Re: Extraterrestrial Physics & The USA Re: Why is everyone attacking artwholeflaffer?//Because debunkers are almost finished!!!!

On Jun 28, 8:11�am, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:

Howdy Holeflapper:

"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."<scie...@zzz.com> wrote in message

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On Jun 26, 6:30 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet



<c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
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On Jun 25, 6:54 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet
<c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
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d7ca2c2-dcb6-4283-a82d-330dae290...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com:

On Jun 22, 7:28 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet
<c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

<snippers>

Whine noted and ridiculed, sockboi.

Nixon was right, you and your kind should have
been aborted!!!

So fuck off, sockboi.

As predicted,

fArtie/Gary evades the topic of sockpuppetry.
And YOUR KIND evades the topic of what these
newsgroups are all about:
the ET presence and the debunkery that you and your
ilk spout. �One
day when the last debunker is eliminated from THIS
ISLAND EARTH, ALL
MANKIND will live in a BRAVE NEW WORLD of freedom,
democracy and
liberty. �That day is coming soon if the good people
have their way!!
HONEST RESEARCHERS have had enough of debunkerism and
debunkers, and
we are gearing up for the BATTLE AGAINST
TRUTH-TERROR. �I will once
again ask the General to ready the debunker-busting
bombs and the
bizmuth-magnesium anti-matter anti-time bombs to be
used against
debunker strong-holds! �Please give up now and turn
yourselves over to
the proper authorities. �If EARTH SHALL PREVAIL the
debunkers must be
expunged. �Time is running out because the debunkers
are regrouping.
As predicted, your kind has turned into potty-mouth
drooling
imbeciles, which I DID predict would happen!!


�> We've been over this: your CULT of DEBUNKERISM is no
longer welcome

here, and by here I mean THIS ISLAND EARTH!! �As
stated before, most
of the previous debunkers on this alien newsgroup are
gone, vanished,
deceased, suicided, or insane such as "H"eroin. �Now
I and getting
sick and tired of being sick and tired of your kind:
debunkers, useful
idiots and general schmoes!! �Pretty soon the
Dracoian-Crab Nebulian-
Reptilian-Earth People treaty will be finalized and
the debunkers days
will be short-lived. �It would be much much easier if
you just gave up
now and turn in a list of ALL debunkers, supporters,
sympathizers and
enablers. �Thanks in advance and good riddance!
This IS your last and only warning: march over to the
nearest FEMA
Death camp for enhanced interrogation techniques!


You are the one that should go to the "Death Camp".
If it was not for you conveyers of bunk there would be
no need for us "Debunkers".
"Debunkers" cannot debunk that which does not contain
bunk.
"Bunk" short for bunkum, nonsense, humbug or illiterate
drivel.
So Holeflapper, climb off your high horse and take a
big leap toward reality. �Your inability to argue the
point is noted.
Or in words you can understand "FUCK OFF".
You cannot even set up your PC to answer posts in the
prescribed manner.
Use your carats, dipshit.
You sir are a big flop.
H.


"H"eroin, I was sure we were rid of you and your kind.

You have already been outed as a spOOk, a most worthless one at that.
You have never debunked anything or refuted the massive amount of
evidence linking ETs to abductions, hybridization with humans, crop
impressions, animal mutilations, alien implants, back-engineering of
alien craft, thousands of trace cases in over 100 countries.

In fact, you never address the evidence and only make you and your
cult look even more silly than they probably are.

I guess when the Agency put you out to pasture, there really wasn't
much left to do.  They did dispatch Sagan in a very abrupt manner,
good riddance, even No-klass kicked the bucket, best thing he ever
did.

Here is a classic, well worth reading again.  I would like to say it's
been nice having you "H"eroin, but your drug-dealing CIA pals are not
welcomed here with civilized decent people.

Being a Debunker means never having to say you're sorry, or even
making a lick of sense!
Sage advice by John F. Schuessler

Debunkers: I have heard it said that the most frustrating and least
useful aspect of ufology is the machinations of the debunkers.
Debunkers are experts at the use of disinformation, misinformation,
and propaganda. They provide prosaic explanations for everything. If
the first story gets challenged, they simply generate another story
and do not even apologize for changing their position. No information
or data supplied by the ufologist is ever good enough for them. Truth,
honesty, ethics and things like that are foreign to their way of
operating because it might erode their position. They seldom do real
investigations.

Most of their explanations are canned and used over and over so that
they do not feel it necessary to do investigations. All this is very
frustrating to the ufologists that conduct extensive investigations,
record every little detail of a UFO incident, assemble statistics,
maintain vast databases, and probably most of all, respect the good
and honest witnesses who report their UFO incidents.

Perhaps it would help ufologists to deal with the debunkers if they
understood why the debunkers act in such a manner. This is best
described in The Argument Culture, a book by Georgetown University
professor Deborah Tannen. These machinations are an example of what
the cultural linguist Walter Ong calls "agonism" or "programmed
contentiousness." Agonism does not refer to disagreement, conflict, or
vigorous dispute. It refers to ritualized opposition.

Professor Tannen says: "The way we train our students, conduct our
classes and our research, and exchange ideas at meetings and in print
are all driven by our ideological assumption that intellectual inquiry
is a metaphorical battle. Following from that is a second assumption,
that the best way to demonstrate intellectual prowess is to criticize,
find fault, and attack." Further, she says: "Many aspects of our
academic lives can be described as agonistic. For example, in our
scholarly papers, most of us follow a conventional framework that
requires us to position our work in opposition to someone else's,
which we prove wrong.

The framework tempts, almost requires us to oversimplify or even
misrepresent others' positions; cite the weakest example to make a
generally reasonable work appear less so; and ignore facts that
support other's views, citing only evidence that supports our own
positions."

This approach "fosters a stance of arrogance and narrow-mindedness."
There is much more of value in The Argument Culture, but in these few
words, I believe Professor Tannen has clearly exposed the operating
technique used by most debunkers. With this information in mind, it is
fairly obvious that we are stuck with a continuing tirade by the
debunkers and it will continue until they all die off. They are unable
to change, they are
programmed to act as they do.

Fortunately, most ufologists have no desire to play the debunkers
game. Programmed contentiousness is viewed as dishonest, unfair and
unethical. It puts an end to exploring ideas, uncovering nuances,
comparing and contrasting different interpretations of a particular
work, and gaining a deeper and more accurate understanding of the
material. It kills the quest for open-minded inquiry.

Even knowing all of this, ufologists still allow themselves to be
stressed by the actions of debunkers. A good investigator is likely to
be provoked by a debunker's announcement that a certain UFO was
actually Venus when everyone knows that Venus was not visible at the
time. A debunker's demand for "all of your investigative files so I
can identify the UFO," is another provoking ploy. They play on your
ego by saying "I have never seen any credible evidence of a UFO,"
hoping you will try to provide some evidence that will convince them.
Will it convince them? No! Their debunker's pre-subscribed dogma will
not allow it. If all else fails, they will claim it is your
responsibility as an investigator to respond to their demands. Don't
fall for that ploy. Only you and the organization you represent can
define your responsibilities.

A formula for avoiding stress caused by the actions of the debunkers
is to follow industry's lead in looking for "value added" in any
interchange or effort. If there is nothing to be gained from
responding to them, then don't do it. Apply your energies where they
will make a difference. Don't play their game. It takes two to make a
game and if you do not respond to their provocation, then they do not
have a game. They lose and you are not stressed.