the Eastern Sector. Can it be
that the fact that the Olympics is supposed to be in Atlanta is part
of a scenario? All the highways in Atlanta have high-security
monitoring cameras just like those seen in some of the underground
areas at the Denver airport. These monitors are all over the
interstate highway and on many of the streets in Atlanta. Last week, I
was talking to a fellow who was actually working on the Olympic
project, in terms of the main stadium, and he said that they're
gearing up for the possibility of terrorist acts. Do they know
something we don't know?

(Note: As for 'Denver' being the center of a New World Order control
system in the west, we should realize that the future is not fully
SET. It IS subject to change. There are, according to contactees,
different 'parallel realities' that exist. The 3rd dimensional or 3rd
density reality is the 'foundation' upon which all others exist. Other
realities exist in 4th, 5th and other 'densities' wherein objects and
events are somewhat more 'fluid' than in 3rd dimensional reality. Many
who claim to have traveled in time state that while doing so they were
out-of-phase somewhat with the people within the other time-zones.
They could observe them yet were 'invisible' or in a phased-out state,
in essence unable to 'interfere' to the point of changing 3rd
dimensional past events. Others, involved in the Montauk project for
instance, state that the 'futures' that they observed were of a quasi-
reality or semi-dreamlike nature, as if 'future' reality was like wet
clay that had not yet 'set' and solidified into a CONCRETE reality. So
if this is the case, then Denver does NOT necessarily have to be a New
World Order control center, even though the 'thought forms', or what
you might call 'reality blueprints', ARE being created by the secret
government and are in the process of 'solidifying' as the future gets
closer. However, ANY thought form can be destroyed and replaced BEFORE
it solidifies into 3rd density concrete reality. Those living within
the 3rd density event-flow have the POWER to determine the outcome of
events through their connection to the eternal NOW, just as a large
river has first priority over the smaller tributaries in determining
the course of a river bed. So then we are living in an eternal NOW
which is continually in the process of being converted from a FLUID
thought form state and into CONCRETE material form state. Once 'set',
an event cannot be undone. However if there is even a minimal amount
of malleability left to the event, then that event can potentially be
turned... for better or worse. - Branton)

DA: Maybe they want to go ahead and perpetrate something again. One
thing after another. It's all part of their scenario. Let's take a
call.

C: Yes, I would like to thank you and your guest for coming forward
with this information. And, as unbelievable as it is for the audience,
I personally have had first-hand experience with some of this stuff.
Not so much with the reptilians, but when you talk about this
technology base that the government is working with, my own encounters
with this technology were basically terrifying, in that I didn't know
what was going on. I got indoctrinated into some type of mind control
program that was perpetrated on me. I was in the wrong place at the
wrong time. It's amazing to me that this stuff is going on, and I know
that it is frustrating to get people to wake up to this. I am a little
nervous here. It runs a little deeper than just on a physical level of
threat. I think a lot of this stuff is not just about suppressing our
minds and will to resist the government. It's about getting our minds
to the point to where we're so "droned down" that we have no chance of
reconnecting with the source. I think this whole thing has to do with
us on a soul level.

AC: That's right. That's what it's all about. It's the last great
adventure to control the space between our ears and to eventually take
over our souls. I also think that a lot of the people who have sold us
out and are involved in this have no idea what the BIG picture is,
because it is all so compartmentalized. This is a very demonic
scenario that is going on here.

C: That is why I will spend the rest of my days trying to bring this
to people's attention. My take on it is that if you don't make the cut
when all of this comes to a climax, and they do achieve that ultimate
control, your chances of reconnecting are delayed indefinitely.

AC: Well, you know, we have some beings that are waiting for people to
ask, en masse, for help, and they are there, and they will help, but
we have to ask for help, because they honor free will.

C: My previous experience was pretty nightmarish, but I did get
through this, and my perspective on God is a gift.

DA: Alex, how do we get a hold of your book, "Pandora's Box"?

