Re: Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone - EXCEPT DEBUNKERS!!
Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone - EXCEPT DEBUNKERS!!
From: Sir Gilligan Horry
Date: 03/12/2009, 10:21
Newsgroups: alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,sci.skeptic


True or not, some of this would make a good Hollywood movie...

http://www.whale.to/b/turner_h.html

Oh, they already made a TV series...

ABC "V" TV SERIES PILOT PROMO TRAILER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQoSCEMzJYE






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__________________

"As is also the case with humans, resistance exists amongst those
dominant races. Here again, appearance will not be enough to tell the
dominator from the ally. At your current state of psychism, it is
extremely difficult for you to distinguish between them. In addition
to your intuition, training will be necessary when the time has come."


Cool stuff aye !!!  LOL :)

One thing I realized recently about that message is they seem to
seperate them and their "wisdom of several races"
from "those dominant races".

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On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 01:43:47 -0800 (PST), "Sir Arthur C.B.E.
Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> wrote:

On Dec 2, 2:40 pm, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."<scie...@zzz.com> wrote in message

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On Nov 30, 2:39 pm, Cujo DeSockpuppet



<c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
"H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote in
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@newsfe08.iad:

"Cujo DeSockpuppet" <c...@petitmorte.net> wrote in
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
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On Nov 28, 9:37 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet
<c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote
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On Nov 27, 8:11 am, Cujo DeSockpuppet
<c...@petitmorte.net> wrote:
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote
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d543ac5-5f09-4570-a38a-9e677df2f...@b36g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

The truth-terrorists, A.K.A. UFO debunkers:
Hagar, Cujo, have
resorted to their usual

accurate comments about your pathetic
sockpuppet
act.

For some reason that is beyond human
comprehension,

I think you mean your comprehension. So you're
claiming sockpuppets
are human? This is as kooky as it gets.

you and your unsavory cult are still here,

I'm not a cult, freak.

THIS MUST STOP!!

But you were supposed to have me shipped off to
a
FEMA camp! I'm
still waiting for the address.

You brand of truth- terror have no place
amongst
normal, civilized
people!

But this is a democracy and Usenet is free
speech.
Thanks for
admitting you're a fascist censor, Artie/Gary.

Lack of response noted, Artie/Gary.

It would be very convenient if you would just
surrender and march
your entire cult over to the FEMA camps.
Thanks
in advance!~!

Where's the address? I'm w-a-i-t-i-n-g.

Game over, you and your cult are now officially
BANNED from posting
on the Usenet any longer.

Gee, it doesn't look like it worked. You really
ought
to try complaining
to my NSP, they always get a kick out of
complaints.

True, these are democratic forums, for civilized
people. Truth-
terrorists are NOT allowed here, thus and your
cult
CAN NO LONGER POST
here.

I don't recognize sockpuppets as authority,
Artie/Gary.

There are many FEMA camps for your containment
pleasure, please
consult the Purple Pages® for the FEMA camp most
convenient to you.
And then get marching, the commander will be
there
to greet you.

Better yet, find it for me. My zip is 92117. I'm
sure
the next time you
talk to "The General" he'll be able to tell you.
Just
remember to use
"fluff dry" on that sock when you take it out of
the
washer, Artie/Gary.

Sir ArtiØ support personnel in the War Against
Truth-Terror (WATT)
and Operation Eliminate Remaining Debunkers
(OPEL-REDU)!

An army of one, I see. That's right, Artie/Gary,
I'm
not counting your sockpuppets. Tough shit.

Hi Cujo and HVAC.
You guys do know that you are conversing with a
complete insane individual. Holeflapper was
detained
in the Salem, Oregon Hospital for the Mental
Handicapped but recently escaped when it was being
torn
down. He managed to escape when being transferred
to
new facilities and has not been seen since.
Now I ask is there any doubt about his sanity?

Of course not but the Artie/Gary sockpuppet is a
legit subject for my
field kookology studies. Besides, it isn't like
Twonky is entertaining
anyone at the moment.

You friggin' moron, your godDAMN truth-terror cult has
been
terrorizing ALL MANKIND for far too long.  I pray that
the General
will obey my strongest recommendation and start
indiscriminately using
about 10,000-15,000 hydrogen bombs against ALL debunker
strongholds.
Unless we can eradicate each and every last debunker,
nobody on THIS
ISLAND EARTH will be truly free of your nonsense.
Either that or make
sure that each and every debunker surrenders and turn
themselves over
to their nearest FEMA camp.  I'd prefer the first
agenda item, but the
General doesn't like to use H-Bombs so he may just wait
for your cult
to GIVE UP!!  The sooner the better!!!
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Howdy Holeflapper.
You know that you should give yourself up to the folks
in the white jackets.  Being an insane person on the
run must be very aggravating to say the least.  I bet
you are sleeping in dumpsters at night for fear that
the authorities will get you.  It is never to late to
give up Holeflapper, we are here to help you.  Your
inability to differentiate between aliens and brown
bottle apparitions must be a terrible handicap living
amongst the homeless.  I will bet they hate you and
your alien visions and probably even beat you until you
go away.  So please Holeflaffer give yourself up we are
here to help you
Your old pal.

