HVAC wrote:

"Andrew W" <removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:4aeb8067$0$6093$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Just because you can't handle those concepts...
The earth being round and rotating around the sun used to be
considered very fringe.

Yet it was science that discovered this. Using scientific methods.

NOT metaphysics.

Most of what makes planets and stars rotate and stay together (gravity etc) 
is metaphysics (beyond the physical).
Einstein and others used metaphysics.
Goes to show how little you know about everything.

So did going to the moon.

Yet it was science that got us there. Using scientific methods.

NOT metaphysics.

They are now fact.
You guys still continue to cling to the old school hard science
attitudes.

These 'hard science attitudes' has allowed us to move out of
the dark ages of pseudo-science, superstition and 'metaphysics'.

And yet science is moving more and more towards metaphysics with quantum 
mechanics to name just one area.
I can see that you don't know much about what metaphysics means or entails.
Please come back after you have educated yourself.

That's getting very old.
The facts regarding ufos is unfortunately going to take a bit longer
to come out due to the very sticky military secrecy and politics
issues. The problem here is you guys only believe in the physical 
methodical
sciences. That's only 50% of the science field. The other 50% is the
metaphysical sciences. That's the new emerging science model.

I hope not. Not in this country anyway. Those who allow religion and
metaphysics to cloud the truth will eventually be Darwined out.

They will be tossed into the scrapheap of history, along with those
who pray for god to change the weather and those who rattle beads to
ward off evil spirits.

Oh brother. The ignorance.
Sorry, but many of the scientists moving into this field are in America. I 
listed some.
You and george etc. are still living in the fifties.

-- 
If you are a hard skeptic then you haven't researched or questioned
enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same
problem.