AC: You can write to PANDORA'S BOX, 2663 Valleydale Road, Suite 126,
Birmingham, Alabama 35224. "Pandora's Box - Volume One" is $50 [$80
Overseas], and "Pandora's Box - Volume Two" is $35 [$65 Overseas]. The
book called "The Cosmic Conflict" is $40 [$75 Overseas]. These are big
books, with lots of information.

DA: Well, Alex, thank you for being here, and we'll have you back here
again.

* * * *

TODD J. VS. THE GRAY EMPIRE:

(Recently a friend of mine related an unusual experience involving an
abduction to an underground system southeast of Denver. I personally
believe that his experience supports Alex Christopher's claim of a
vast underground network under the D.I.A. area. This individual, Todd
J., has experienced abductions by the Grays ever since he was a child.
In later years he and a friend by the name of Mike traveled to Nevada
to investigate Area 51, and while there witnessed an unusual orange
object in the sky that they could not identify through conventional
means. While staying in a motel room on the way back from their
experience, Todd had the following experience - Branton):

"...I opened my eyes and saw someone standing beside the bed. A faint
blue light surrounded the personage which appeared to be a gray
colored 'man' with a big head and large black almond-shaped eyes. It
reached out and GRABBED my hand and all of a sudden the room changed
into some type of a laboratory with strange computers and screens. The
alien spoke to me, and I sensed he was trying to 'show' affection
towards me. He called me The chosen One. I expressed I have had it
with you guys, I told you before to leave me alone, you are not good
and can not make me believe you are good. The being explained that I
was chosen as a Prophet and he spelled out on a paper a new name for
me. I read the name and it said Enoch. I told him that God may have
chosen me but not you, and not in this manner. You can not deceive me,
I know what you are and what you are doing, and you have no right to
take me from my bed at night against my will. The being replied, 'You
do not realize what you are saying, we are also creations of God and
are good. We shall show ourselves to the world soon and then you must
decide what to do'. I got angry and commanded the alien in the name of
Jesus Christ to take me back. All of a sudden the strange room was
filled with a bright white light and I was taken into it. The next
morning I awoke with a slight headache and a nose-bleed...

"Here is an experience I had with the underground...

"The most unusual abduction I have had so far occurred in May of 1993.
I remember first being inside a UFO high above the earth, not
remembering how I got there. I was standing on a circular silver pad
with two grays beside me -- it reminded me of the teleporter room you
see on Star Trek. I could not move and I noticed my hands were bound
by some sort of metallic device. I saw the front of the room turn into
a type of window and we were looking down over the earth, but I could
not see any stars. The gray at the control panel was moving its hands
back and forth but there did not seem to be any dials on the panels
just holes and places to put their hands. The larger gray beside me
held up his arms and we flew down to the earth at a great speed. We
then appeared to be flying over a city, which reminded me of Denver.
We flew south-east to a deserted area with some mounds and the ground
opened up and the entire craft went down into the earth. We rapidly
went through some type of tunnel and then finally came to a stop.

"A door opened to the left of us and a strange light poured into the
craft. I noticed that above the door were some strange glyphs - like
some form of altered Egyptian. I could move my legs and the larger
gray directed me outside the craft with two smaller grays. We were in
a very barren place full of dirt -- the sky appeared unusually orange
and gray as if it was some type of artificial light. I saw a building
with the initials MJ upon it and was greeted by three peculiar looking
men dressed in black. The men told me that they were MJ 1, 2 and 3. I
at that time did not know what it stood for. I was then turned about
and taken down a cavern entrance until we came to some very huge
ancient looking doors. The grays waved their arms and the doors
opened.

"Inside was one of the most beautiful places I ever had seen. It was
an underground city paved with marble and gold. There was abundant
plant life and lots of water. I saw many people walking about dressed
in white robes and they were all busy doing something. I was taken
into a palace type building and we came to a throne.

"The throne turned around towards me and I was face to face with a
strange looking man. It appeared to be half human -- half alien. It
was quite huge, and was clothed in a crimson robe. Its eyes were large
and black but had pupils. It had almost full lips and a nose. It wore
a crown of some sort.