Dr. Mr. spOOk,  First off, no matter how hard you try, you are just
NOT funny. Vapid and stupid more readily come to mind, but funny, NO!

More importantly than you lack of humor is also your lack of knowledge
on the subject of ETs and UFOs.  For an obvious spOOk, are you
incredibly dumb.

More Findings of Project MILAB:
Looking Behind the Alien-Military Abduction Agenda
By Helmut Lammer Ph.D. ©1997
Edited by Katharina Wilson

     I. Introduction

     Since I published my preliminary findings of alleged alien
     abductees who experienced possible kidnappings by special
     military / intelligence units, I have received new information,
     mostly from North American abductees and abduction researchers.
     Most of this information has not been previously published. The
     responses I received after the first half of my study was
     published, show that there are more alien abductees who have
     experienced unwanted human / military contacts, or MILABs,
     during their lives. In August of 1997, I published an overview
     of this study, co-authored by my wife, in a comprehensive book
     titled Covert Operations. By summarizing our findings we found
     that [1,2]:

     1.) MILAB victims are harassed by dark, unmarked helicopters
     near their houses. The mysterious helicopter activity goes back
     to the late sixties to early seventies, when they showed an
     interest in animal mutilations, but not in alleged alien
     abductees.

     2.) MILAB victims not only have alien abduction experiences,
     they also report that they have been kidnapped by the military.
     They describe being drugged, taken to hospital-like rooms as
     well as underground military facilities where they describe
     seeing men in white lab coats. Here they are examined,
     interrogated and sometimes implanted with unknown devices.

     Readers who are interested in more details should read the first
     half of Project MILA. We are also hoping to have an English
     edition of our book Covert Operations, published and
     available in the United States. Until this project reaches
     fruition, I believe the results I publish here in the
     second half of Project MILAB will lead you to ask these
     important questions:

     1.) Is it possible that secret human experiments or covert
     operations are occurring in western democracies?

     2.) What is the human agenda of the alien abduction phenomenon,
     and what is the purpose of MILABs: military abductions of
     abductees?

     3.) Is there a military interest in developing brain implants,
     virtual reality bio-chips, holographic image projection,
     cloaking devices, and mind altering weapons? The existence of
     these technologies supports the following hypotheses: (a) Secret
     experiments are occurring on humans and, (b) These experiments
     are being hidden from Congress and the public by placing the
     funding inside secret or "black" projects.



     II. Documented History of Secret Mind
   and Behavior Control Experiments


     Anyone who refuses to believe that secret experiments have been
     performed on people, including children, should look at the
     documented history of military intelligence radiation
     experiments as well as mind and behavior control projects which
     are now known to the public. In addition to the United States
     and Canada, the British press reported that even the Ministry of
     Defense (MoD) has carried out secret radiation experiments on
     humans during the last forty years.

     In 1994, the United States government lifted the lid on secret
     experiments it conducted on its own citizens, some of whom were
     disadvantaged people.[3] For about 30 years after World War II
     the Department of Defense (DoD), the CIA and various
     non-government research organizations conducted medical research
     on thousands of citizens, often without their knowledge. This
     research was largely concerned with radiation exposure, nerve
     gas, LSD and various biological agents. Recently it was
     disclosed that radiation experiments were performed on more than
     23,000 Americans in about 1,400 different projects during the
     thirty years following the war.[4]

     The people on whom these experiments were conducted were
     soldiers, prisoners, people considered to be mentally defective
     (both children and adults), hospital patients with terminal
     illnesses and pregnant poor women. Many of the scientists who
     conducted these Nazi-like experiments where respectable
     academics. Dr. Edwin Cameron was such a scientist (on the
     surface). However, he led a CIA funded laboratory at McGill
     University during the fifties where patients were abused and
     used as guinea pigs in brainwashing experiments.

     Some inmates were given ECT "therapy" twice daily, while others
     were drugged and kept unconscious for weeks or months. They were
     injected with huge amounts of hallucinogens, and subjected to
     long term sensory deprivation.[5] A panel appointed by the
     Clinton administration in 1994, to look into these matters, has
     so far documented 400 government backed biomedical experiments
     involving humans between 1944 and 1975. The purpose of these
     experiments may never be fully known. It is not certain when
     these experiments stopped, if they stopped at all, but they were
     still going on in the mid-seventies.[4]

     The Canadian psychiatrist and specialist on trauma and
     dissociation, Dr. Colin Ross, presented a paper at the 9th
     Annual Western Clinical Conference on Trauma and Dissociation,
     in Orange County, California. Dr. Ross described evidence from
     released CIA-FOIA documents showing that the agency has
     conducted research on the creation of Manchurian candidates
     since World War II.[6] Dr. Ross and research organizations such
     as the New York based Advocacy Committee for Human Experiment
     Survivors - Mind Control (ACHES-MC) also came across survivors
     of horrific experiments involving electroshock, drugs, brain
     implants, sensory deprivation, psychic driving; people having
     been locked in cages, forced sleep and sexual and ritual
     abuse.[7,8] Once selected, victims have been used repeatedly as
     human lab animals throughout their lifetimes, in one externally
     controlled and monitored experiment after another.

