JTEM wrote:

"Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer...@optushome.com.au> wrote:

Which cases did you look up and on which website?

All of them. now what is it you think I missed? What do you
find so compelling?

The objects in many cases made high speed manurers

Pure conjecture.

Seeing is conjecture?

Unless you've got a clear an accurate picture of what you're
looking at, and RADAR guns in your eyeballs, it's all pure
conjecture.

"What was that?"

"I have no idea!"

"It was really moving fast, based on absolutely no data."

"And it was from another planet, which I know because
I don't know what we were looking at."

Your statements are very simple minded and out of date.
The experts around the world are taking the cases seriously which wouldn't 
be the case if there was a chance that they were just misidentified craft or 
optical illusions etc.  But of course you think you're smarter than the 
experts.
And yes we do have data, tons of it.  Not that you'll ever look at it.
France and other countries are now releasing their findings to their public.
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=france+releasing+ufo+findings&meta=&aq=f&oq=
Check out the official Cometa report.

Or a lot of totally natural bouncing around on an
atmosphere which is anything but "Smooth as glass."

More opinions.

The only difference, of course, is that my explanation
does not require everything from a huge government
cover-up to a re-writing of the laws of physics...

Some things in this world and universe are not so simple and believable.
I know you like to have everything simple and kosher so you can remain in 
your comfort zone but we live in a complex world. Sorry.
You're going to have to pull your head out of the sand sooner or later.

Some of the objects were of an enormous size.

Who held the measuring tape?

Funny. Ha ha.

It's a serious question. When you make claims about
dimensions, as you have, you require a measurement.

To the centimetre measurements are not required.
And you can't use a measuring tape in the sky, silly dill.

The pilots had enough perspective

Please establish what is the requisite "amount" of
perspective.

Read the reports yourself to get an idea of how the observations were made.

Here's one case:

http://www.ufocasebook.com/2009c/colorado082209.html

People have names & faces. This is merely a story.

Some early cases:

http://www.nicap.org/waves/1958fullrep.htm

I commend you for using cites, but it's meaningless. All
your claims do is invoke questions...

Oh, and we can't have questions now can we?  Because then we have to start 
thinking and considering higher and more complex concepts and issues of our 
universe, and that is too hard.

Some more:

http://www.theblackvault.com/wiki/index.php/More_UFOs_reported_over_O...)

This last one says that there's currently no page.

Absolutely. Your UFO claims imply a cover up. You could
even say that your claims require a cover-up. See, If craft
from another planet are real, and so prevalent, the only way
everyone on the planet wouldn't be accepting them as fact
would be if the governments of every major nation are
actively engaged in an enormous cover-up.

There is well documented evidence for a cover-up.

Which massively contradicts the "Cover-up," doesn't it?

Not if the government can convince the dumb masses to not seek them out 
through public ridicule campaigns, which they have succeeded for the most 
part.

Do you think the military just tells everyone everything
and lets the government do the same?

Honey, that's EXACTLY what you're claiming!
You're
saying that the government -- and one presumes that
includes the military -- went through a great deal of
trouble documenting their "Cover-up," just so people
like you can expose them...

Things like this, as obvious as they are, just never
occurred to you....

Its not the cover-ups that the govt. documented silly, they documented their 
secret operations for their own purposes.
The investigators later documented those records, many now declassified, 
plus their findings, proving the govt. cover-ups.

Check out the testimonies of Sgt. Major Robert Dean, Col. Jesse Marcel Jnr., 
Sgt. Clifford Stone, Dr. Steven Greer, Col. Philip Corso and many others.

-- 
If you are a hard skeptic then you haven't researched or questioned
enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same
problem.