On Dec 3, 8:32 am, Rex <rexdudeREMOVEANDREVERSEDOM...@liam.ur> wrote:
Dr. Mr. spOOk, First off, no matter how hard you try, you are just
NOT funny.
No sir. That distinction goes to you.
Not quite, Bozo/spOOk. I know how to prove that debunkers are idiots,
and have had excellent results. Your kind not only have no sense of
humor, your are sworn enemies of the public trust. I, on the other
hand, am pro-public, your kind are truth-terrorists. And ALL MANKIND
are uniting under the banner of anti-debunkerism. Too bad debunkers,
go play with your crash-test time-compressed dummy. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!
ASTRONOMERS AND SCIENTISTS HAVE SEEN UFOs
Brian Zeiler reports more astronomers than generally realized have
seen UFOs. The list is compiled in a 1964 compilation of data from
NICAP, a civilian UFO group with mostly Ph.D.s on the board of
directors. Very scientific, pragmatic, academic group. On July 10,
1947, a top astronomer saw an elliptical object which hovered,
wobbled, ascended suddenly. August of 1949, Clyde W. Tombaugh,
astronomer saw a circular pattern of rectangular lights, keeping fixed
interval. Summer 1948, Carl Mitchell, physicist saw three luminescent
greenish discs one-second apart, pass across sky from N to S. On
March 20, 1950, Seymour L. Hess, meteorology and astronomy saw a disc
or sphere in apparent "powered" flight. On August 3, 1951, Walter
Webb, an astronomer saw a bright glowing light moving in undulating
path. In 1952, W. Gordon Graham, astronomer saw an UFO "like a smoke
ring, elliptical in shape, and having two bright pinpoints of light
along its main axis move overhead from west to east. On August 5,
1952, James Bartlett, astronomer saw during the daylight observation
of Venus a flight of two disks with a diameter about 30 minutes of
arc; passed overhead and turned east. Then two more disks with dome-
like protrusions in center. On June 11, 1954, H. Percy Wilkins, an
astronomer saw two silvery objects "like polished metal plates" moving
against the wind. A third grayish oval arced across sky. On November
25, 1954, Marcos Guerci, meteorologist saw two luminous objects
observed from airport; one apparently semicircular, other circular.
12/7/54 R. H. Kleyweg, meteorologist. Hemispherical disk tracked
through theodolite. 11/1/55 Frank Halstead, astronomer.
A cigar-shaped object followed by domed disk. 6/18/57 Henry Carlock,
physicist. Observing sky with telescope; twice glimpsed UFO with halo
around it and "what appeared to be three portholes." 11/10/57 Jacques
Chapuis, astronomer at Toulouse Observatory saw a maneuvering yellow
star-like object for 5 minutes. The UFO finally ascended straight up
out of sight. 5/22/60, Observatory Staff Majorca . Triangular UFO
about 1/4 apparent size of moon sighted at 9:33 AM, spinning on its
axis while on steady course. 3/16/61 R. J. Villela, a meteorologist in
Antarctica saw a fireball-like object in low-level flight. 5/20/62 C.
A. Maney, a physicist with six others saw a maneuvering light, turn
sharply, and make sudden changes in speed. These reports cover only
though 1964, so this should annihilate the myth that astronomers and
scientists don't see UFOs.
dicckk@prodigy.net responded:
Subject: Re: Astronomers and Scientists have seen UFOs:
Excellent response, great insight, but don't bother wasting the
healing crystals. He's so convinced of what he believes that the
crystals might be more affected by him, then vice versa. His negative
energy is strong enough to bottle and use for a Molotov cocktail.
I'm amused with so many who I banter with and exchange put downs with
on these NGs, especially the loudest and most crude mouthed debunkers,
because of what I know, likely as not, as you accuse Paul Smith, they
are abductees unable to come to grips with their utter need to visit
these kinds of NGs.
Of course, they are so rude and hateful, because of a subconscious
denial, if not conscious one, of experiences they refuse to accept.