     In 1997, ACHES-MC delivered a video-document to president
     Clinton and Canadian Prime Minister Chretien. ACHES-MC requested
     a presidential hearing and the declassification of government
     records relating to alleged mind control experiments.
     Experiments that were conducted on unwitting children and adults
     and which were funded by the United States Government from the
     1940s onward. This videotape contains testimony from both
     children and adults - alleged survivors of federally funded mind
     control experimentation. It also contains testimony from
     therapists, psychiatrists and psychologists.[8] Interestingly,
     these victims do not report alien or UFO contacts like MILAB
     victims report, but some of the MILAB experiences also fit in
     with the pattern of abuse described by mind control victims.

     This short review of past secret experimentation on humans
     supports the MILAB hypothesis of covert operations against
     civilians.

   III. A Possible Purpose of MILABs

     Since I now have more MILAB information, I believe the whole
     alien / human abduction scenario is more complex than I first
     thought. It seems to me that there is evidence that more than
     one human agenda is involved in the unexplained alien abduction
     phenomenon. Each of these agendas probably has its own focal
     point involving alleged alien abductees.

     It seems to me that the first group is interested in mind and
     behavior control experiments. I found evidence of sensory
     deprivation experiments, liquid breathing experiments,
     experiments on electromagnetic stimulation of the temporal
     lobes, brain research and implant research.

     The second group seems to be interested in biological or genetic
     research. Some MILAB victims recall seeing humans in tubes
     filled with liquid, and genetically altered animals in cages
     during their kidnappings while inside military underground
     facilities. It should be noted that alien abductees without
     military contacts also remember similar scenarios inside UFOs or
     alien craft.

     The third group seems to be a military task force which has been
     operating since the eighties. This group appears to be
     interested in the UFO / alien abduction phenomenon for
     information gathering purposes. This would be a logical
     consequence if someone or a group of people with the "need to
     know" considers alien abductions to be real. It seems to me that
     the leaders of this military task force believe that some alien
     abductions are real and that they have national security
     implications. It is possible that the second and third group are
     working together because they could share their interest in
     genetic studies and their findings from alien abductees.

     I will now concentrate on tank and tube experiences of alien and
     MILAB abductees who represent victims of the before-mentioned
     groups. It should be noted that they are not alone and that
     their cases are only examples from a much larger sample of
     victims.



IV. Tank and Tube Experiences

     Michelle (pseudonym) had her first conscious memory of a typical
     alien abduction experience with non-human beings at the age of
     eight. She remembers classic alien abduction experiences with
     three to four foot-tall beings with large heads.

     Michelle then had traumatic flashbacks; reality-like dreams and
     some consciously remembered MILAB events. The memory gaps were
     investigated by a Ph.D. hypnotherapist and MUFON consultant,
     with the use of regressive hypnosis.

     Michelle and a boyfriend had a missing time - kidnapping
     experience during 1970 near a campsite at Ditch Plains in
     Montauk, New York. She remembers they were both taken by armed
     military personnel to the now closed Montauk base. After they
     were separated, Michelle was escorted inside an underground
     facility where she had several frightening experiences.[9,10]

     She remembers being in an examination room with machines,
     stainless steel equipment and a table covered in white. Michelle
     was placed on the table and strapped down. After a few minutes a
     group of about five to six people, including one female, came
     into the room. All of them wore medical clothes consisting of
     white gowns. Surgical masks covered their faces. They turned her
     head sideways and shaved a small portion of her head behind her
     right ear. She was conscious, but was kept immobilized and could
     not speak.[9]

     Michelle remembers that someone was writing something on the
     skin behind her ear. After this she received an intravenous (IV)
     injection. She felt a prick in her arm and lost consciousness.
     Later she awakened on the beach with her boyfriend, who had also
     been kidnapped.

     The next hypnosis session revealed more traumatic flashbacks of
     being in an isolation tank. The following experience was
     investigated during an emotional hypnotic regression session.
     Michelle had never had this experience while under hypnosis
     before. She recalled being in a dark place while she floated in
     something that felt slightly heavier than warm water.[9]

     Before this experience Michelle recalled being naked on a table.
     She had wires attached all over her body and head and she saw a
     doctor wearing a white lab coat standing next to her. The next
     experience was uncovered via a deep trance regression which
     probed again into the isolation tank experience. Michelle
     remembered once again that she was in a dark enclosed area where
     she struggled and was afraid of drowning. The experience scared
     her a lot and she wanted out of the tank. She felt that the
     liquid was heavier than water, was warm and smelled of a minty
     odor. She was able to move her arms and legs slightly as well as
     her head. She felt the smooth surface of the isolation tank on
     her right when she stretched out her arm. She was completely
     isolated in this dark tank when a kind of artificially induced
     "out-of body" experience began, or she began to hallucinate.

