Deconstructing Our DNA – The Evidence - Addendum One
By Peter Farley www.4truthseekers.org
Depleted Uranium. A Scientific Perspective
Saturday, July 21st, 2007
An Interview With LEUREN MORET, Geoscientist
W. Leon Smith and Nathan Diebenow, ,The Lone Star Iconoclast
Interview Conducted By W. Leon Smith and Nathan DiebenowLeuren Moret
is a geoscientist who works almost around the clock educating
citizens, the media, members of parliaments and Congress and other
officials on radiation issues. She became a whistleblower in 1991 at
the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab after witnessing fraud on the Yucca
Mountain Project. She is currently working as an independent citizen
scientist and radiation specialist in communities around the world,
and contributed to the U.N. subcommission investigating depleted
uranium. According to Wikipedia online encyclopedia, Moret testified
at the International Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan in Japan in
2003, presented at the World Depleted Uranium Weapons Conference in
Hamburg, Germany, and spoke at the World Court of Women at the World
Social Forum in Bombay, India, in January 2004.
· THE INTERVIEW
· ICONOCLAST: What are the latest developments with reducing
depleted uranium exposures on U.S. troops?
· MORET: A young veteran named Melissa Sterry of Connecticut
has introduced a bill into the Connecticut Legislature requiring
independent testing of returning Afghan and Gulf War veterans going
back to 2001. She said that she did it because she's sick, and her
friends are dead, and that's from serving in the 2003 conflict. I have
been following the bill and talking to her. Yesterday, she testified
twice at the United Nations. I said, \"Why don't we get this bill all
over the U.S. in state legislatures because it informs the public and
get the local media to cover it.\"
The U.S. has blocked any accountability at international and national
levels. There's a total cover-up just like with Agent Orange, the
atomic veterans, MKULTRA, the mind control experiments the CIA did.
This is more of the same, but the issue is much, much worse because
the genetic future of all those contaminated is effected. Now vast
regions around our world, as well as our atmosphere, are contaminated
with the depleted uranium. They've used so much. It's the equivalent
number of atoms, as the Japanese professor calculated it, to over
400,000 Nagasaki bombs that has been released into the atmosphere.
That's really an underestimate.
I went to Louisiana in April. I was invited to speak at the University
of New Orleans for three days. One of the veterans asked me to be in
their April 19 protest and rally through the City of New Orleans. He
took the Connecticut bill straight to the Legislature, and he got two
legislators to sponsor it, and he said, \"Just whiteout the name
\'Connecticut' and write in \'Louisiana' on the bill.\" You're not
going to believe it. It passed 101 to 0 yesterday in the Louisiana
House.
I want you to write about it because we want it (the DU testing bill)
in Texas. Nevada is going to introduce it. Congressman Jim McDermott
is going to put it into the Washington legislature. We want to get the
governor of Montana to do it because he's the first governor to demand
his National Guard be returned. I think half of them are back. He
said, \"I need them in the state.\"
The DU issue is just really, really, really, really so awful. I don't
think there's any greater tragedy in the history of the world in what
they've done.
· ICONOCLAST: Is there a danger of depleted uranium, being
used in weaponry over there, spreading by air over here?
· MORET: The atmosphere globally is contaminated with it. It's
completely mixed in one year. I'm an expert on atmospheric dust. I'm a
geoscientist, a geologist, and that's what I studied and did my
research on. It's really a fascinating subject. We have huge dust
storms that are a million square miles and transport millions of tons
of dust and sand every year around the world.
The main centers of these dust storms are the Gobi Desert in China,
which is where the Chinese did atmospheric testing, so that's all
contaminated with radiation, and it gets transported right over Japan,
and it comes straight across the Pacific and dumps all its sand and
dust on the U.S., North America. It's loaded with radioactive
isotopes, soot, pesticides, chemicals, pollution — everything is in it
— fungi, bacteria, viruses.
The Sahara Desert is another huge dust center, and it goes up all over
Europe and straight across the Atlantic, to the Caribbean, and up the
East Coast. Of course, you get it in Texas with those hurricanes. They
all originate in the Sahara Desert.
The third region is the Western United States, which is where the
Nevada test site is located. We did 1,200 nuclear weapons tests there,
so all this radiation that is already there, which is bad enough, has
caused a global cancer epidemic since 1945. All of that radiation was
the equivalent of 40,000 Nagasaki bombs. We're talking about 10 times
more.
