JTEM wrote:

"Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au> wrote:

http://www.ufodigest.com/ufosecrecy.html

Summary: The evidence regarding this subject is clear
and overwhelming: It has not been difficult to make a
compelling case for the reality of UFOs per se.

I have to disagree. Not only do I find the case less than
compelling, I catch myself forcing back the laughter at
the opposing view.

"Photographic" evidence is meaningless, all of it suffering
from one of two flaws. They are "Too good" and "Too bad."

Most "Photographic evidence" is so bad that it can either
be just about anything or nothing. We just can't tell anything
for sure, not from the poor photos. The rest of the "Photographic
Evidence" is too good. The craft are so big, so clearly discerned
that the fact that thousands didn't report them defies all
explanation.

Actually there are many cases where scores of people reported large objects, 
some of them police officers etc.

An example of this latter category was a supposed "UFO"
hoovering outside of an apartment area. Such an event
simply could not take place in any area sufficiently urbanized
to supposed a high-rise apartment building.

The eyewitness accounts are even worse. I mean, those few
which actually exists. Go listen to "Coast to Coast AM" and
the people peddling UFO hype, and one thing soon becomes
clear:  The  /Claims/  of witnesses far exceed their actual
numbers.

The eyewitness accounts of airline pilots, airforce pilots, astronaughts 
etc. are very credible.

What does that mean?  UFO nuts will often tell tall tales about
a crash here or a sighting there -- all duly witnessed by large
numbers of credible citizens. What's missing is the actual
citizens who supposedly witnessed events.

I don't know what you're talking about. Most of the witnesses are available 
for interview to this day.
They are still being interviewed on many radio stations and documentaries 
(search online) and include professional people mentioned above.
You obviously only watch the six o'clock news like the rest of the sheeple.

In case you're still not getting it...

If I claim to have seen a UFO and that ten other people were
with me at the time -- all doctors, lawyers, college professors
and police officers -- and that they all saw it too, amongst
UFO nuts this would count as 11 witnesses (me plus the 10
I said were with me). Here on this planet though, all you've
really got is one (and only one) person making a whole bunch
of unsubstantiated claims.

Not that there aren't "eye witnesses."

http://lewwaters.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/ron-paul-screwball.jpg

Why all the secrecy? Why a 'black' or unacknowledged
government within the government?

If those clue impaired, the above is a fallacious argument.
Effectively what it's claiming is that the denial of their
view ("UFOs exist") is proof that they are right.

If that was too subtle for you...

Everything is proof of their position. There is literally nothing
the government could say that would dissuade them.

"Look!  They deny everything!  That proves I'm right!"

Why hide the UFO/ET subject from public
view?

Ditto.

You obviously didn't read the posted document which explains the 
government's and military's numerous reasons for the cover-up.
They still have several reasons to continue the cover-up. Today its becoming 
more and more a case of extreme embarrassment if they did admit to all their 
past lies and subterfuges.
Originally it was just a military security concern because they thought 
Russia or Germany had some kind of new weapon. Then it was the public panic 
issue. Then it was the desire to grab the ET technology to make better war 
weapons.
It has just become a huge mess that cannot be let out of the bag - maybe 
never.
But of course for the ignorant majority which includes the debunkers here it 
all seems incredible that our governments would want to cover up such a 
thing.


-- 
If you are a hard skeptic then you haven't researched or questioned
enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same
problem.