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On May 31, 12:17 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet
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On May 30, 3:09 pm, Benj <bjac...@iwaynet.net>
wrote:
On May 29, 3:44 pm, UFOchick
<ufoch...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Proof: Debunkers do NOT, I repeat, do NOT have a
soul.
Are they
"zombies" - the answer has to be a definitive YES.
Make
that Yes
Sirree Bob! Should debunkers be expunged from THIS
ISLAND EARTH,
again, the answer is obvious. YES! Should debunkers
be
rounded up,
thrown in a FEMA Death® camp and summarily executed
with extreme
prejudice, the answer is most obvious! Let us start
with the
debunkers on this newsgroup. Will each and every one
of you turn
yourselves in RIGHT NOW? All the good people can say
is "thanks in
advance" - that will save us a lot of trouble. Now
please forward a
list of all debunker sympathizers, debunker
apologists, debunker
supporters, debunker enablers, friends of debunkers
and
friends of
friends of debunkers. They must all be considered a
GRAVE THREAT to
our institutions and civilization. To the debunkers
all we can say
that it has NOT been nice knowing you, and we will
NOT
miss you, but
you will be remembered for trying to destroy society
from WITHIN!!!!
We simply could not allow that to happen.
Debunkers: try and have a good week because ALL the
world is uniting
against the debunkers!! A BRAVE NEW WORLD is upon us,
a
world of
liberty, justice and NO debunkers. Does this sound
like heaven on
Earth, YES INDEED!!!
NOPE!!
It sounds like you are some kind of liberal asshole.
THIS ISLAND EARTH?
A BRAVE NEW WORLD?
Yep! A complete liberal asshole.
So Holeflapper, stick it in your ass.
I am sorry I had to "out" your spOOky connections,
Borsch, but
somebody has to stand up for patriotism, liberty and
freedom, and it
isn't YOUR KIND!
So Holeflapper, what part of "stick in your ass" don't
you understand?
H.
"H"eroin, you are slipping, BIT TIME. At least a few years ago you
attempted to make logical sense, those days are over I guess. A bit
of old-timers disease have overtaken your brain. I DID predict this,
it happens to ALL debunkers and their ilk. I guess it probably
happened a long time ago but we didn't want to see it, but now it is
beyond obvious. You are literally brain-dead, hey, but so was Raygun,
and that was before Bush's buddy took a pot-shot at him, but that's
another story, isn't it!!
On Coping with the 'Visitors':
Passing Through the Fear Barrier to Greater Understanding of the
Experience
Email Correspondence with an Experiencer
J.A. Bjornson, Editor and DEBBIE
Dear 'Abductees' Anonymous,
I think maybe I need help. If someone is available tonight, please e-
mail
me. Or maybe tomorrow.
Thanks! -- DEBBIE
Dear 'Abductees' Anonymous,
Thanks for replying. Had to go out of town for awhile today, so I'm a
little
late getting back with you. I'm expecting my wife back in a few
minutes, so
I have to keep this pretty short.
Nutshell: Have recollections (hundreds) from early childhood up until
a few
months back about the little sons of bitches that keep coming in my
house.
Jerry, I am NOT crazy. I am one of the most stable, rational people I
know.
I work as an editorial assistant, editing technical papers for the
state, I
have a wonderful wife and a really GOOD life. But I am somewhat
nonplussed
because as far back as last year I have woken up -- I mean REALLY
WOKEN UP,
as in FROM BEING ASLEEP -- found myself unable to move a muscle. I was
able
to see the little bastard right next to me. I wanted to shout at him,
I
wanted to wring his scrawny little neck. If I could have I would have
killed
him/her (I think it was a him), but he put this metal rod over my
forhead,
touched me, and images flooded my head. My wife is here now, more on
that
later. I'm not coming apart over this. I'm not over the edge, I just
want
them to stop.
Anyway, thanks. Will e-mail you again later. Thanks. -- DEBBIE
Dear 'DEBBIE',
Yes, I know you want them to stop and perhaps I can help you
accomplish
that. But it won't be easy.
It's good that you have come to terms with the reality of the
experience.
You know you are not dreaming, that this is very REAL.
You must accept the fact that there is nothing you can do to control
the
experience. Accept the fact that these 'Greys' are part of your life,
and
have been since early childhood. I know you're mad as hell and don't
want to
take it any longer, but for your own sanity, your marriage, your
career,
your life -- you must get past the anger and understand the fear.
Has this 'alien' being hurt you? Sure it has scared you, but has it
hurt you
in any way? You want to kill the "little bastard" just because it
scared you
by coming into your bedroom? "Wring his scrawny little neck?" The next
time
you get a 'visitor', why not just calm your mind and think positive
thoughts. I'm perfectly serious about this, G***. Just try it and see
what
happens. When 'it' shows up again, allow yourself to feel the fear but
force
yourself to think good thoughts. Any good thought will do.