     I researched the literature of sensory deprivation experiments
     and came across similar isolation tank experiments which were
     invented by Dr. John Lilly.[11] Dr. Lilly tried to find out how
     he could isolate the brain and mind. He considered the effects
     of light and its stimulation of the eyes; touch and pressure and
     their stimulation of the skin, and even deep-lying organs within
     the body. Dr. Lilly looked at temperature differences, the
     effects of clothing, the effects of gravitation, and the effects
     of heat and cold.

     Dr. Lilly visualized a soundproof tank in which the body could
     be supported in water that would be maintained at the proper
     temperature in such a way as to maintain the generation of heat
     within the body. He found such a tank inside a soundproof
     chamber in an isolated building near the campus of the National
     Institute of Health. This tank was constructed during World War
     II for experiments conducted by the Office of Naval Research.
     Their research concentrated on the metabolism of underwater
     swimmers. This was the beginning of research on isolation which
     later included the use of drugs.[11]

     It should be noted that during the late fifties and early
     sixties, Dr. Lilly also experimented with brain implants. During
     this period, Dr. Lilly was contacted by covert intelligence
     services and researchers for the Department of Defense (DoD).
     Dr. Lilly wrote in his book The Scientist, that while he was at
     the National Institute of Health, the isolation tank
     experiments, like the brain electrode experiments, became
     subject to the politics of the time.[11] As the isolation tank
     research became known throughout government agencies, various
     individuals called him to find out about it. Dr. Lilly claims
     that among these interested parties were researchers working for
     the Army. Their interest was in the area of brainwashing
     captured prisoners of war.

     Dr. Lilly was asked if the isolation tank could be used to
     change the belief systems of persons under coercion. They wanted
     to use the isolation tanks and sensory deprivation experiments
     for brainwashing and other mind control experiments. Dr. Lilly
     visualized situations in which this method would be used under
     coercion. By careful control of the stimulation of isolated
     individuals, their belief systems could be changed in ways
     desired by the controlling persons. Dr. Lilly was convinced that
     the military intelligence community would use his isolation
     technique for covert experiments.[11]

     I think that Michelle's experiences show us that this was true
     and that there is enough evidence that she is one victim of such
     deprivation tank experiments. One should note, however, that
     this specific experience had nothing to do with aliens, although
     I do not know how her alien abduction experiences fit in this
     scenario.

     As I noted in my first MILAB paper, the presence of human
     military personnel inhabiting the same physical reality as alien
     beings is unbelievable for skeptics as well as serious open
     minded abduction researchers. Although Michelle's before
     mentioned experiences were definitely terrestrial, she also
     experienced a high strangeness close-encounter during the same
     MILAB. She experienced traumatic flashbacks under hypnosis of a
     reptoid creature, so this was also investigated.

     She described being escorted by military personnel into a dark
     office-like room where she was raped by a reptoid creature. I
     don't know what this traumatic experience means. I don't think,
     however, that the military worked with this reptoid creature. It
     could be possible that Michelle was drugged with an hallucinogen
     and projected the reptoid as a kind of screen memory, although
     she described the skin and other features of the creature quite
     realistically.

     Was this particular experience the product of a mind control
     procedure? We should take this under consideration because her
     other experiences in the underground facility were completely
     terrestrial. In addition, recent hypnosis sessions performed on
     Michelle in July 1997, revealed that she may have been a victim
     of various mind control experiments throughout her lifetime.[12]

     During a two hour session Michelle remembered being in a room
     with two to three men who were in charge of other men who were
     wearing white lab coats. Before this she was in some kind of
     examination room, where someone mounted something on her head.
     She described silver colored tongs pinching at her temples and
     inducing intense pain in her head.

     This experience is reminiscent of an experiment involving the
     stimulation of the temporal lobe region by the use of magnetic
     fields. Dr. Michael Persinger, a neuroscientist at Laurentian
     University of Sudbury, Ontario, demonstrated that he could
     artificially produce mystical experiences, out-of-body
     excursions and other psychic experiences by stimulating the
     temporal lobes with the application of magnetic fields across
     the brain. He discovered that such experiences are linked with
     excessive bursts of electrical activity in the temporal
     lobes.[13] A research target would have a helmet or tong-like
     device placed on their head. An artificially generated magnetic
     field would then mimic the firing patterns of neurons in the
     temporal lobes of the brain.

