| Subject: Re: Come on all you EARTH PEOPLE - you have a DEBUNKER problem that NEEDS to be addressed |
| From: "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> |
| Date: 16/12/2009, 07:30 |
| Newsgroups: alt.alien.research,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranet.abduct,alt.conspiracy |
On Dec 15, 1:28 pm, "HVAC" <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in messagenews:1138c3cf-6806-48aa-80d9-046688c3fb50@x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 15, 4:40 am, "HVAC" <harlowcampb...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
messagenews:c341ac8a-8c6a-46d8-a89b-5cdb591907ce@v15g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
Just start walking down the street (with your cave-dwelling cult)
holding a white-flag. You will be picked up by the anti-debunker
expedition force and taken to the nearest FEMA camp.
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I just came in from a walk with a white flag.
No one picked me up.
What should I do now?
Your bestest buddy, (and big toe) Harlow
Keep trying. You and your ilk will be detained. Now, no more posts
until you are secured in a FEMA camp.
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I got a better idea.
Give me your home address so I can turn myself in
directly to YOU. (I will be the guy waving the white flag)
Now please don't mistake the white flag for the white
uniforms and butterfly nets of those who USUALLY
come to your house.
I will wait here until I receive your address.
I just can't wait to meet you in person...........
Your bestest buddy, (and big toe) Harlow
Quit screwing around debunker, take your entire cult to the nearest
FEMA camp, or else the General just might sign off on using the
debunker-busting bomb, and 10,000 hydrogen bombs!!
Do aliens really exist? Just ask France's official UFO hunters By Adam
Sage
Flying saucers and alien spacecraft have long been favourites of film
and TV producers, but Jean-Jacques Velasco believes that not all UFO
sightings can be dismissed as products of over- active imaginations
On a cold Monday morning 22 years ago, Jean-Jacques Velasco was
sitting in his office when a gendarme rang to tell him about a strange
incident. Renato Nicolai, a retired technician, had been working in
his garden in Trans-en-Provence, near Nice, when he saw a dark, round
object come down from the sky, settle on the ground and take off
again, the gendarme said. Over the years, Velasco has heard many such
stories, and disproved most of them. But this one was different -
this one was credible, he believes. Something seems to have landed in
Trans-en-Provence, he says, and that something has never been
identified.
But who is Velasco? Another crackpot determined to find a flying
saucer? No, he is a scientist working for the state-run National
French Centre for Space Studies (CNES), where he heads a department
responsible for analysing what are commonly called unidentified flying
objects (UFOs) but what are officially known as unidentified aerospace
phenomena (UAP).
A neatly-dressed, bespectacled man, Velasco talks with the careful
precision of an academic who is keen to be understood. He is not
saying that he has come across visitors from another planet; he is
saying merely that events occur for which science has yet to find an
explanation, and which merit further inquiry.
Velasco’s department was set up in 1977, the year that Close
Encounters of the Third
Kind was released amid a global UFO fever. Across the world people
thought they saw strange figures, flying saucers and bright lights.
But there were few serious attempts to probe the issue. The CNES set
up the Service for Expert Appraisal of Atmospheric Re-entry Phenomena
(SEPRA). Based in Toulouse, the department is as pedantic as its title
sounds: the staff are state-employed scientists, shaped by a prudent,
rigorous and somewhat bureaucratic culture. In France such bureaucracy
can often be cumbersome and painfully rigid. Yet in this domain at
least, this rigidity offers a guarantee of impartiality that is rare
as far as UFOs are concerned.
Last year, when the CNES was told to reduce its 1.3 billion budget,
the organisation’s president, Alain Bensoussan, ordered an audit into
SEPRA’s work. A wide range of French scientists was asked whether it
was worth continuing research; almost all said yes.
One reason is because, unlike most other UFO-hunters, SEPRA’s staff
are neither seeking publicity nor peddling an obscure belief in
extraterrestrial civilisation. They say they do not know whether
extraterrestrial beings exist or not, and look disparaging when you
ask them to voice their hunches on the question.
They do not have hunches, only statistics. Yet the statistics that
Velasco has made public are eloquent. Since, 1977, SEPRA has received
some 6,000 reports of alleged UFO sightings. Of these, 110 are from
civil or military aircraft crew, and the rest from ordinary French
people who have almost invariably contacted their local gendarmerie.
In 21.3% of cases there is a clear, indisputable and banal
explanation: a firework display, a novel lighting system involving a
luminous balloon, a cloud above the Pyrenees that is shaped like a
flying saucer. In 24.9% there is a probable explanation, and in 41.3%
the information is too vague to be of use. But in 12.5 per cent of
cases about 750 sightings since 1977 the evidence is detailed and
inexplicable, and is thus categorised as an unidentified phenomenon.
Most alleged UFOs are spotted by the sober and sensible, says Velasco.
“In all our statistics on the people who see these phenomena only one
in 1,000 is not credible because of alcohol. People go to gendarmerie
spontaneously; mainly because they want to know what they have seen.”
Yet a witness’s good faith is not enough, and the story must be
corroborated. Consider, for instance, a case reported in 1994, when
the crew of an Air France flight from Nice to London saw a dark, 300-
metre long object over the Paris region. The object disappeared before
the aircraft had got near it, and the flight continued without
difficulty. A few days later Velasco travelled from his office in
Toulouse to the military aviation control centre outside Paris, where
he was given a read-out of the radar information from the day in
question. It revealed that an unknown object had indeed flown over the
French capital.
Consider, too, the Trans-en- Provence case. Velasco went through the
usual checks with the gendarme. Was there evidence? The apparent
answer was yes, as there were marks in the grass where the object had
supposedly landed.
Velasco drove to Trans-en-Provence and took ground samples. These
showed that the area had been heated to between 300ºC and 600ºC, that
it had been compressed by something weighing up to a tonne and that
the plants there had been affected by a strong electromagnetic field.
Velasco concluded that Nicolai had indeed witnessed a strange
happening. So should we conclude that little green men were taking a
look at Provence from their spaceship? Velasco dismisses such ideas.
“We cannot say whether there is a link between the question of
extraterrestrial life and that of non-identified aerospace phenomena,”
he says. “But we can show that UFOs exist. The problem is interpreting
them, and I hope that scientists, and other people, look at this
question more seriously.”
France's Velasco, CNES & SEPRA
Source: The Belfast Telegraph - Digital
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/features/story.jsp?story=378557