Lay there still and watch 'it' as you think good thoughts. Your anger
(fear
response) will subside. Try to make your positive thoughts stronger.
Watch
'it' as you make your good thoughts stronger. If you can't bring
yourself to
think something positive, just don't think 'hurtful' ones. OK?
I would strongly suggest you read Whitley Strieber's latest book,
"Breakthrough". It will really help you better understand what's going
on.
Keep us posted on your progress. -- Editor
Dear 'AA',
Yes to goosebumps. I feel them whenever they are around. Also, I begin
hearing differently. Almost hollowly... -- DEBBIE
Good, now let's get on with communicating. The 'goosebumps' are some
sort of
electro-magnetic energy field we are feeling. As to your 'hearing
differently', this is quite true. Sometimes it's almost like a 'shroud
of
silence' is put around your head, almost shutting off normal hearing.
Most
certainly, distorting it. You may also experience the constant ringing
in
your ears that intensifies for a brief moment. Also, just before
falling
asleep you may feel vibrations, sometimes at the back of your neck or
head,
like having a running electric razor pressed against the back of your
neck
or head. Also, you may experience a tight band of needle-like
sensations
tightening across your forehead, breaking out into a cold sweat,
getting
sick to your stomach. Other physical indications include heart
skipping a
beat or two, or racing suddenly. Panic/anxiety attacks for no apparent
reason. A feeling of being out of sync with time. Waking up with a
'metallic' taste in your mouth. Or with nose-bleeds. Or with scars,
bumps,
bruises, rectal bleeding, rashes, or the like. These are just SOME of
our
physical reactions to the phenomona. I recommend you read "The Omega
Project" by Kenneth Ring, Ph.D. which is an excellent study and goes
into
this more. -- Editor
I also begin to feel that every thought that I'm thinking, every
action I
commence is somehow orchestrated. I catch myself thinking like this
and try
to do something "spontaneous" or out of character that will break that
particular frame of reference, only to realize that that too is
orchestrated
or "controlled" by someone else. -- DEBBIE
What you say here is very, very true. Real-time stuff! We are being
'directed' and it feels like 'controlled'. You have free will, still,
so use
it to help yourself understand more. You are NOT being controlled by
some-ONE else. You are being CHANGED by some-THING else! So, the next
time
you feel it start, immediately communicate to 'IT' that you are afraid
of
'IT' and that if 'IT' doesn't help you to understand what's going on,
you
may die from this fear. Ask 'IT' to help you get through this fear.
Ok? (I'm
deadly serious here, DEBBIE. 'IT' destroyed my life 25-years ago and
caused
me to lose my wife and three children who I haven't seen since because
my
fear of 'IT' almost drove me crazy back then). I only mention this
because I
don't want the same thing to happen to you. And it will unless you get
'IT'
to help you, and 'IT' will!!! You say you a Catholic, well, pray to
Mary,
Mother of Jesus, for protection from anything evil. Since 'IT' isn't
evil,
good and evil being an individual perception placed upon 'IT', it
won't
matter. But it will make you feel better to have Her, and the Holy
Ghost,
with you the next time you are visited. -- Editor
For some time I thought I was paranoid, until I found a tag. Then the
memories from my childhood began resurfacing, then it ALL started
coming
back to me. Then, and this is the clincher, I woke up one night, I
mean
FULLY awake, but couldn't move, and one of the bastards (I could see
"him"
peripherally)...-- DEBBIE
'They' always are seen first out of the corner of your eye. Why?
Nobody
knows. 'They' seem to enter our dimension this way. -- Editor
It had a "wand" over my head. I couldn't move a muscle. I tried with
everything I had in me to move, but still couldn't. I tried to scream.
I
wanted to reach out and grab its neck and strangle it. But it touched
the
center of my forehead with the wand and light exploded inside my head.
That's when it started feeding me about a billion images. From that
point on
I took a major step. But now I think I've taken two steps backward...
--
DEBBIE
The fear is what's keeping you from progressing. I am still afraid,
after
hundreds of encounters going back over 60-years. Fear is Ok if you
don't let
it turn to panic and rule your life. This is easy for me to say, and
will be
very hard for you to overcome. Again, the next time you feel 'their'
presence, tell them to please help you overcome the fear. State
loudly,
scream outloud if it helps, "I AM AFRAID OF YOU. MY FEAR OF YOU
HINDERS OUR
COMMUNICATION. YOU MUST HELP ME OVERCOME THIS FEAR, NOW!!!" Bottom
line:
'They' will. -- Editor
I'll sincerely try your advice. Thanks (I mean it)...-- DEBBIE
I know, DEBBIE. Just follow my advice about getting some sleep, giving
up
stimulants, etc. You're going to be OK. All of this will get easier as
you
work with 'them' and me. The "blast' you received with what I
affectionately
call their 'magic wand', is recorded in your subconscious mind. All
the
knowledge you need to understand what's happening to you is available
to you
when you calm down enough to go inside yourself for the answers.