     Dan Wright, head of the MUFON Abduction Transcription Project,
     reviewed his records for tube or tank experiences of alleged
     alien abductees. He found several cases in his files during
     which the abductee saw a tube during their experience, but did
     not identify anything or anyone inside it.[14] In four cases
     however, abductees described large clear tubes and recalled
     either being placed inside the tube or seeing someone else
     inside. Two of these four abductees saw an alien creature in the
     tube. Dan Wright's files reveal three cases in which the
     abductee was in a tank filled with liquid and in two cases the
     victim was forced to breathe the liquid! None of the abductees
     who was placed in a tube or tank reported any unusual mindset
     such as an out-of-body experience or remote viewing during their
     time in these containers. Two of seven tank cases reported
     military involvement, but not on the same night as the tube or
     tank episode.

     MILAB victim Lisa (pseudonym) had tank experiences similar to
     the abductees in Dan Wright's study, but Lisa's memories are
     from conscious recollections. Lisa was kidnapped and brought to
     a military underground facility, where she saw naked humans
     floating in tubes. Lisa claims that she was forced by humans
     into some type of pool filled with a golden yellow bubbly fluid,
     while other humans looked at her. Lisa has traumatic
     recollections that her kidnappers tried to force her and other
     victims to breathe in the liquid.[15] In two of the before
     mentioned cases, the abductee was forced to breathe the liquid
     like Lisa. The hypnosis transcripts reveal that the liquid
     breathing experiences were traumatic for the abductees. Both
     abductees where totally immersed in the liquid and both reported
     that they could breathe the fluid.[14]

     If you review the scientific literature about fluid breathing,
     you quickly realize that taking fluid into the lungs and
     breathing liquid instead of air would revolutionize diving. The
     concept of fluid breathing began in the mid 1960s when Dr. J.
     Kylstra, a physiologist at the State University of New York at
     Buffalo realized that salt solutions could be saturated with
     oxygen at high pressures. Dr. Kylstra worked in a U.S. Navy
     compression chamber and performed experiments on mice. He was
     able to keep the animals alive for up to 18 hours. However,
     because carbon dioxide was not removed fast enough from their
     system, it quickly built up to near toxic levels. This problem
     was obviously a stumbling block when it came to using his
     procedure on humans.[16]

     The next step in fluid breathing came in 1966, with Dr. Leland
     Clark's liquid-breathing mouse experiment.[17] Dr. Clark
     developed a technique where a mouse survived for over twenty
     hours breathing fluid at 18 degrees centigrade. All animals in
     the early studies suffered pulmonary damage, but this was due to
     toxic impurities of the fluorocarbon, chemical interaction of
     the fluorocarbon with the lung, or some unknown effect that was
     undetermined. This pulmonary damage mystery as well as the
     problem of the elimination of carbon dioxide and the fact that
     the fluorocarbon tended to be retained by body tissues, would
     have to be solved before the process could be attempted on human
     subjects.

     During the following years, the technique of fluid breathing was
     refined and improved. Liquid ventilation tests of the early
     1990s proved to be successful. Scientists kept dogs alive in a
     perfluorocarbon medium for about two hours. After removal, the
     dogs were slightly hypoxic, but returned to normal after a few
     days.[16] After these tests on animals the procedure was ready
     for human subjects. The medical community now has a treatment
     for respiratory distress syndrome, the leading cause of death in
     premature infants. In addition, I suspect that liquid breathing
     experiments on adults would be extremely useful for military and
     Naval intelligence purposes, such as submarine escape and
     undersea oxygen support facilities.

     Alien abductee Betty Andreasson-Luca reported being placed
     inside a tube filled with liquid for the compensation of large
     gravity forces during a high UFO acceleration period. One
     abductee of Dan Wright's files describes such an experience
     inside such a tube:

     "..it's like water in there, it's like being in a swimming pool,
     only I can see through the sides...it feels like we are moving.
     Where are we going? Whoo, that's fast. Feels like we are moving
     fast. Oh! And one's standing outside. He's telling me, "That's
     why we had to put you in here, because we are moving too
     fast."...Acceleration. Something about gravity forces too
     much."[14]

     It is interesting to note that under hypnosis this abductee
     reported how the abductors put something in her nose before they
     put her in the tube. This means that this abductee was not
     forced to breath the liquid. Recent scientific studies of visual
     and photographic sightings of UFOs carrying out "impossible"
     high speed maneuvers by Dr. Bruce Maccabee would support such
     gravity force compensation tube experiences if the abductee was
     indeed in a real UFO.[18] Dr. Bruce Maccabee stated in his
     article Acceleration, that a UFOnaut or abductee inside a UFO
     accelerating at 500 Gs would be pushed by the walls of the craft
     with a force that would make him seem to weigh almost 500 times
     his weight on Earth. The body of an abductee might be crushed at
     that acceleration, and the skin might be pulled off the bones,
     unless the human was suspended in a liquid and the lungs and
     other body cavities were filled with liquid!

