Re: Why We Fight Debunkers//Witnesses Assert They Saw Aliens at U.S. Bases

On Aug 21, 10:38�am, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:

"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."<scie...@zzz.com> wrote in message

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On Aug 20, 5:30 am, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:

"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers
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On Aug 17, 6:59 pm, The Chief Instigator

<patr...@io.com> wrote:

Chris Krolczyk <arfiend2...@gmail.com> writes:

On Aug 14, 3:40 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E.
Wholeflaffers
A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:

Yes, it WILL be discussed. Please fax your
coordinates to the
Octagon�, they need to forward you a
debunker-buster surprise

Your army of roaches isn't going to help
you, Artie. And posting the same screed
by Schuessler over and over again doesn't
say much for your debating skills, either.

-Chris Krolczyk

I don't think Herr Schei�kopf Wholeflaffers has
much
of a grip on anything
incidentally related with reality...

ALL MANKIND are getting sick and tired of stupid
debunker tricks�
(STDs). It is beyond time that we round them all up
and expunge them
from THIS ISLAND EARTH once and for all. Nobody will
ever be truly
free if a debunker is allowed to use their
truth-terrorism on the
public. We will have to put an end to their reign of
error!

How about it Holeflapper?
Has the Secret Service or the FBI been to see you
yet?
You do know that the president is a "debunker", he is
trying to debunk the "Health Care Bill" opponents and
you post right out in the open that debunkers should
be
expunged (eradicated?) I think it is against the law
to
threaten to kill POTUS. Hope you like your new home
at
Leavenworth, Kansas. Me I love what POTUS is doing
because he sure as hell won't get re-elected because
he
won't listen to the people. Pretty much the same as
you, Huh?


Again, NSA spOOk is talking nonsense, pretty much
true-to-form for
this USEFUL IDIOT! �ALL MANKIND are finally uniting
under the banner
of ANTI-DEBUNKERISM and World War D will soon commence.
When the
world is united once and for all, we will remember
those days when the
world was HELD HOSTAGE by the debunkers and their ilk.

Please remove yourself from these newsgroups "H"eroin,
and forward a
list of all known debunkers to the Hexagon�.

The battle is on for truth and justice and we know what
side the
debunkers are on, they are AGAINST everything good and
decent, and for
that we will defeat them! �This is why we fight UFO
debunkers and
their supporters, sympathizers and enablers.

So long Holeflapper it has been fun playing with you on
the NET. �I suppose that the folks at Leavenworth will
welcome a real genuine crazy, loon president
threatener. �So-long it's been nice to know you.
You do know that the FBI uses a big Cray Computer to
monitor all telephone and Internet traffic, right? �Is
that why you changed your tune from "eliminate and
dispose of" to "defeat them"?

H.


"H"eroin - your little gambit of threatening govt. officials is rather
silly, since YOU ARE ONE?  Yet another debunker "ploy" which we have
seen many many times.  Have the debunkers slipped to yet another low?
I will let the public decide.

Just in case there may be a new person here, let us go over the rules
of the debunker:

The 3 Golden Rules of the Debunker/Anyone Can Become One!--Even You!

     You've seen them on television talk shows, you've read them in
Parade magazine (hint-hint), now you would like to be one too.  Of
course we are talking about the fine art of "debunking".   You say you
don't have a science degree from Harvard or Stanford, no problem,
anyone can be a debunker.  Although real professionals make it sound
so easy, you can learn "right now" the skills of this noble
profession.  Discover the secrets in three easy-to-learn lessons.
Write them down and practice the instructions until they become second
nature, and even you can earn your "Degree" in de-bunkology.

     First off, why would you want to become a debunker?  It's simple,
really.  The other side has all the good evidence in their favor.
When you stack up the voluminous amount of exemplary "science" that
has been done on crop circles, animal mutilations, human abductions,
government cover-ups, crash retrievals, landing sites, artifacts,
implants, sightings, video analysis, . . . well you get the picture,
we can't really substantially argue against the data.  The amount of
really first-rate evidence is overwhelming in the positive for proving
the existence of extraterrestrial life interfacing with the planet
Earth.

     So we have to resort to the three "D's": deny, dispute and
debunk.  First "deny" there is anything there, when that fails, go to
"dispute" the facts, and then as a last resort: "debunk" everything.
It's easy and quite "necessary" really to maintain a functioning
society and avoid economic disintegration, which would certainly
follow the announcement of beings from other Planets regularly
visiting ours.  Many industries would become obsolete over-night,
including energy, transportation, chemicals and many more.  Free-
Energy alone would put the oil, nuclear, and coal industries out of
business.  Although that would be for the good for ALL mankind since
it would reduce the amount of global warming and ozone depletion that
these industries contribute to.

And now: the three Golden rules of the UFO debunker:

1) Attack the person not the evidence.  ---- As listed above, the
preponderance of evidence to establish the existence of
extraterrestrials and their other-worldly crafts is overwhelming.  So
instead of acknowledging the evidence, ATTACK the persons'
credibility.  Call them "crackpots" and "lunatics."  If they don't
have a college degree, assault them for that.  If they do have a
degree, even a Ph. D. ask them the relevance of it to the subject
matter.  To quote Vince Lombardi: "The best defense is a good offense"
so be offensive.  Perhaps use a Phil Klass technique, and declare
people who claim to have been abducted by aliens,  "little nobodies,
people seeking celebrity status."  That usually pisses a bunch of
people off.  Another Phil Klass technique which is also very clever,
(as quoted from the Don Ecker radio talk show) just yell out this nice
expletive: "BULLSHIT" and hang up the phone.  That leaves the audience
bewildered and bothered,
and makes you look like the Authority-Figure.

2) Have a closed mind or "Don't bother me with the facts my mind is
made up." --- Unfortunately, sometimes you will have to address the
evidence.  It can be quite ugly and you really don't want to hear it.
So rule #2 is keep a stiff upper lip, perhaps roll your eyes and just
drown out the other person when they are trying to make a point or
quote a statistic.   Try to dismiss the facts, here is another quote
from the Messiah, Phil Klass, "Even airline pilots can be grossly
mistaken."  Wow!  Would you really want to fly commercially if that
was true, I sure wouldn't.  But by the time the audience tries to
figure out what you meant, just move on to another one liner, such as
"Wrong, wrong, wrong!"

Now, whom is the audience going to believe someone who just
illuminated a point by using some great research, or you, the
"debunker" who only has to say "wrong, wrong, wrong."  You may try
throwing in some obscure references and words like "confabulation."
Gets them every time!

3) Come up with any kind of flimsy explanation, it makes people feel
better.  Yes students, it's still really potent, spouting a reason
that lacks substance.  Remember, American's are science-illiterates,
and they wouldn't know an isotope from ice cream, or an electron from
a election. So razzle-dazzle them with b.s.  Here are a bunch of
official-sounding  denials that lack merit, but sound plausible: swamp
gas (but only where there's swamps!), atmospheric mumbo-jumbo,
temperature inversions, funny looking clouds, planets, hallucinations,
shadows and light, smoke and mirrors,  mistaken this or that, hoaxes,
and that old standby, "Doug and Dave" which was recently used capably
in Parade magazine by you know whom!!!!! (He is deceased now but his
memory lives on!)

     Once you've mastered these three golden rules - you can be a
debunker too, and have a degree in 'Debunkology."  There will be a
test given so study and practice.