"It then spoke to me telepathically. 'Greetings Todd, The chosen one,
we have awaited your arrival.' I inquired 'The chosen one? Chosen for
what?' It explained that they had chosen me to join their people and
that I was a prophet to lead them. They would give me great powers --
every power I had ever dreamed of -- I could fly, I could tell the
future, I could heal the sick and travel through time. I got angry and
said 'I am a servant of Jesus Christ and the only power I need is the
priesthood of God. If I was meant to have the things of which you
speak then God would show them to me in his due time. Now I ask for
you to let me go -- you have no right to do this to me.' The being
then said that God had made them also and that God had sent them to
tell me these things. This made me even more upset, because it seemed
they would have told me that in the first place if they were really
from God. Instead they did not mention that until I said I was a
servant of God. So I commanded them in the name of Jesus Christ to let
me free. In which the being tapped the metal bands on my wrists and
they flowed like mercury into the shape of a ball into his hand. He
then bowed his head and told us to depart.

"The two small grays took us back to the entrance. I looked around one
last time and the people were looking at me with confused faces and a
bit of interest in me. Who ever they were I had a desire to HELP them
and to know what they were doing here. But I wanted to leave and as we
were walking away back toward the cavern entrance one of the grays
asked me if I was sure I was making the right decision. I affirmed I
knew I was. I asked it if it knew Jesus Christ, and it seemed to be
AFRAID of the word and affirmed he did NOT know him. I got angry and
picked up the gray and threw it against a wall until it collapsed. I
was about to try and turn back to the PEOPLE when I felt a buzz on my
neck and everything went black. When I came to I was back in my
bed..."

Todd's anger was apparently sparked as a result of the smaller Grey
saying it did not know Jesus Christ / God when the large being had
implied that they DID, and that they were operating under His orders.
It would seem that deception was used here. This anger may also have
been a response on Todd's part to years of violation by the Grays of
his free agency. Some believe, and I tend to agree, that the Greys
have to have some kind of 'open door' to manipulate a person's life.
It may not necessarily be an 'invitation', but a 'crack' in the psyche
that the Greys could exploit in order to get a person to open
themselves up to their influence. The Greys are apparently determined
to look for ANY loophole. The individual abductees themselves might be
encouraged into capitulating their will over to the Greys through
alien deception and trickery. However the 'open door' might also be --
as in the case of a child -- a result of a 'foothold' the aliens have
established in the minds of a parent, a religious leader, or political
leader in whom the child trusts... someone who HAS surrendered parts
of their body, mind or spirit to the alien influence. For instance a
parent might buy the lie that the Greys are benevolent 'space
brothers', a religious leader could accept the lie that they are
'angelic beings', a politician might see them as an other-planetary
political force that must be appeased and negotiated with at all
costs, and so on. From these people, the influence might 'trickle
down' to the children under their care. This would explain why
generational abductions seem to be occurring in many families over
many generations.

We must remember that alone however, a typical Gray is not nearly as
intelligent as a human being. Their overall intelligence comes from
the alien group or collective mind, since they operate as part of a
'hive' type of mentality. Some believe that this group-mind is, in
turn, controlled by invisible entities associated with the fallen
angelic factions which have since ancient times been incarnating
through the reptilian races for the purpose of using these entities as
physical 'channels' through which they are able to carry out their
purposes in the physical domain. This may explain why the Grays have
knowingly and blatantly lied to abductees and attacked traditional
spiritual belief systems by making such claims as the following: "We
genetically created the human race" [the result, we must acknowledge
them as our 'gods']; or, "We created Jesus Christ" [this is
interesting, especially when we consider that Jesus of Nazareth
verbally blasted and condemned the 'serpent' race as being in league
with Satanic forces, on more than one occasion]; and in the case of
Todd's experience... that he was a "Chosen One". Thousands of
abductees have been told that they are the supreme spokesperson for
the aliens on earth, or specially chosen for some mission. In other
words they gain their followers the same way Adolph Hitler did -- by
stroking their egos: "YOU ARE THE MASTER RACE," etc., etc., ad
nauseum. And it would seem that in the same way that many 'religious'
leaders claim to be the SOLE spokesman for God on earth -- these
contactees, abductees or mediums consider themselves to be the sole
voice of the aliens. I would suggest that you do not respect any HUMAN
who claims to be the 'sole spokesman' of God, not unless they are able
to back up their claims by living a perfectly FLAWLESS life. All of
this has contributed to the overall division and animosity which
exists among various UFO research groups. Playing on human ego's is
apparently a time-tested and very effective way for the Grays to gain
the trust and cooperation of humans on, within or beyond the planet
earth.