     Other alien abductees report that they have seen small
     alien-like beings as well as adult humans in a state of
     suspended animation inside tube-like incubators. Some of these
     abductees claim that the humans looked like hybrids.[14,19]
     These would fit the hypothesis of genetic research done by the
     "greys." However, there are also cases where abductees report
     human doctors escorting them through underground laboratories
     where they have seen humans in clear tanks.[19] MILAB victim
     Christa Tilton described such an experience:

     "I did see what I thought were humans in clear tanks
     underground. The tanks were leaning about 25 degrees backward
     until they touched the wall. The room was a regular room...like
     a laboratory. This was never viewed on a spacecraft. They seemed
     to be, like I said, in a state of suspended animation. There was
     a clear liquid filled totally in the tank casing...I believe
     these humans were being kept alive by some type of tubes behind
     their head.[20]"

     Christa Tilton is not alone with such an experience. There are
     other abductees who claim that they were taken to military
     underground facilities where they have seen people in glass or
     plastic tubes.[19] Some of these MILABs report rows of several
     identical people, each one in their own tube. I have to wonder
     if someone isn't cloning human "Dollys" in secret.

     Recently, Japanese scientists reported that a goat fetus had
     survived in an artificial womb for three weeks before its
     birth.[21] The scientists who designed the womb say that it
     could help premature human babies to survive. Dr. Yoshinori
     Kuwabara of Juntendo University in Tokyo and his colleagues
     removed a goat fetus from its mother 17 weeks into the
     pregnancy. They placed the fetus in a tank filled with liquid to
     simulate amniotic fluid. A machine pumped nutrients and oxygen
     into the animal's blood. Dr. Kuwabara also hopes artificial
     wombs could one day be used to help fetuses in the final stages
     of multiple pregnancies when the womb becomes too cramped.

     Alien abductees and MILAB abductees both describe seeing small
     tubes or incubators inside UFOs, as well as inside terrestrial
     underground research facilities. Most of the time the
     experiencer describes these infants as appearing very ill. Alien
     abductees and abductees with MILAB experiences suspect these
     infants may be hybrids.

     It would be logical for someone who is interested in cloning to
     develop and use artificial wombs and incubators filled with
     nutrient fluid for breeding purposes. Scientists who are working
     on biotechnology projects claim that cloning "brainless" humans
     for transplanting organs would be a reality in the future.[2]
     Presently, ethical considerations go against such
     Frankenstein-like research projects. A more science fiction-like
     purpose would be the creation of a genetically engineered
     soldier who is immune to biological warfare and possible future
     genetic warfare attacks. Incredibly, the experiences of some
     MILAB victims suggest that such projects are already going on
     behind the backs of the official medical research community.
     Therefore, it could be that secret research into artificial
     wombs and experiments on human fetuses are occurring and are
     being hidden inside black projects.

     It is clear that alien abductees report tank and tube
     experiences inside UFOs that are similar to what some abductees
     report seeing inside military research facilities. Such
     similarities have also been found between the procedures
     occurring to alien abductees and mind control victims.

     I now present a case where it appears that a secret military
     task force could be in charge of similar genetically oriented
     projects. This is a well investigated case in the MUFON
     Abduction Transcription Project files where human military
     personnel kidnap a woman from her house and drive her to a
     secret place.[14] She is carried into a building and placed onto
     an examining table. Her feet are placed into stirrups that are
     used for gynecological examinations. A female doctor conducts a
     gynecological exam. She searches for an embryo, but never finds
     one. The MILAB victim remembers the officer in charge as an
     older man with silver hair who threatens and interrogates her.
     She loses consciousness sometime during the examination or on
     the trip back to her home. Interestingly, the military always
     kidnaps her on the same night or the night after an alien
     abduction experience.

     The activity of this military task force, which seems to be
     interested in particular alien abductees, would be a logical
     consequence if their leaders believed that some alien abductions
     are real. As I mentioned above, it seems that this group works
     together with black project scientists who are interested in
     genetic research. It should be noted that the before mentioned
     abductee reported a tube experience, but not on the same night
     as the military kidnapped her. She observed several tubes with
     different bodies inside and she was placed in front of a tube
     with a body of a tall blond human woman inside. She described
     the tube as a glass or Plexiglas cylinder inside a UFO. Again,
     the above mentioned abductees are not alone and their cases
     represent a larger sample of individuals.