Meditation
helps. I will walk you through an effective technique once you calm
down and
have regained those 'two steps backwards'.
Take care, and let me know how you're doing on a day-to-day basis. --
Editor
Dear 'AA',
Okay, I will take all of your advice STARTING TONIGHT. Right now my
wife and
I are sitting in our living room listening to the American Music
Awards. But
later, after the animals are fed, I am going to try a little
meditation,
maybe a little self post-hypnotic (the only way I have been able to
sleep so
far). Before I drift off to sleep I will feel for the signs of them.
I'll
try to communicate the way you have told me.
Here is an interesting story that (I believe) is related. About eight
years
ago, when I was still living in at my mom and dads, I was sleeping in,
very
late in the morning because it was my day off work. I had come
downstairs
and plopped down on my folks bed. By this time they were gone off to
work. I
was sleeping on my side at the edge of the bed, facing an open window
on to
our back yard. It was full sunlight out, or at least was when I woke
up.
This is what happened. I woke up and was eye to eye with this
creature, and
I couldn't move a muscle. My vision was likewise affected because it
looked
kind of "phased". I'm not quite sure what that means, but bear me out.
I was
scared out of my mind. As in the later experience I tried to scream
out, but
nothing came. All of a sudden it was gone and my arm was stabbing out
for it
at lightning speed where it "had" been. There was a still an
afterimage of
it that my hand passed through. I knew it was "real" on some level.
Maybe
not completely physical, but, IT WAS REAL. Because it was full
daylight, I
didn't exactly equate it with the few childhood "images" of the little
munchkin guys walking past my bedroom window (another house, another
town).
During the munchkin experience I was five years old. I had never seen
a
movie before, had never bought a comic book, so there was no
possibility of
"contamination" from my everyday life. We didn't get a tv until the
summer
of that year when they made the first moon shot. They have been in my
family
for a long time.
I'll talk to you later. Thank you so much for listening to me, and for
understanding. I'm sorry that they destroyed your family. I won't let
them
do it to me, whatever happens. -- DEBBIE
Hello, DEBBIE,
How did it go last night? A couple of things. First, you must stop
trying to
fight them. The impulse to strike out at them is instinctive, but you
must
learn to control this fear reaction. There's a great irony here. They
are
more afraid of us than we are of them! Try to think any positive
thoughts
about them when they are near.
Second, it wasn't them that destroyed my life and my family. It was
how I
handled the situation. Knowing nothing about the 'visitor' experience,
I let
a harmless 'apparition' (hooded monk-like being) drive me crazy with
fear.
Like you, I simply did not know how to handle what was happening to me
at
the time. Since then (over 30-years later) living and investigating
the
experience has provided many answers. I still don't know ALL the
answers,
but enough to help you get through your fear to where you can come by
yourself to a better understanding of what is going on.
It is impossible for me to give you the "bottom-line" of the
experience,
because you will never believe it. It is a truth you must come to
realize
for yourself.
I appreciate your cooperation, and know you will be alright soon. --
Editor
Hello again, DEBBIE
I'm really glad you got some sleep. Take another look at your writing
below.
It's coherent for the first time. I'm beginning to think there's hope
for
you after all (just kidding). -- Editor
Yes! They are hooded monk-like beings. That first apparition that I
struck
out at was too much like a Jawa from Star Wars, ESPECIALLY the eyes.
--
DEBBIE
I know several people in the movie industry who are also going through
what
we are experiencing. The 'Jawa' was, no doubt, modeled after the real
thing!
-- Editor
Last night I drifted off about 2:00 a.m. I went through a prayer to
Mary,
three Hail Marys, and a light post-hypnotic. However, the fear in me
is very
deep-seated. I awoke while they were here (but I couldn't see them) at
about
4:00 a.m. No. I SNAPPED awake. My wife has described this "snapping"
into
full consciousness as Hyper-Startle Syndrome and that it is just
another
symptom of PTSS. She doesn't, however, believe that... -- DEBBIE
This "snapping" back into consciousness is not a symptom of PTSS, it's
your
etheral body (being) being dropped back into your human body. Quite a
bit
like waking suddenly from a "falling dream" with your heart pounding.