I keep that in mind as I deal with them, like in kind, and am
sympathetic to them, since I know that were they to face the reality
of their existence and those things that they can't confront, like
alien abduction, they would be on a psychiatrist's couch, hoping to
correct their perceptions of having an abnormal or delusional mind.
There is good reason for deception in aliens dealing with mankind, and
it isn't all about deceiving to harm or remain secret. Those who have
alien interactions, at least at this time, are about their lives, as
lives for humans are to be lived, which is not about alien visitation,
even as it is so prevalent. Most who are referred to as abductees are
successes in terms of having the recall buried deeply in their
subconscious mind.
And, mainly it is so that such persons can go about their lives
without the onus of thoughts and recalls that are unsettling or
disruptive to the normal flow of human life, as well as to protect
them from the scrutiny and possible harm from others, who are not
privy to such visitations, and who don't have any buried memories of
such, as a result. And, such persons, who as a result of having no
such experiences, were they to believe those with recall, would likely
represent a segment of society out to eradicate or harm those who did.
Many, many more humans than anyone can imagine have had alien
experience and contact, and just as past life recall is not something
most can have at their disposal in terms of detailed recounts, or even
as something they will admit or believe, the truth is that they have
had past lives. And, the truth is, most alien attempts to bury their
visitation and contact with humans is successful, so the numbers of
those interacting in this way appears much less than it is, in
reality. And, those who do have recall, often can't adjust to the
reality of their experiences, and give it more than it was, or less,
or distort in it with the passing of time, or distort by fragmented
recall, or even, eventually come around to agreeing with those who say
they are delusional. But, many others with recall, are secure in
their experiences, and are able to reconcile and accept it, and round
out their recalls with reason and logic, and in the passing of time,
come to realize many more things they might not have, otherwise, in
terms of their life, and the continuity and past events of their lives
become more valuable as aids.
Anyway, don't want to write a thesis, just think you're right on with
you summation of Paul Smith, and that it applies to many others who
visit ufo groups, and other groups that deal with the paranormal,
etc.,
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No people cannot get "CAN PEOPLE NOT GET THE DAMN NAME UFO MIXED UP
WITH ALIENS!" since, just as many different peoples from many
different walks of
life have witnessed UFOs, just as many, or more have experiences to
relate
of alien contact.
The fact that you don't believe it, or can't conceive it, or want
proof of what comes down to mostly anecdotal reports, doesn't change
the circumstances. If anything, the appearance of UFOs lends credence
to the reports of those who have had alien contact.
Sure there are many who make wild claims and who profit or aggrandize
or exaggerate or bring attention to themselves who are questionable or
outright prevaricators, but there is an overwhelming number who
quietly go about their lives, who have reports, as well. And, it's
damn nasty and unkind of you to allocate this group of people as being
delusional or somehow deranged, just because of what you can't
possibly comprehend.
How dare you decide the reality of UFOs as an individual without any
evidence to the contrary of what others report? How dare you decide
thatyou're the last word on the subject? How dare you be so short-
sighted and ignorant as to think that what you think, makes it so?
It's sick thinkers like you that keep ufology from being proper
unraveled so that the truth might be revealed. You're what is wrong
with the subject of ufology. You, and all the rest who would rather
have a large segment of society deemed as being mad because you
haven't had the experience of alien contact.
Most with alien contact are reduced to remaining quiet about it with
friends and co- workers and family, thanks to insufferably narrow
minded fools, like you. Most who have had experience, don't talk out
and don't share, thanks to assholes like you.
UFOs do equal aliens, no matter what else the equation might mean, as
well.
Just who the hell do you think you are to decide what others have or
haven't experienced?
Well, I tell you who the hell you are, you're a low IQ'd idiot who
should know enough to keep his lack of comprehension to himself. You
and the rest of society who works so diligently to bury all those
things you don't deem as being possible, so that you can keep your
idea that all is well. Go sit in some explosive powder and light a
match. I'm sure you'd make a better fireworks display than a human.