Following are additional experiences that were related by Todd J,
beginning with an incident that occurred while he was still a child.
While looking through UFO books in a school library in Sunbury,
Pennsylvania, Todd experienced a disturbing flashback:

"...I came across a drawing of an alien made by a little boy who said
he saw one in his back yard. It was the exact same thing I saw in [a]
dream when I was little, it shocked me so much that I immediately
closed the book and left the library. "Then it started to happen, at
night I would always have a strange feeling of being watched while I
slept. Sometimes the FEAR became so intense that I couldn't sleep,
which would result in me sleeping-in the following morning and
skipping school. Then the weird stuff started. I began to wake up at
night and see balls of light floating around in the darkness and I
couldn't move, so I just closed my eyes. Then one night I got up to go
to the bathroom and for some reason I felt I needed to go look in my
brother's room. When I looked in I saw that face in the window, the
big black eyes, the round head and slanted chin. It freaked me out
because we lived in a two story house. I ran to my room and hid under
the blankets.

"The following nights I would pray about it and asked God to protect
me. Then as I laid in bed after everyone was asleep I started to hear
buzzing from outside the window. An extreme fear came over me and I
couldn't move and I couldn't yell for my parents. An eerie green light
started to fill my bedroom from outside and then I would somehow just
wake up the next morning not remembering anything after the green
light. I would usually have a severe headache, a sore throat, or feel
extremely tired and drained of all my energy.

"After about three or four nights of this I knew it would probably
happen again, and it did. This time I prepared myself... When the
green light entered the room, my body was paralyzed. I tried to call
upon Heavenly Father to cast it out of my room but I could not speak,
my jaw was really tight. So I prayed in my head when all of a sudden I
saw that the wood-grain on my bedroom door appeared to be forming into
the face of man with a beard and long hair. I thought it was Jesus
Christ. Then a bright white light came from above me and chased the
green light away. As soon as this happened I had control of my body
and I immediately pulled the covers over my head, I had no idea that
God would actually do such a great thing. I then heard a voice which
was so calm and loving saying to me 'You are safe now Todd, you may go
back to sleep.' And I peeked through the blankets and saw a man in
white clothes standing beside my bed. I was still a little frightened
but I felt peace and that the terror was over...for now.

"...It was the Thanksgiving of 1992, my grandmother and uncle had come
up for Thanksgiving dinner and to spend the day with us. During the
day my grandmother started talking to me about aliens for some reason
and I started telling her of the things I had seen when I was little.

"Then that night I remember being awaken by a noise, I first noticed
that my computer monitor was reflecting a bright green light and then
my whole room was filled with a bright green light. My first thought
was, 'Oh no, they're back!' Then I again was paralyzed as it had
happened to me when I was twelve. I was looking out my bedroom window
and I stared face to face with a gray alien. There were two more
behind him. I tried to yell but again my jaw was tight and my tongue
was stiff. It just looked at me with those scary big black eyes liked
it looked into my soul. I felt evil and fear, I am surprised I did not
release my bowels! Then the light consumed me and I was drawn out of
my bed into the light. While this was happening I was praying in my
head and all of a sudden I was walking down the street in front of my
house with an angel.

"This angel was a magnificent looking man. He was about seven feet
tall and the bright white light around him was as pure as freshly
fallen snow and it radiated about the entire front yard like a morning
sunrise. His face was gentle and happy and his eyes looked at me
lovingly. His whole countenance was just amazing beyond description.