You
are being DROPPED BACK by an external source. 3-4 AM is usually when
the
events occur. -- Editor
...there are any extra-terrestrial influence here. I tend to think of
it as
"extra-dimensional" influence. -- DEBBIE
Yes, she is right. It IS "extra-dimensional". Strieber calls it "a
hyperconscious state". Others like Valle, "multi-dimensional". No
matter
what the name, the place is the same. -- Editor
Anyway, I tried to communicate that my fear was very deep, and that it
was
interfereing with "our" communication. I then tried a deeper post-
hypnotic,
and drifted off to sleep. I SLEPT TIL 5:00 P.M. TODAY. I woke up with
a
severe headache (still have a slight one) and I had to go clear the
dust
from my throat. It seems that every morning I awake I have a dark
viscous
substance adhering to the back of my tongue. Gross. I blame it on bad
health, in general. Also, the dark circles under my eyes are very
prominent
upon awaking. -- DEBBIE
It's not bad health, DEBBIE, not even tired blood. You are really
getting
"beat up" by these beings, meaning all the gross medical corrective
procedures, slamn-dunked in and out of your body, etc. The dark
circles are
just from the lack of sleep. New advice: Start drinking water by the
gallons. A quart even hour or so. Do NOT drink anything with caffine,
especially chocolate (sorry). You have to help your body heal from the
corrective procedures you are undergoing. Also, (you'll probably hate
this
one)-- stop eating ALL meat or dairy products immediately! (I'm not a
vetetarian by nature, it was forced upon me too). Our basal metabolism
is
being changed and we must assist in any way we can. If in doubt what
you
should eat, eat only that which grows out of the ground. Within a week
or
two, you will be complaining you sleep TOO MUCH! -- Editor
I am convinced that the bottom-line will come only when I am ready for
it,
and, to be sure, I'm not really sure I want to find out the "bottom-
line."
As I said, I am a seeker of truth. But what I am looking for, I think,
is MY
truth. I'm not sure what that means, but it means something. -- DEBBIE
Yes, DEBBIE, you are right. Unfortunately, most people can't even
begin to
even consider this truth as a viable possibility. You are intelligent
enough
to learn, and sound determined enough to see it through to the end.
Good for
you! Then you will be in a position where you can help others like
ourselves. That is our "mission". -- Editor
About the images and the wand: when "he" hit me with the wand, I told
you it
was like a billion images exploding into my mind. In one of the images
the
earth was small, remote, small enough to fit into the palm of my hand.
--
DEBBIE
Like viewed from space? -- Editor
I was able to encompass all information that pertained to the earth,
and all
that pertained to me IN THE WORLD, past, present, and future. I know
that
sounds crazy. Then it was like a light-speed slide show. I saw myself
in the
future, and was somehow an integral component in the destiny of man
(or
humanity). Most of the images I don't remember, but I do remember them
flooding through me, and I also remember that I would always carry
this
"knowledge" inside me. -- DEBBIE
Yes, now you're getting closer. These "blasts" take MONTHS to
assimulate
from our subconscious mind into something we can really remember, and
use.
Start drawing any of these gestalts. Start a journal if you haven't
already.
Like a dream, the memories are so elusive. Concentrate on your memory
of
'somehow being an integral component in the destiny of man...' Try to
visualize what you are? What you look like? Recover the memory if you
can.
-- Editor
Jerry, I am a very unique individual. As you know, I do have a
"well-developed" ego, but the irony is I also know my place, and that
place
is miniscule in the great scheme of things. However, I am also
somewhat of
an enigma to myself. As you know, I am Catholic, yet I am also a
Freemason,
which is also somewhat ironic due to the antagonistic history of those
two
institutions towards each other. Also, while I believe in God, Jesus,
and
especially the Holy Spirit, I also embrace my own "concepts" of
reincarnation, and past-life memory. Some would call me a hypocrite
for
believing both, but I do not believe they are mutually exclusive. --
DEBBIE
I would put your church work and your Freemason activites on hold for
the
time being. The phenomona is beyond religion although most religions
have
incorporated bits and pieces of the truth. As soon as you become aware
of
yourself as your "soul" or "spirit", you will know what I mean. --
Editor
Also, since I was about 15 years old, I began teaching myself how to
see
auras. Hope this isn't turning you off in a major way. But I can see
auras
when I look for them. -- DEBBIE
It would surprise me if you DIDN'T!. -- Editor
Also, I've always known that one day I would be in politics in a major
way.
