"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> wrote in message 
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On Jun 14, 12:33 pm, "H." <hbo...@charter.net> wrote:

"Brad Guth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Jun 13, 2:29 am, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid>
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Brad Guth wrote:

On Jun 12, 8:56 pm, "Bast"
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Benj wrote:

On Jun 11, 3:04 pm, Brad Guth
<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jun 10, 3:25 pm, chatnoir
<wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> wrote:

"What really bothers me is that the SETI people
will tell you there
is no evidence for UFOs. Well, they certainly
don't reference any,
so there must not be any, right? Wrong!"

SETI is nothing but another tax avoidance
scam/ruse upon humanity.
There's no doubt that even the planet Venus has
something of
sufficient intelligence to offer, and yet all we
get is the usual
mainstream obfuscation and denial.

Hey, SETI are pikers compared to the real
money-spenders: NASA. It
wouldn't surprise me one bit if all the
fake-moonshoters are right.
Hey the purpose was to waste vast sums of money,
not get to the moon.
So the latter was in a way irrelevant.

SETI has gone the way of Greenpeace, both taken
over by people with
agendas who have no idea or care to persue the
goal and ideals of why
those groups were formed in the first place.

And I doubt anyone who actually is following
"science", can honestly
take any of the moon landings seriously anymore.
We now know there are far too many reasons why the
technology of the
60's, would never have been able to do it, without
a LOT more
"accidents".

Equipment from Earth has been deposited on our
moon, although there's
no viable record of how that was accomplished, much
less along with
those having "the right stuff".

Doing a search for Apollo, ARPA or DARPA "right
stuff" and there's
nothing but subjective smoke and mirrors. Too much
simply doesn't add
up.

~ BG

Doesn't anyone ever wonder why we have satellites
with cameras that can
resolve to enough detail to read a licence plate on a
car. And even with
google earth I can pull up a picture of my house and
count the flower boxes
on my patio.

But even the latest Japanese satellite now mapping
the moon, hasn't shown us
even ONE picture of the Apollo equipment covered with
dust.
...And dont say it's because the Japanese don't know
how to make decent
quality cameras. <g>

Cruising at less than a fifth the distance, apparently
the newest of
cameras and their optics as good or better than
anything looking at
Earth, can hardly see through all of that crystal clear
vacuum. Must
have something to do with all of that hot sodium and
the local
electrostatic energy that's in addition to all that
local gamma, hard
X-rays, UV plus way too much IR.

As with our LRO stuff, They'll need sufficient time to
PhotoShop
through each and every frame of that badly eroded and
unavoidably
dusty moon, as well as doing all they can to keep
anything except
Earth from ever showing up in any given FOV.

Lets us see if their images are as equally
monochromatic gray and of
piss poor dynamic range, in spite of all the local
mineral saturations
and unavoidable UV secondary/recoil that by rights
should be offering
those rather color/hue saturated images.

~ BG

Well BG you have finally found the truth. This is the
biggest government cover up yet.
So here it goes: There really is no moon, it is just a
big canvas stage prop, to have an excuse for America to
spend billions of dollars on computers for Federal
Employees to watch porn. The original moon was
punctured and deflated back in the 60's when we sent up
those moon probes. Now you know the real truth.
H.

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Vast UFO Cover-Up a 'Cosmic Watergate,' Says Nuclear Physicist

Published June 08, 2010
| FOXNews.com

After half a century of investigation, a former nuclear physicist --
who worked on fission and fusion rockets for companies like
Westinghouse and Aerojet General Nucleonics -- is convinced that not
only are UFOs real, the government has known about them since 1947.

"Some UFOs are intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft,"
Stanton Friedman told AOL News, calling the vast cover-up of their
existence "the biggest story of the millennium."

Employed for 14 years as a nuclear physicist for companies like
General Electric, General Motors, Westinghouse and Aerojet General
Nucleonics, he worked on highly classified programs involving nuclear
aircraft, fission and fusion rockets.

In 1958, UFOs caught his attention, and Friedman has since lectured
about this subject at more than 700 colleges and professional groups
in all 50 states and around the world.

"After 53 years of investigation, I'm convinced we're dealing here
with a cosmic Watergate," he told AOL News. "That means a few people
within major governments have known since at least 1947 that some UFOs
are alien spacecraft."

In Friedman's new book, "Science Was Wrong," co-authored with Kathleen
Marden, he wrote, "There's been no shortage of strong, negative
proclamations from debunking groups and individuals who refuse to
examine the evidence ... to support the notion that some UFOs are of
extraterrestrial origin."

While some scientists through the years have quietly suggested Earth
has been visited by ETs, Friedman is the most outspoken. He's
especially irked by the attitude of scientists who use radio and
optical telescopes in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence,
such as the SETI Institute in California.

"What really bothers me is that the SETI people will tell you there is
no evidence for UFOs. Well, they certainly don't reference any, so
there must not be any, right? Wrong!"

I've personally seen 3 black triangulars.

Luke Nichols
Princeton, WV

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