Re: Nobel-Prize Winning Scientist calls Debunkers "unspeakables"

On Sep 8, 4:18�pm, Chris Krolczyk <arfiend2...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 6, 10:18�am, "Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote:

"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in messagenews:521d39b3-4759-4c8f-9739-171c0ca38c29@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

Hagar has finally hit bottom, as Phil BULLSHIT No-Klass did before he
died!! �VD-VAC and the rest of the rest of worthless debunkers:
"H"eroin, Hager, Chris Krack-pot are truly a sad group.


Since this is coming from a trolling fucktard who can't even author
his own kookscreed, color me unimpressed.


I'll color you and your ILL-BRED.  As with most debunkers, they are
filthy, and a downright lazy lot.  It is easy to spot the debunker,
most are wondering in a drunken-haze, babbling to themselves and
drooling on their clothes.  These bums need to be rounded up and
detained.

I am afraid as far as debunkers go, the only solution is the FINAL
solution.

Alien Society and the Abduction Phenomenon by David M. Jacobs

Speculating about the inner workings of alien society has always been
the special preserve of philosophers, science-fiction authors, and
scriptwriters for motion pictures and television dramas. Their
fanciful depictions are usually imaginative projections derived from
their personal upbringings, their creative powers, and the societies
and technological cultures in which they have lived.

These representations have been fascinating, frightening, and
entertaining. For the audiences, their plots' fictional genesis has
never been in question. The discourse between the audience and the
inventor has been an agreed upon fiction in which aliens are portrayed
according to cultural norms of the times. Aliens are benevolent and
have come to help humans, aliens are malevolent and have come to take
over and/or destroy human society, aliens have come to share in human
society because of their own planetary problems, or aliens are angry
at spacefaring humans whom they wish to destroy to protect themselves.
These ideas have permeated entertainment in the 20th century from the
early pulp science-fiction magazines like Amazing Stories and Galaxy,
to the first alien-themed movies of the early 1950s and to similar
science-fiction television shows of the 1950s and 1960s.

Now, for the first time, another way of constructing an alien society
has developed�one that may be fascinating, frightening, and even, on
some level, entertaining, but not necessarily fictional. I am, of
course, referring to abductee descriptions of aliens and their
interactions aboard UFOs. It is from these descriptions that a picture
of alien society can be drawn that portrays a very different society
than one based on culturally derived fictional representations.

The new authors of these alien accounts are not, for the most part,
professional writers, producers, directors, actors, or others in the
entertainment and literary industry. The vast majority of them are not
prompted to fashion their stories in the hopes of celebrity or
remuneration. Often they are reluctant storytellers who would
sometimes prefer not to tell their accounts rather than either to
confront these stories consciously with their potential psychological
ramifications for the narrator, or to have to suffer the ridicule that
might result for themselves and their families if the stories were to
become publicized. Indeed, many say they have had experiences that
they remember but have no desire to relate them to anyone.

In spite of this, thousands of individuals have come forward to tell
their private stories�although one suspects that the vast majority
have not done so even though they might want to because they have
found no sympathetic and competent listeners. For the ones who have
come forward, their narratives comprise an extraordinary body of
evidence revealing a generally consistent account of alien life that
is on the one hand science-fiction like and on the other hand original
and ingenuous. The distinctiveness of these fantastic stories coupled
with nonfiction makes them striking in their verisimilitude.

Of course, the evidence for their reality is largely anecdotal and
often incomplete, and each account often presents more questions than
it answers, as is to be expected with new and still emerging data that
have not yet been fully analyzed. Using these accounts to generalize
about the kind of society in which extraterrestrials might dwell is
obviously intellectually risky because the information is so
controversial. We are in the position of formulating hypotheses mainly
on accounts derived from memory, often filtered through hypnosis
usually administered by amateurs. It is difficult to imagine a weaker
form of evidence.

Furthermore, abductees, from whose memory our knowledge of alien
society comes, will sometimes confabulate and relate events during
their abductions that either did not happen or happened in very
different ways from the ones they remember. Thus, using this
information to construct an alien society is a difficult and perhaps
even pointless pursuit and presents the danger of being a unique form
of collective science fiction�perhaps a bizarre offshoot of the much-
reviled collective-unconscious theory.

In spite of these problems, the consistency of detail and of narrative
line, and the extraordinary circumstances in which these abductee
stories are fashioned add a sense of authenticity to them that cannot
be matched by fiction authors. With this information generalizations
can be made, although partial, that might give us a clearer view into
the extraordinary world of alien society.

According to my analysis of abductee testimony, the structure of alien
society, like any human society, is complex. Abductees describe a
highly evolved and advanced I technological society that gives the
appearance of a smooth running, hierarchical, technocratically ordered
culture. The beings are obviously very advanced technologically. This
requires a mental capacity (either from biological manufacture or from
evolution) commensurate with the ability to advance science and thus,
in some respects, similar to that of humans. Although their mental
ability is on a par or even higher than humans, abductees give no
evidence to suggest that aliens' physiological mechanisms and the
processes within their anatomical and genetic make-up are the same as
humans.

Abductees have indicated that alien gross morphology is humanlike but
their appearance is nonetheless different. Several varieties of aliens
appear to be involved in the abduction phenomenon. The most common
ones are the . gray aliens who seemingly do the bulk of the abduction
work. They come in two varieties: small and taller. Abductees also
report seeing reptilian beings, insect beings, and human beings.
Little is known about the reptilian-like beings, and I have found
their reporting to be less common than the other types. Human-like
beings are almost certainly adult hybrids, of which more will be said
later. Abductees indicate that the insect-like beings are taller than
the other aliens and at the top of a hierarchical structure of
authority; they give orders, while all others take them. For the
purposes of this article, all aliens, except hybrids, will be
considered as one group.

In spite of their anatomical and hierarchical differences, the beings
all have certain common and important ~ characteristics: They are all
seen together on board the same UFOs, they all do more or less the
same procedures, and most importantly, they all appear to be working
together for the same goal. Thus, one can surmise that they all come
from the same society. But they have another aspect in common that
might help to define the society in which they dwell: They all can
communicate telepathically with each other and with abductees.