My social-animal abilities are very finely honed, and I can get along
in a
crowd, and I can speak with engaging authority before groups. My
background
is very diverse. I took speech, acting, and debate in high school, and
some
in college. Skills that a politician requires. Also, I converted to
Catholicism two years ago and even taught RCIA last year for those
interested in becoming Catholics. It may appear that there is no
pattern
here, but there is! I recently learned that Texas is becoming largely
Catholic. By the year 2010 the state will be 65% Catholic. That means
that
soon we will have a largely Catholic state house and a CATHOLIC
GOVERNOR!
When I learned that I immediately connected this fact with my "images"
and
the path I seem to be going down. -- DEBBIE
We are being directed. Your strong sense of "ego" comes from being
more than
human. You have extra-ordinary skills. Telephatic and psi abilities.
Ever
feel that you aren't like everybody else? Different from birth
somehow?
Above average IQ? Look deep inside yourself, DEBBIE. Ask yourself a
thousand
times, "Who am I?" The next time you go into hypnotic trance, ask
these
questions. Deepen the trance until your body is completely asleep,
body
paralyzed but with mind awake. Focus on your breathing as you do your
countdown. Imagine yourself in an elevator. Feel your body going down,
down.
Deepen the trance until you can hold the mind awake/body asleep state.
Then
ask the questions, OK? -- Editor
...I know, it all sounds like rambling, and to some extent, maybe it
is. But
thanks, anyway for listening. I'm caught up on my sleep now and have
gone
off stimulants (48 hours now without coffee!) thanks to you, and I
believe I
see a light at the end of my particular tunnel. A week ago that tunnel
was a
sewer pipe, but now I'm rested, centered. DEBBIE
Excellent! If you get a headache from the caffine withdrawal, just
tough it
out or take a couple of aspirins. Are you on any medication? Our
bodies can
not tolerate the chemicals! -- Editor
Anytime you want to talk to me on the phone you can reach me at
[number
deleted]. If I'm not home, my computer turns on the phone message-
taker and
takes a message. Also, if you would be interested, I'd like to send
you a
copy of a couple of the books I have written.
Bye, Jerry. I have a lot of friends, but right now I think you're
probably
the best friend I've got.
Yes, DEBBIE, I know. Thank you. Now I'm the one getting emotional...
--
Editor
Dear 'AA',
Thanks for that last post. Yes, I can understand your emotion. You're
really
helping me.
About the books. These are fictional novels I have written, three
completed,
and three more in the works. One of them, perhaps my best, is about
wolves.
I didn't realize until after I started writing it that there are
parallels
between "Wolves In the Country" and Whitley Strieber's book (I know,
terrible title, but then again its not the cover, but what's
underneath that
counts), currently with Heron View Literary Agency, looking for a
publisher.
It's horror fiction! Remember "Wolfen"? -- DEBBIE
Yes, I would be most interested in reading your work. -- Editor
Also, I am already a vegetarian, but I have backslid lately (cheeses,
milk,
eggs) for both economic reasons and peer pressure (my wife). I stopped
eating meat about 1985, and my health soared. But now, I'm overweight,
overwrought, and in declining health. As of your first post to me,
I've gone
off the cheese and stuff, and have cut out all between meal munching.
Also,
I used to be an aspiring drinker (of alcohol), but that came to an end
when
I had a few very unpleasant drunks. My wife and I met when the chain
fell
off my bicycle while I was on the way to a bar! After a year and a
half of
courting, and a huge church wedding, I've all but stopped completely.
There
is something to be said for the institution of marriage! -- DEBBIE
Most definitely. My second wife, of 25-years, has provided the
stability I
needed to survive 'them'. She doesn't believe any of this stuff,
quoting
her, yet every member of her family including herself are
experiencers. Her
mother was hospitalized many times for losing it after seeing "lights
in the
sky" and "hearing voices", over my most strenuous objections. How many
others are being misdiagnosed? Millions, probably. -- Editor
Yes, Jerry, I have always thought myself "special". When I was a kid
living
in [deleted], Texas, my mom took me up to the school one morning while
it
was still dark out. It was the first day of school and I was going
from
Kindergarten to the First Grade. Anyway, she took me to the
principal's
office and the principal gave me a very extensive test. He showed me
hundreds of pictures, and asked me to tell him what each of the
pictures
were. It was not a Rohrscach test because these were real things. I
remember
distinctly (how many people do you know that can remember all the way
back
that far - I can remember things from when I was 2!) the picture of an
anchor (as in AVAST, WEIGH ANCHOR), a covered wagon, and other things.
I
thought I was being given the test because I was stupid. I couldn't
relate
well to the other kids. Often they could not understand me. I thought
the
problem was at my end. That maybe I was a Forrest Gump, or something.