"He placed his hand upon my shoulder and pointed toward the house. I
looked over to my bedroom window and saw the three beings still at my
window hovering above the ground in a bright green beam of light which
seemed to be coming from nowhere. The angel stayed by my side and
protected me. I tried to cast the small gray aliens away with my
priesthood but they were still there (Todd at this time was a member
of the Mormon religion, and tried to respond to these 'evil' creatures
according to how he had been 'taught'. - Branton). I was so angry, the
things that had made my life miserable since I was a child now there
within my view, and I saw how weak they were, how small. And I thought
'These beings are so small, yet their power is enough to stop me in my
tracks.'

"But this time I was FREE, this time I could harm them and I did. I
ran to one and grabbed it by the neck and started to strangle it. I
could feel its spine coming through the back of its neck as it let out
a horrible screeching noise.

"They were not very tall, only about four feet high -- but they
hovered in this light up to my height until they were next to my face.
Their skin was like a reptile's, cold and leathery. Their damn eyes
got to me the most... big black liquid eyes, just two holes for a nose
and barely a mouth, just a slit. Their bodies were not very
proportional as ours are. Their arms hung down a little past their
knees, and their heads seemed too large for their neck to support it.

"The angel just stood by as I went into a rampage and killed all three
of them. They were so fragile. The angel smiled as if I had done the
right thing. And we then proceeded to lay the dead bodies on the lawn.
I watched the green light fade away and saw no light except the
brilliant radiance of the angel's. The angel knelt down at the bodies
which seemed to be changing from gray into a sick yellowish color. I
watched as the angel opened his robes and unsheathed a golden sword
and began to cut away the tops of the beings' heads and their brains
came out in an upper and lower section.

"The angel arose and spoke, 'Behold, they are nothing to us. They are
nothing but creatures of evil.' Then a blue light or conduit from the
sky actually transported them into small balls of light and took them
away. So I have no evidence that I actually killed them. We, the angel
and I then entered the house, and in the kitchen were three more
aliens. One came up to me with a long shiny metal rod that seemed to
have a laser beam coming out it. The alien stuck it in the left side
of my neck and it stung really bad and then I could not move, so the
angel touched me and I could move again. I then immediately punched
the alien square in the face breaking its neck and killing it
instantly. The other two stood by looking at their fallen comrade --
their moves were very quick and their heads rotated almost as fast as
a lizard. The angel held up his arms and spoke. 'In the name of Jesus
Christ I command you to depart.' Then both the creatures immediately
fell to the floor and these gray aliens were again taken up into a
beam of light in the same manner as before.

"Then the angel covered my eyes and then uncovered my eyes. I was all
of a sudden on top of a large mountain looking down over a large
valley FILLED with aliens and strange looking humans and their
spacecraft. Then I saw hundreds of people dressed in white walking on
the mountain with us as if they had come to watch. And then a voice
from heaven said 'Behold, these evil ones have perverted the ways of
the Lord and deceived many and fornicated with my children. They shall
have no place in my kingdom nor in this world to come.' Then a FIRE
came down from the sky and CONSUMED all the beings and all the strange
human[oids] and all the UFOs and nothing was left. The angel then
spoke saying I had seen enough and he again placed his hand over my
eyes. I awoke from my bed and it was morning.

"Later in that year even in the same month I noticed a scar in the
shape of a circle that I never had before. I couldn't recall how it
got there but one day when my mom asked me how it got there I had a
flashback of when the alien stuck that silver rod in my neck. Now I
had proof that I've seen them!

"On this SAME NIGHT of November 22, 1992, there was a UFO crash on
Long Island, New York which was supposedly shot down by the government
with a plasma cannon. I have seen the pictures of the small gray alien
captured at the crash site and it was exactly the same type that
abducted me."

Note: All of this brings to mind the controversy over the 'material'
aspects of UFO encounters vs. the 'supernatural' aspects. It would
seem from the above, as well as from other sources, that the 'Greys'
for instance are both physical as well as supernatural beings... or
rather malevolent spirit-entities utilizing or possessing physical
alien 'bodies'. In a sense you could say that the same holds true
about humans themselves: we are physical-soular-spiritual beings, we
possess 'blood plasma' which contains both physical AND spiritual
essence -- which may be why the Greys are so interested in human
'blood' by the way.

