Subject: FIRST COMMUNICATION WITH AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL
From: Ed Conrad
Date: 12/11/2009, 13:24
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.astro,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

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WHAT DO EXTRATERRESTRIALS WANT FROM US?
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Well, for sure, they wouldn't want our paper money. Too damn
contaminated, for one thing, transporting bacteria -- and germs --
around faster than the Orient Express.)
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How about our man- (and woman-) power to becomes obdedient slaves and
perform their manual labor, on earth and elsewhere?
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Hmmm! Not really! Not when they know, at best, we
operate at only about 55-65 percent efficiency (except
in those U.S.-outsourced whip-lashing factories overseas
which pay peanuts after ripped the heart out of Uncle Sam's
industrial might.)
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Well. how about our tremendous advancement in knowledge? Ridiculous!
WHAT knowledge, compared
to theirs?
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Okay, well, how about our gorgeous planet, with its fresh
air, clean water, spacious skies and mountains majesty?
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I'd hardly think so, not with our wildebeast stampede of pollution,
hazardous wate and toxic chemicals (although, perhaps, it would've
been an affirmative answer if we had asked that same question 200
years ago).
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Could it be the visitors from outer space savor an education,
desiring to learn how we've made astounding progress in good will
toward our fellow man?
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Sorry, Charlie! Another negative, with wars and battles
and never ending hate-mongering somewhere around the globe almost all
the time. And, just as bad, the extraterrestrials certainly must've
noticed that most of us can't even get along with our neighbors.
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I know! How about our democratic form of government,
the concept that all people are treated equal (wherever
Democracy reigns)?
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Hmmm! That's got to be a strikeout, too. The extraterrestrials must
have noticed that our worst tyrant/criminals -- usually holding high
elective office --
get away with a slap on their wrist.
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Meanwhile, the most dynamic changes in the legal
system -- like the current U.S. health insurance reform issue --
usually are rejected by corrupt, deep-pocket  politicians in order to
continue to benefit the filthy rich, to make them -- AND the
disgusting politicians -- filty richer, and with absolutely no concern
for the hardship their infernal greed causes for the common man.
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To be perfectly honest, after our visitors from outer space
get a really good idea of who we are and what we're really
all about, it's  rather obvious why they definitely would want
NO part of us  (not even as a meal, since we undoubtedly
would make them puke).
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In fact, when Captain Zorbar shakes his head in disgust
and finally announces, "OK, Xisbar, Turn the ship around
because we're heading home," the entire crew will breathe
a collective sigh of relief and give a rousing cheer.
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Zinkag 41  (Autonomus Unit Zinkag 41, brood assemblage
Delta 64) has written:
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There WAS a possibility that humans could contribute to civilizing the
universe but they have proven to be violent and shortsighted for that.
Instead they will be left alone until they kill themselves off.
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I speak only for the crew of my ship and necessarily in an unofficial
capacity, and as such the statements below should not be taken as
authoritative or their opinions being representative of official
policy.
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Historically, the policy towards Earthers within the galactic milieu
has been largely as you say. As you know, lengthy programs of detailed
observation were undertaken several hundred years ago.
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Nearly every academic extrapolated from the various terrestrial techno-
culture studies from that effort has concluded that Earthers, as a
self-organized species, would end poorly in some inevitable global
conflagration or religious conflict.
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As we know, it has happened before and will happen again countless
times among species whose biology fails to support reasoned thinking
with sufficient quality and rigor. Earthers have been shown to have
insufficient capacity within their brains for rational policy.
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 In the unforgiving universe, they will pay the price sooner or
later.
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The caveat in all this comes from the possibility that these Earthers
might achieve inter-steller spaceflight capabilities. In that event,
the chances of these Earthers destroying themselves completely is
appreciably diminished with each successful colony.
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The local stellar group is unoccupied and is rich in raw materials,
and is therefore ripe for exploitation, if they
get out there -- by which time it would be too late for peaceful
solutions.
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In the nineteen eighties it was clear that the US space program was
moribund with politics; so far, so good. But thirty years later we are
threatened with civilian access to LEO (low earth orbit), which in
some scenarios explodes into Space Renaissance, leading to non-trivial
solar-system expansion.
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Furthermore, Earthers have somehow muddled through many major crises
without a large incident and may in fact have eveloped geopolitical
talent sufficient to this minimal task. Barring accident, in fifty
years the Earthers could be pushing their first generation ships out
in the cometary halo or beyond.
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Of course they could still have a big nuclear accident but I am
beginning to think this is not assured, and hence becomes a matter of
some concern. What will we do if the Earthers bring their cultures of
insanity and violence to our space?
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In their current "form" they cannot even begin to communicate
meaningfully with our delegates, translators notwithstanding.
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Perhaps they will develop artificial intelligences that exceed
their native capacities and which would therefore be capable, in
principle, of interface.
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Even in that case the problem shifts position only slightly
if they retain their delusional belief systems.
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I suppose the question of change must be revisted. Can these Earthers
make changes to their biology and improve the quality of their
reasoning?
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We'll ignore the issue of terrestrial politics for the moment and
simply consider whether their current level of technological progress
would allow it. I think the answer is a qualified "yes", but I am in
no way prepared to say whether they are capable of changing enough
within the time remaining.
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Rather than wait for the actual specialists to weigh in, I would still
like to consider what this means.
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Their major obstacles are political and sociological. The politics
driving their general socio-economic systems is unable to handle these
issues properly; the entrenched conservatism rejects nearly everything
non-epsilon with respect to their vector of now.
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On the side of sociology, the majority of Earther individuals are
peasant-level, therefore capable of contributing little more than the
work from their physical labors. This inefficiency allows nearly
unconstrained growth in established fields of science and technology
which are useful to the political economy but only influences
fundamental change as a function of its unpredictablity in
deployment.
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I can't even begin to guess where an impetus to improve their
biological thinking basis would arise -- or could arise. The concept
is several big jumps from the orthodoxy in any of their religions.
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In this light I suggest that the threat of Earther off-planet
expansion is imminent and that we should begin to discuss
what we are going to do about it if we cannot interfere directly.
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Sincerely,
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Zinky (Autonomus Unit Zinkag 41, brood assemblage Delta 64)
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