I
wasn't until I was almost grown that I asked my folks about it, and
they
said that my intelligence level was far superior to any other kid in
the
school, but because there were no accelerated classes for me, and
because
they wanted me to have a "normal" life, I went all the way through
school
"normally". I am adverse to going to Mensa because 1) I am into my own
ego,
yes, but not only for myself, not to show off to others; and 2) I
can't
relate well to the Mensas I do know. To me they are boring. All the
"Hey, by
damn, I'm SMART!" stuff is too much. I have my own way in my own
little
world. I write books (the REAL height of egotism!). Yes, Jerry, I
think I'm
pretty bright, at least now. But that doesn't really MEAN anything,
except
that it gives me a little more insight in light of what's been going
on with
me since childhood (visitation).
Also, also, a bit off the subject now, when I was a kid I used to
compose
symphonies in my head while I was out swinging on the swingset. Later,
I
took violin in college and joined the orchestra. After a short time
there, I
left music behind because it did not fit in with my "destiny". Now,
I'm
composing music in my spare time (when I'm not writing to you), and
some of
it is the same old stuff. But, it's pretty good. -- DEBBIE
The parallels between your life and mine are amazing, but
understandable.
All the above doesn't surprise me at all. You and I fit the typical
profile
to a 'T'. I woke up suddenly one morning several years ago with the
compulsion to play the violin. No musical background whatsoever.
Couldn't
read a note. Rushed out and bought a used 'fiddle' and several months
later
joined the local symphony!!! I had heard "music" of the spheres in my
"dreams", frequencies between planets, mathematical relationships
expressed
in musical notation. Only the violin could come close to duplicating
that
sound that I needed to duplicate. Most of the old masters, the
oriDEBBIEl
writers of classical music, captured the "essence" of the sound,
especially
Bach.
The reason we turn to music is because we just don't have the language
to
describe the message. "Your words are a hinderance", the visitors told
Strieber. As a journalist, and freelance writer (now retired) -- I
struggle
with how to put it into WORDS so others like you can understand. The
'visitors' have told me to "show and tell", which took on a literal
meaning
when I acquired a computer and knew I had to publish a page. Not easy
for
someone who had NO computer skills last year! "Show 'n tell" also
means --
"keep the communication at an elementary level. -- Editor
I have a lot of questions for you, Jerry. I know that you cannot
answer all
of them, or maybe even some of them. Basically, these are questions
that I'm
really asking myself:
To what extent have all of the decisions that have brought me to my
current
path in life been directed by "them"? -- DEBBIE
ALL OF THEM! But this doesn't negate our free-will. Call it a gentle
(sometimes not so gentle) 'arm-twisting' of your subconscious, pulling
you
in a certain direction that sets up a 'chain-of-events'. To your ego
it
feels like you are in control. You can choose to do anything you want.
But
why do you choose only certain things out of an infinite number of
possibilities? If we follow our "intuitions" as opposed to our
emotions or
cognitive thinking processes, we are following "directions". But in
order to
really understand this, and know that it's true, you first must
experience
yourself as something other than "DEBBIE". Have you? A simple OBE
would do?
It would convince you beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are more than
what
we appear to be, that we are integrated being(s). As this aspect of
the
'alien' phenomona is my area of special research, and because I have
experienced myself on numerous occasions 'out-of-body', I know exactly
what
it feels like to become one's "soul" or "spirit" and to interact with
the
'visitors' in another time or place, here and now. I have experienced
myself
as a white, smoke-like presence drifting into my newborn baby-body,
goingthrough the wooden headboard of the crib, seeing with 360-degree
vision, going downinto the head of the baby. When asked by the
hypnotist how
it felt to be in the baby, to be the baby -- I reacted with anger, mad
as
hell for being trapped in this weak, white baby. I did not like it at
all!
When regressed back to the source of my anger, I suddenly found myself
reaching up to touch the face of a large 'Grey', who I called
Father!!! At
the moment my hands almost touched his face, I felt electric-like
impulses
charge throughout my body. I completely broke down, crying
uncontrollably,
for I KNEW it was true. I was one of them!!! Mind-boggling stuff for a
hard-headed Norwegian and objectively trained investigative reporter,
editor, and publisher of weekly newspapers.