Although traditional 'Greys' have a strong collective mentality in
addition to a [gross] spiritual and physical nature, they have no
'soul'. Since supernatural forces play a major part in alien
operations against humans on earth, humans must develop their
SPIRITUAL defenses as well as their intellectual and physical
defenses, since the Greys attack on all three levels of our beings
through what might be described as a form of psychotronic techno-
sorcery.

One must be careful not to open oneself to their influences however.
There is a growing number of quantum physicists who are beginning to
realize that there is a 'spiritual' side to science. At the lowest sub-
atomic levels the physical laws of 'logic' seem to break down into
what might be referred to as 'etheric' or 'spiritual' laws that do not
necessarily apply to physical laws, or what many spacefaring cultures
refer to as 'Divine Geometrics' or the 'laws of spirit' at work behind
the 'laws of physics'. So it is difficult to find where the
electromagnetic realm ends and the etheric realm begins. This is the
very basis of the OCCULT TECHNOLOGY that is being developed within the
Dulce base, it is SUPERNATURAL TECHNOLOGY, a deadly form of Techno-
Sorcery. This who attempt to resist the Greys will soon discover that
the conflict they have become involved with is not just a spiritual
one, and not just a physical one, but a warfare that is in fact a
FUSION of material and spiritual realities.

Most people do not realize that our modern 'science' has largely
developed from the occult-sciences of the past, or the 'Alchemists'.
So who can say exactly where science ends and the supernatural begins?
Apparently at least with much of the UFO phenomena, the exact
distinction may be very hard to find. Does this mean that technology
and the supernatural are 'evil'? Not necessarily, for the physical
'forces' of the universe and the supernatural 'forces' of the universe
can be used by our physical and spiritual natures respectively for
either good or evil. Being that we are of a spiritual-psychic-physical
nature, we as humans possess abilities that we can not begin to
understand. In this cosmic battle there are no 'neutral' forces. In
other words we can NOT utilize these spiritual-psychic-physical
abilities in a 'neutral' way or believe that we are in ultimate
control of these abilities ourselves, since there are intelligence's
which are so powerful in this universe that to them we appear as mere
'pawns' who can be manipulated for their own use. The important thing
is not for the pawn to 'realize its own pawnhood', but for each of us
to consider which 'player' has our best interests at heart. I
definitely believe that one of the 'players' is much more benevolent
than anything we can imagine, and the other is far more malevolent
than anything we can conceive. I believe that we must DECIDE which
side of the cosmic battle we will serve, and this all comes back to
the old fundamental reality that we have known all along: will we
commit our spiritual-psychic-physical abilities to 'God' [good] or to
the 'Devil' [evil]? To the Almighty, who desires to establish a
universe of perfect harmony, order, truth and love; or to the
collective rebel angels and their alien 'puppets' who desire only to
devour and consume everything around them like the 'spiritual black
holes' that they are?

There are more and more reports coming my way, like the one that
appears above, which strongly suggest that in spite of the physical
and tangible aspects of many of the aliens [Greys, Reptiloids, etc.],
the true powers that must be contested are the motivating supernatural
entities which possess and incarnate many if not most of these
soulless 'aliens', simply because at some point in the past these
'aliens' themselves submitted to the complete control of these
supernatural beings. They rejected the universal law of respecting the
Divinely-established sovereignty of other beings, whether on an inter-
planetary, inter-national or inter-personal basis. In violating the
sovereignty of others they themselves lost their own personal
sovereignty, liberty or independence. They chose to ally themselves
with members of a collective 'hive' mind which assured them that it
was right to violate the sovereignty of other beings, and that it was
logical for the 'collective' to assimilate all things under its
control even if the individuality of those assimilated was all but
destroyed. So in joining with a force which advocated the conquest of
other 'sovereignties', they in turn forfeited their own.

Will our human race be the next race to be 'assimilated' by these
astral parasites and the corrupted physical alien races under their
control? I believe the decision is entirely and individually up to us.