David Viewing and the president of BUFORA worked for a government agency and 
were paid to debunk sighting and contactee reports. They employed a brain 
surgeon to injure people who knew too much. They threatened to remove my 
motor cortex so I would be paralysed. A valuable contactee was brain damaged 
after he told his contactee story of his trip to another stellar system and 
the history of the aliens. He was an expert in ancient sumerian history and 
prior to this assault he gave lectures on an ancient alien base in the 
middle east dating back to the Age of Kings in the Bible.

I have been threatened with a pin wound to the right side of my head to 
paralyse my left hand because I believe in aliens.



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Chris.
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.. 'The Debunkers' Last Stand

Say, Arthurio, any proof yet of your drug induced visions of UFOs
and their little green alien occupants ???
Don't they have to land, at some time after their millennia of
intergalactic sojourn, at a local Jiffy Lube for an oil change ??
You could sneak up and steal one of their hubcaps and have it
analyzed for rare metal content, or perhaps snap a quick digital or
two ... not yet ... well, take another hit
off your crack pipe ... we've got nothing but time.

what a narrow-minded self-contained idiot.

Yes, but Hagar is your typical debunker, his disciples such as VD-VAC,
"H"eroin and other sock-puppets have been exposed to be outright
frauds and hucksters. We monitor their activities for safety. The
cult of debunkers HAVE been broken up and all that are left are a few
isolated individuals such as Hagar and his fellow cave-dwellers!! We
let them continue just for laughs. They pose no threat to our
civilized society, but they are still registered as truth-terrorists!!

I think they all need to be subjected to endless hours of Stanton T.
Friedman lectures to cure their ills.

Maybe so.

�The Debunkers� Last Stand
What else are they supposed to do?  Admit that evidence exists for the
possibility of ET contact, either in the past or the present, and then
have to admit to the possibility of total and systematic world-wide
conspiracy, which is what such an admission would amount to, btw, if
such knowledge exists.  Consider the consequences of debunkers
actually coming clean!  Their addiction to disinformation and half-
truths fuels their endless crusade to deny what they know to be the
final nail in the coffin of their weak cosmogony.  They are
missionaries, positioning themselves in a final attempt to convert
BELIEVERS to their habitual dislike for any idea that threatens their
daily routine, the whitewash that they call �reality�, the way things
are, the status quo.
Consider the implications of such an announcement.  We�re talking
about changing the way people actually think, since entirely new
thought structures would arise from an ET perspective; whole new
realms of knowledge would flood our minds; we would become connected
with both the past and the future if such an event took place, and in
this time, it�s quite possible that such an idea might ripple through
future time and destroy us, or perhaps promote a new peace.
Debunkers portray any analysis of hypothetical ET-related phenomenon
as an inherently flawed thought process, and the very idea is laughed
at!  The ETH remains taboo.  Is it not simply the result of one
scientific observation which has led to an efficient method of data
collection represented by the best evidence reported by govt.,
military, commercial and public sectors alike.  Are these reports not
potential candidates and do they not meet the accepted guidelines for
admissible evidence?  The evidence exists, however, it is interpreted
differently depending on how one approaches the actual numbers.
To the debunker, NOTHING but hard-core physical evidence for ET., like
a Sirian license plate, or proverbial dead alien, will ever be good
enough.  The debunkers ask for repeatable evidence.  Methods of data
collection have been implemented in the past and are taking place
now.  Thanks to the FOIA, we get to read what�s left of the reports,
if any evidence remains once the debunkers are finished with our
friend, the trusty black marker.
Debunkers change the rules by changing the tools of observation.  The
debunker will argue and grandstand on points aside from the sighting,
apart from the incident under discussion, in order to lead the
discussion away from the possibility of knowledge.  Actual discovery
could in fact lead one to develop an extra-terrestrial hypothesis.
But debunking the discovery could lead one to deny it.  Either way,
data is used to convince one of the merits of one side or the other.
For debunkers, however, there is no debate.  There in only one
possibility, and that is a mundane explanation.  [Remember, don�t dare
question a debunker or you�ll end up getting labeled a �believer�.]
Debunkers have the bases covered, at all times, and everytime they
post, they do so knowingly, in fact with intent, to dissuade, deny,
lie, and complain about how the evidence doesn�t exist, and still, all
the while, the debunker refuses to look at the EVIDENCE.  [It�s like a
mad-tea-party!  And the debunkers are all sitting together at the
table drinking tea with the Mad Debunker himself, Queen Dean.  The
Queen sits there, conversing through the noisy throng of
skeptibunkers, asking each debunker questions that have no real
answers.]
But even under so-called scientific examination, the data may
sometimes get set aside, whether it is because of practical financial
interests that fund research, or the quality of the data alone, the
sad truth becomes painfully obvious; stockholders control the data,
not the scientists.  Recent examples of such events may be found in
the daily paper.
So in fact, science is controlled by the financial interests of
investors who couldn�t give a flying fuck about TRUTH and EVIDENCE.
All they are concerned with is the bottom line, which translates into
cold cash, if not just meaningless binary digits alone.
Therefore, to state the obvious, scientific results can be manipulated
in the name of ambition and profit, leaving much doubt as to the true
state of evidence, in any form.  Whether such a hypothetical cover-up
could go on for very long, is questionable.  Unless such evidence was
physically destroyed, the truth would eventually get out, somehow,
unless those in possession of the �facts� had a way of erasing
evidence of its existence.  It would also have to be the greatest
secret of all time, the greatest story ever told, so to speak. What
would give this story added legitimacy however, would be the
scientific acknowledgement of certain fundamental, underlying
repetitive factors, which may or may not reflect an internal
consistency that responds to the presentation of data which hopefully
can be simulated and controlled for further testing.
If any thread can be found, if any answers can be obtained, shouldn�t
a clear and careful focus on a common thread be the first priority in
an ongoing investigation as to whether or not evidence exists in favor
of the ETH?  I also wonder how one would one go about testing for
alien phenomena and I question exactly what threshold is necessary for
data to become legitimate in the eyes of the establishment.
Insisting on only physical evidence alone is ridiculous.  This
limitation goes against our most fundamental notions of reality.  But
I will admit, that without physical evidence, it is impossible to base
any educated belief in the notion that �space aliens are on our planet
now�.  However, it needs to be said, this is NOT the argument being
proposed on these newsgroups.  This thread title clearly demonstrates
the lengths debunkers will go to deceive us, and the plain fact that
debunkers create their own arguments to knock down the one of their
opponents without ever having to confront the FACTS of the actual
argument.
If we were to actually listen to the debunkers, we would become mental
midgets, strapped to a rigid body of knowledge, and confined to house
arrest.   If we had listened to the debunkers we would still be
slaves, or serfs or peasants, toiling in the �masters� field, content
with the whip and the chain.
Josh
From: Josh Olaf