So, getting back to your question, it's now obvious that this isn't
about
"them" vs. "us". If you can accept that you are one of "them", then
your
question is answered. But don't just take my word for it, read what
others
like ourself are saying on 'Abductees' Anonymous. One experiencer hit
it
right on: "TWO BUT ONE!" (Dual Identity). But duality, a 'dual'
nature, is
somewhat of an oversimplification of the phenomona. -- Editor
My "insights" and "images" lead me to believe that we (as a nation, a
race,
and a planet) are going to be in for some real trouble shortly after
the new
millenia begins. While I do not really count myself as a
milleniarianist
(sp?), I wonder if you or others have "seen" the same. Why me? --
DEBBIE
Many others like ourselves have been shown the same "dooms-day"
scenario,
and I would like you to write about your "insights" and "images" that
lead
you to believe something catastrophic is going to happen soon. I have
been
shown the earth breaking into two pieces, a giant black cloud
billowing up
from between the two halves, coming up toward the 'Ship' as we raced
away in
great haste. But in the very next instant, I saw a "newEarth" formed
out of
the black cloud-like thing, a 'golf-ball' sized round object encased
with a
white protective covering closing around this newly formed "planet-
like"
globe, almost like the oldEarth had given birth to a newEarth. I was
now on
the surface, holding hands with human-children, laughing, jumping
through
tall grass. The hand that these children held was that of a large
'Grey'!!!
"Why any of us?" -- Editor
There are other questions, but I'll wait 'til later. Also, I would
really be
interested in hearing some of your stories. I know, I know. You
probably
don't want to scare me with those yet! But, when the time comes, I'll
be
ready. -- DEBBIE
The 'scary part' is just about over for you, DEBBIE. -- Editor
Gotta go, now. Thanks, and God Bless. -- DEBBIE
In closing, and to pique your curiosity a bit more DEBBIE, there is a
'group
consciousness' involved here. Also, I would like your permission to
put some
of our discussions on the page so that those who also are having a
hard time
getting past the fear, will be able to benefit from our private, email
correspondence. Will delete any personal stuff. Only you will know
it's you.
OK? -- Editor
Dear 'AA',
It happened again last night. Specifically, this is what happened. My
wife
and I were lying in bed, talking into the wee hours of the morning
(2:00
a.m.). I had to get up and take a couple of tums for a little acid
reflux
I've been having. I decided to go ahead and lay down on the couch (we
have a
VERY comfortable new couch in our living room so as to give her a
chance to
nod off. I lay down, read about eight or ten pages of a paperback,
then,
before the words started to run together - which is my signal for
lights out
(although we always sleep with the lights on) - I closed my eyes. I
instantly became numb, first in the fingers, then spreading like
wildfire
throughout my body. Suddenly I was somewhere else and couldn't open my
eyes,
but - and here's the clincher - I was still FULLY AWAKE! Because of
our
recent correspondence, I knew what was going on! I kept say in my
mind:
((please please please I'm afraid, oh I'm afraid, please don't)) then
there
was this terrific mind-boggling pain in my abdomen (somewhat above my
stomach but below the sternum) and I tried to cry out. When crying out
didn't work I began communicating (?): ((please... it hurts hurts
bad))
because, oh God, it did hurt. All of ten seconds later I was snapped
right
back and I sat bolt upright. This experience REALLY REALLY happened to
me.
It's too much to believe, and yet I KNOW it is true. I am being
visited. My
"etheric" body IS being taken at night. Some kind of surgery is
occurring. I
must say that I don't like it. -- DEBBIE
You'd better come to the realization that this is REAL, and there's
not a
damn thing you can do about it. The stronger the ego, the harder it is
to
give up fighting and the false assumption that you are in control of
your
life. You're NOT! Control is an illlusion... -- Editor
You have talked about "corrective medical procedures" and "being
beaten up"
by these procedures. If I am now, or are becoming, something "more
than
human", I would like to know what it is? -- DEBBIE
In simple English, you are MORE than human. An integrated being, part
human
and part 'alien'. Your very soul is of an 'alien' nature. Your
subconscious
mind is of an 'alien' nature. You are more than what you think you
are. The
physical changes are necessary if we are to survive the coming
tranformation. We will be leaving soon (few years at best by all
indications). Many will survive this change from our present dimension
to
the other in full awareness of the process. Others will be changed and
never
know what hit them. -- Editor
I believe that I have also come to a major realization: it may not be
me,
specifically that is being changed so that I might fulfill some kind
of
destiny. It is something having to do with the race. With my genes. I
think
that we, as a race, are being altered, changed. But, it doesn't bear
out. --
DEBBIE
Wishful thinking, DEBBIE. No, it doesn't bear out from the images we
are
seeing. -- Editor
I am married now, as you know. Have been for five years. I'm 31. My
lovely
wife is 46 (she doesn't look it, she looks my age!). While we have
been
doing everything we can to get pregnant, it hasn't happened, and I
have just
about resigned myself to very large possibility that we will never
have
children. What, then, is the purpose behind this manipulation. If my
genes
don't continue, then why? The only rational possibility that I can see
is
that they are also taking my sperm for use elsewhere in their
continued
"experimentation" or program. But, somehow, I don't think that this is
the
case. I don't think they are taking anything from me. They are doing
something TO me. -- DEBBIE*
You are still locked into a "them" against "us" cold war mind-set. You
and
your genes will survive. This is not "experimentation". It is a
program to
save as many of us as possible before the whole world blows up. Be
thankful
you are astute enough to almost figure it out. When 'they' come again,
calm
yourself. CALM yourself. 'They' are not hurting you intentionly. You
yourself as 'alien', alter-ego if you wish, volunteered to be in the
shell
of a body you call "DEBBIE" before you were born. Now you're going to
go
back to where you came from. But your present body must be "tuned" for
the
trip.