     V. Military Research Interest in Virtual Reality Brain Implants
    and Mind Altering Weapons

     Most people are now aware that secret mind and behavior control,
     and radiation experiments were performed during the post war
     years up to the seventies. We should ask if there is an interest
     in covert experiments today. MILAB skeptics who claim that the
     results of this study are rubbish [22] should look into recently
     declassified Air Force studies [23,24], scientific proceedings
     for law enforcement and military technologies and news articles
     concerning exotic weapon research.[25]

     A recent paper published for the Air Force as it looks ahead to
     its technological needs in the year 2025, [24] has the title
     Information Operations: A new War-Fighting Capability. In this
     paper, the authors write about a brain implanted cyber
     situation.[26] The authors propagate implanted microscopic brain
     chips which perform two functions. First, the bio-chip connects
     the implanted individual to a constellation of integrated or
     smart satellites (IIC) in low Earth orbit, creating an interface
     between the implanted person and the information resources. The
     implant relays the processed information from the IIC to the
     user. Second, the bio-chip creates a computer generated mental
     visualization based upon the user's request. The visualization
     encompasses the individual and allows the user to place himself
     into a selected "battlespace." In addition, a wide range of
     lethal and nonleathal weapons will be linked to the IIC,
     allowing special authorized implanted users (super
     cyber-soldiers) to directly employ these weapons.

     This means a soldier would be capable of viewing the normal
     world plus an overlay of information identifying and describing
     specific objects in his field of view. He can now evaluate the
     threat these targets represent and order a variety of weapon
     systems to engage and destroy these targets from a distance.

     One can see from such military studies that secret research in
     human-brain-machine and virtual reality implant research is
     already underway. Most of the references in this paper refer to
     military research institutes and are classified. Since the
     authors write that implanting devices in people raises ethical
     questions and public relation issues, we should ask who the
     guinea pigs are for these futuristic research projects.

     Another interesting paper concerning "Information Warfare" is
     classified and only individuals with appropriate security
     clearances can obtain a copy from the Defense Technical
     Information Center in Fort Belvoir, Virginia.[27] However, you
     can read in the abstract that this paper explores holographic
     image projection, cloaking devices and multispectral camouflage
     which will provide enhanced military deception capability. The
     most promising technology is the creation of synthetic
     environments that an adversary believes are real. They state
     that research for PSYWAR operations is done to influence a
     target by using holographic image projection with messages
     conveying a desired effect. We should again ask: Who are the
     adversaries and test targets for these research projects?

     A recent article in U.S. News and World Report revealed that the
     United States military has developed mind altering weapons, and
     has explored acoustics, microwaves and brain-wave manipulation
     to alter sleep patterns.[25] Interestingly, they have a picture
     of a military helicopter in the article pointing a directed
     energy beam to a house. According to a Pentagon briefing,
     acoustic and sonic weapons can vibrate the insides of humans to
     stun them, nauseate them, or even liquefy their bowls.[25]

     Dr. Eldon Byrd was the head of an exotic electromagnetic weapons
     project in the early 1980s. He conducted most of his research at
     the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute in Bethesda,
     MD. Dr. Byrd claimed that he and his colleagues were looking at
     electrical activity in the brain and how to influence it. He
     used ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) waves for stimulating the
     brain for the release of behavior regulating chemicals. By using
     these on humans, the test subjects experienced instant flu-like
     symptoms and nausea. Since the field was extremely weak, they
     were undetectable and reversible. Dr. Byrd never tested any of
     his hardware in the field and his project, which was originally
     scheduled for four years, was closed down after two.

     Because the technique worked, he suspects that the program went
     black. Other scientists told U.S. News and World Report similar
     tales of research on electromagnetic radiation turning top
     secret once successful results were achieved.[25] There are
     clues that such work is continuing within the cover of black
     projects. It is just possible that MILAB victims are being used
     as the guinea pigs for these research programs. Because they are
     secretive, they are not under congressional oversight.



     VI. Discussion

     One can assume that similar secret military research projects
     are being conducted for biological and genetic warfare projects.
     If we speculate that a core of the alien abduction phenomenon is
     indeed real, the same people who are behind these projects would
     have an interest in alien biology, genetics and mind control
     procedures. Therefore, I think there is a need for some
     individuals to test the above mentioned technologies on
     unwitting subjects. Since this research is hidden behind deep
     black projects, only certain people with the "need to know"
     would really know what's going on. This is also the main problem
     for organizations who push for congressional hearings into
     experiments on humans; secret genetic research and military
     involvement in the alien abduction phenomenon. Such projects are
     unacknowledged special access programs and most elected
     representatives do not know that this kind of research is being
     conducted.

     We must keep in mind that most MILAB victims claim they have
     seen alien beings and human military personnel working side by
     side. These claims should be carefully investigated. We need
     more research before we definitively conclude that alien beings
     and military personnel are working together.

     Acknowledgments

     For their help in this project, the author would like to thank
     my wife Marion, Walter Andrus (MUFON), Blanche Chavaustie (ACHES
     MC), Leah Haley, Ed Light (Mind Control Forum), Lisa, Michelle,
     Willi Stumptner, Christa Tilton, Thomas Tulien (AFS/Dialogue),
     Katharina and Erik Wilson, Dan Wright, and various MILAB victims
     and researchers who wish to remain anonymous.

