Subject: Re: For those who don't understand why there is a UFO coverup
From: "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwerner@optushome.com.au>
Date: 15/11/2009, 08:27
Newsgroups: alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,alt.paranet.ufo

JTEM wrote:
"Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au> wrote:

You are welcome to check the reports and testimonies
yourself.

Okay. Just did. What did I miss?


Lol.
Did your five second research for the day?
Which cases did you look up and on which website?


You mean they really did see something they couldn't
identify?

More than that.

They saw two things that they couldn't identify?


Who are you talking about?


The objects in many cases made high speed manurers

Pure conjecture.


Seeing is conjecture?  Ok. Whatever.


that show a high level of technology and intelligence.

Or a lot of totally natural bouncing around on an atmosphere
which is anything but "Smooth as glass."


More opinions.


Some of the objects were of an enormous size.

Who held the measuring tape?


Funny. Ha ha.

The pilots had enough perspective from other things to evaluate the general 
size of the objects. Some were extremely large.
Here's one case:
http://www.ufocasebook.com/2009c/colorado082209.html
Some early cases:
http://www.nicap.org/waves/1958fullrep.htm
Some more:
http://www.theblackvault.com/wiki/index.php/More_UFOs_reported_over_Ohio_(American_Chronicle,_12-17-08)


You think I and others have reasons for inventing cover-ups?

Absolutely. Your UFO claims imply a cover up. You could
even say that your claims require a cover-up. See, If craft
from another planet are real, and so prevalent, the only way
everyone on the planet wouldn't be accepting them as fact
would be if the governments of every major nation are
actively engaged in an enormous cover-up.


There is well documented evidence for a cover-up.
Do you think the military just tells everyone everything and lets the 
government do the same?
I can see that you know nothing about how the military, NSA etc. work.


Who's crazy now?

Oh, you're making it too easy...


You've only shown your ignorance so far.


Why don't you get off your seat and check out the
scores of documented evidence for the government
and military cover-up campaigns?

Okay, just did. What is it you find so compelling?


Where did you look?   www.debunker.com?


Again, it's "I'm right, and the fact that they don't agree with
me proves I'm right."

That's not an argument, that's a disorder!

You are very ignorant about this subject and your
government.

Judging from the volume of hard information you've posted
here ("nadda"), I don't think the problem is so much
"Ignorance" as it is "Imagination."


Everyone who does zero research and knows nothing thinks it just 
imagination, alcohol, Venus etc.
You're like the average person on the street who has a really smart opinion 
about what was seen.
Your type think you have an explanation for everything.


Bob Lazar and others have seen the recovered craft.

Bob Lazar is a tool who made a pile of cash selling UFO
mumbo-jumbo to the gullible.


Actually he didn't make much money at all.
Just another of your opinions.


Many including high ranking officers have seen craft in flight.

Insert an anecdote somewhere in the above and you'd have
something that qualified as "anecdotal evidence."


Testimonies and govt. documents are not anecdotes.
Its clear you're not even interested in this subject.
You just like waging your smart mouth about the thousands of serious cases 
around the world of which you know nothing.


-- If you are a hard skeptic then you haven't researched or questioned enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same problem.