All of this goes beyond bizzare. None of it seems possible. But you
KNOW it
is happening!!! Go with it!
You're frustrating me, DEBBIE. Your fear and your sense of self keeps
you
from figuring it out. Read everything on the page. You are not unique.
What
is happening to you is happening to thousands, if not millions of
others,
and every one of us experiences the similar symptoms. Many just don't
realize it because they've buried it so deep in their subconscious
mind.
Ignorance is bliss, they say. But the fact remains, we are being
biologically changed in preparation of a fascinating transformation.
Think of your 'visitor' as your Guardian Angel. Essentially, that's
what
"s-he" is. Again on the bright side, you would readily pay big bucks
for
these medical procedures here on Earth, paying through the nose for a
lot
more pain.
Did you get the message I sent this morning? No mention of it here?
And try
to relax! -- Editor
Dear 'AA',
My mail server was down for most of the day so I probably missed your
morning post. I'm sorry about the fear. It is very, very deep seated.
It is
a terror that I have had since childhood. I write horror fiction. It
is that
part of that is frightened, scared beyond belief that does it. I slept
with
the covers over my head until I was 12. TWELVE! So please, have
patience
with me. I have extemely vivid nightmares. Now I know where they come
from.
Please re-send this mornings mail to me. I think I probably need it.
About the world blowing up. I don't want to know. Not yet. Right now
it's
too terrible to face. I've known these changes were coming for a long
time,
maybe all my life. I remember one vivid image, almost like memory,
when I
was very small. In this image there were a few people with me:
friends,
survivors, I don't know. Anyway we were watching "the end of the
world"
right before our eyes. It was like sitting at an overlook on the hood
of
your car and watching a city getting blown up. It was very vivid and
it has
kind of defined my life. I've always known that I would be in that
very
situation one day, exactly how it was in that image
(dream/foresight/whatever).
Okay. I'll keep trying. Thanks for your help, and please, again, be
patient
with me. -- DEBBIE
Dear 'AA',
Thanks for re-sending this mornings post. It was, I think, perhaps the
most
important that you have sent by far. I think I can be calm now. I will
try.
It is quite a lot to assimilate, but I think I knew this all along;
you just
reaffirmed much of it for me.
I'm not averse to you using our posts if it will help others. I trust
your
judgement.
Jerry, I am kind of leery about going to a hypnotist myself. I know,
you
haven't told me I should. It's just, I'd like to find out more myself
first.
Last night was major buku REALITY. The implications are still settling
into
me. I will open myself up to them more.
I have so many more questions, but, right now, I need to assimilate
the
answers. The implications are that we have as short of time here as I
expected. I need to start putting my "house" in order. I need to work
on
getting back in top physical condition, while opening myself more to
this
experience. In my last post (this evening, before I received this
mornings
post) I told you about my fear. Now (as in right this minute) I can
see a
few ways that I can begin to defeat it. I have always had the ability
to
bring significant changes in my life when I put myself to it. What is
the
old saying: "I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul."
To a
very great extent, I believe this, and it has been a guide to my life.
Also,
another thing I need to do is get back into my spiritual life (not in
church, but in HERE [he says, pointing to his head]). What I mean is
that I
have always known about the mind-body-spirit connection. It has been a
long
time since I was able to travel in the astral, but over the last ten
years
it has been fear hindering me. Also, I'm going to take your advice
(TONIGHT!) and start keeping a journal, so that I can put down these
gestalts, these images and this knowledge that is given to me.
I leave the antagonistic behind me now. I am going to "become", now.
Become
the "person" that I know I am supposed to be. Open to the world,
loving
everything and everyone in it.
I have always been a lover of life, a bird-watcher, a sunset climber.
I feel
that with this new-found knowledge that I have an obligation to
something
higher than myself.
Whew! Anyway, I'll go back to the beginning and work it all out.
Thanks Jerry, God Bless You. -- DEBBIE
Dear DEBBIE,
You have just taken a giant step forward, congratulations! Take care,
Jerry.
-- Editor