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On Feb 4, 9:58 pm, "Kiyo" <darlaperen...@maol.com> wrote:

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On Feb 4, 4:34 am, Gro...@JeffRelf.F-M.FM wrote:

Who should be sheltered and fed and
who should be evicted ( off the planet ) ?

One dollar, one vote; no dollars, no votes.

We have brains and could control our reproduction.

This is the road to wisdom.
Along the road one must also produce the "how".
And it must be a "how" that is approved by global consensus.
All that is needed is a very minimally empowered central government
that
is
endowed ONLY with the task of garnering consensus on very 
specifically
stated issues.
This will lead to solutions to the "how".

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

And who better to head up this government than those who have been 
on
Earth longer than we have!

Double-A

The seans would not govern us, Double-A.
If we were to decide to join the galactic community, then the seans 
would
show us details about their government-by-consensus and how it works.
Human society would continue to be autonomous.
The galactic government, comprised of seans, humans and other species
would
act only as a minimal form of government.
When needed, it would help our governments garner consensus for the
controversial issues that exist among us.
At first, at least to me, it all sounded very complicated, but once 
you
learn it, begin to use it, and see how effective it is,
government-by-consensus is simplicity itself and a marked improvement
over
all previous forms of government.

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

When I worked at the Water Bureau, they used a consensus approach to
plan their new billing system.  The system they produced was a
disaster!

Double-A

One strength of the consensus approach, if done well, is to (finally) 
come
to a decision about a complicated issue.
One weakness is that there are often no "good" or "right" choices, so no
matter what the consensus is, a "disaster" might ensue.
Another weakness is that a consensus might choose a disastrous outcome
because not all the facts were available.
A great strength of consensus is that EVERYONE is accountable, whether 
the
outcome is disastrous or an improvement.

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***** Kiyo
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Kiyo  America has bankers,ins.executives,utility companies that answer
to no one. The Mafia is in complete control,and the Godfather has not
a worry in the world. Reality is here in Florida he is building and
staffing the prisons,and the same is true of hospitals and nursing
homes. Godfather man running Florida nursing homes is Joe Conti.
Mafia in the past went before Senate hearings Today Mafia runs
Washington.  Congress is not trusted by the people.  TreBert

Such things are why true consensus government is so much better, Bert.
There are ways to construct it so there can be no corruption.

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***** Kiyo
System Commander