     Victims and researchers who are interested in this study or have
     important information can contact the author at the following
     address:

          Dr. Helmut Lammer
          Postfach 76
          A-8600 Bruck/Mur
          Austria

          Email: lammerh@bkfug.kfunigraz.ac.at

     Dr. Lammer has a Ph.D. in Geophysics and works at the Austrian
     Space Research Institute as a research scientist on various
     space projects like the forthcoming Mars Global Surveyor
     mission. He researches UFO and related phenomena during his free
     time and has written three books related to the topic. He is the
     Austrian representative for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) and
     an associate member of the Society for Scientific Exploration
     (SSE).

     Books by Dr. Lammer: UFO Geheimhaltung (UFO Secrecy), Herbig
     Munich, 1995. UFO Nahbegegnungen (UFO Close Encounters), Herbig
     Munich, 1996. Verdeckte Operationen (Covert Operations), Herbig
     Munich, 1997.



     Notes:

     [1] Lammer, Helmut: Preliminary Findings of Project MILAB:
     Evidence for Military Kidnappings of Alleged UFO Abductees.
     MUFON UFO Journal, Nr. 344, December 1996.

     [2] Lammer, Helmut, and Lammer, Marion: Verdeckte Operationen:
     Militaerische Verwicklungen in UFO-Entfuehrungen (Covert
     Operations: Military Involvement in UFO Abductions (mind
     control; bio-chips; underground bases; exotic weapons).

     Herbig (Thomas Wimmer Ring 11, D-80539 Munich), Munich, 1997.

     [3] Time to Come Clean on Radiation Tests. New Scientist, No.
     2058, 30. November, 1996.

     [4] Estling, Ralph: Whatever Made Them Do It? New Scientist, No.
     1961. 21. January, 1995.

     [5] Concar, David: Ethics Code Spells Disaster for Canadian
     Psychologists. New Scientist, No. 2059, 7. December, 1996.

     [6] Ross, Collin: The CIA and Military Mind Control Research:
     Building the Manchurian Candidate. Paper presented at the 9th
     Annual Western Clinical Conference on Trauma and Dissociation in
     Orange County, California, 18. April, 1996.

     [7] Chavaustie, Blanche (Email: C4ixxx@aol.com): Personal
     communication. ACHES-MC, Box 108, Syosset, New York 11791,
     http://www.ACHES-MC.org.

     [8] ACHES-MC Memorial Day Video to President Clinton/Prime
     Minister Chretien, http://www.ACHES-MC.org, 26. May, 1997.

     [9] Michelle: Hypnosis Transcript.

     [10] Michelle: Personal communications.

     [11] Lilly, John: The Scientist: A Metaphysical Autobiography.
     Ronin Publishing, Inc., Post Office Box 1035, Berkeley,
     California 94701, 1988/1997.

     [12] Michelle: Hypnosis regression session during July 1997.

     [13] Blackmore, Susan: Alien Abduction: The Inside Story. New
     Scientist, No. 1952, 19. November, 1994.

     [14] Wright, Dan: Personal communication, 1996, 1997.

     [15] Lisa: Personal communication, 1996, 1997.

     [16] Science Web: Fluid Breathing. Starry Messenger
     Communications, Feedback, 1996.

     [17] Clark, L. C., and Gollan, R.: Survival of mammals breathing
     organic liquids equivalent with oxygen at atmospheric pressure.
     Science 152, 1755-1756, 1966.

     [18] Maccabee, Bruce, S.: Acceleration, National Institute for
     Discovery Science (NIDS), 1997, and MUFON 1996 UFO Symposium
     Proceedings, 183-217, Seguin, TX, 1996.

     [19] Personal communication with several MILAB victims.

     [20] Tilton, Christa: Personal communication, 1997.

     [21] Here's Looking At You Kid (Brief article about artificial
     womb research). New Scientist, p. 25, No. 2092, 26. July, 1997.

     [22] Alexander, Victoria: "MILAB Misdemeanor?" (A letter to the
     editor.) MUFON UFO Journal, No. 346, February, 1997.

     [23] New World Vistas: Air and Space Power for the 21st Century,
     Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, 15th December, 1995.

     [24] Air Force 2025: 2025 Support Office Air University, Air
     Education and Training Command. Developed by the Air University
     Press Educational Services Directorate, Maxwell Air Force Base,
     Alabama, August, 1996.

     [25] Pasternak, Douglas: The Pentagon's quest for nonlethal arms
     is amazing. But is it smart? U.S. News and World Report, July 7,
     1997.

     [26] Osborne, William, B. (LTC), Bethel, Scott, A. (Maj.), Chew,
     Nolen, R. (Maj.), Nostrand, Philip, M. (Maj.), Whitehead, YuLin,
     G. (Maj.): Informations Operations: A new War Fighting
     Capability. A Research Paper presented for Air Force 2025,
     August 1996.

     [27] Information Strike - Knowledge Warfare: Shattering the
     Information-War Paradigm: Air Force 2025: 2025 Support Office
     Air University, Air Education and Training Command. Developed by
     the Air University Press Educational Services Directorate,
     Maxwell Air Force Base, Alabama, August, 1996.

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