In April of 2003, the World Health Organization said they expect
global cancer rates to increase 50 percent by the year 2020.
Infant mortality is going up again all over the world. This is an
indicator of the level of radioactive pollution.
When the U.S. and Russia signed the partial test ban treaty in 1963,
the infant mortality rate started dropping again, which is normal.
Now they are going up again. It's the global pollution with this
radiation.
· ICONOCLAST: I had one of our correspondents send me a series
of photographs of the Al-Asad dust storm in Iraq on April 28.
· MORET: That dust is what I'm talking about.
· ICONOCLAST: In the picture you can see a gigantic wall of
sand.
· MORET: I have 16 pictures of that storm. They're posted with
photos from Iraqi doctors of the children of people with cancer and
leukemia. So what did you think of that dust storm?
· ICONOCLAST: I thought it was really dramatic.
· MORET: It remobilizes all the radiation, but those are the
larger chunks. The DU burns at such high temperatures. It's a
pyroforic metal which means it burns. The bullets and big caliber
shells are actually on fire when they come out of the gun barrel
because they are ignited by the friction in the gun barrel. Seventy
percent of the DU metal becomes a metal vapor. It's actually a
radioactive gas weapon and a terrain contaminant.
I'll email you the URL of the 1943 memo to General Leslie Grove under
the Manhattan Project. It's the blueprint for depleted uranium. They
dropped the atomic bombs, but they did not use the DU weapons because
they thought they were too horrific.
I've toured and gone all over Japan with a pediatrician in Basra and
an oncologist, a cancer specialist. These poor doctors — their whole
families are dying of cancer. He has 10 members of his family with
cancer now that he's treating, and this is just from Gulf War I.
They've used much, much, much more in 2003. All over the whole
country.
· ICONOCLAST: What can soldiers expect when they come home?
· MORET: If they were in Bradley Fighting Vehicles, they're
coming home with rectal cancer from sitting on ammunition boxes. The
young women are reporting terrible problems with endometriosis. That's
the lining of the uterus malfunctioning, and they just bleed and bleed
and bleed. Some of them have uterine cancer — 18 and 19 and 20 year
olds.
The Army will not even diagnose it. They send them back to the
battlefields. They won't treat them or diagnose them. A group of 20
soldiers pushed from Kuwait to Baghdad in 2003 in all the fighting.
Eight of those 20 soldiers have malignancies.
· ICONOCLAST: Does exposure to depleted uranium effect their
psychological background when they come home?
· MORET: Depleted uranium are these particles that form at
very high temperatures. They are uranium oxides that are insoluble.
They are at least 100 times smaller than a white blood cell, so when
the soldiers breathe, they inhale them. The particles go through the
nose, go through the olfactory and into the brain, and it messes up
their cognitive abilities, thought processes.
It damages their mood-control mechanism in the brain. Four soldiers at
Fort Bragg came back from Afghanistan, and within two months, those
four had murdered their wives. This is part of the damage to the brain
from the radiation and the particles.
The soldiers from Gulf War I in a group of 67 soldiers who came back,
they had DU in their equipment, in their clothes, in their bodies, in
their semen, and they had normal babies before they went over there to
war. They came back, and the VA did a study. Of 251 Gulf War I
veterans in Mississippi, in 67 percent of them, thier babies born
after the war were deemed to have severe birth defects. They had
brains missing, arms and legs missing, organs missing. They were born
without eyes. They had horrible blood diseases. It's horrific.
If you want to look at something, Life magazine did a photo essay
which is still on the Internet. It's called \"The Tiny Victims of
Desert Storm.\" You should look at that — oh, my God, the post-Gulf
War babies playing with their brothers and sisters who are normal.
Basically, it's like smoking crack, only you're smoking radioactive
crack. It goes straight into the blood stream. It's carried all
throughout the body into the bones, the bone marrow, the brain. It
goes into the fetus. It's a systemic poison and a radiological poison.
· ICONOCLAST: What about the people in the United States that
are here? You say that DU is being mixed and spread globally?
· MORET: Yes, it's being mixed globally. We're getting
secondary smoke. It's the secondary smoke effect. You know the people
who inhabit a room with smokers? They are getting that secondary
smoke, and so are we.
· ICONOCLAST: Is that secondary smoke getting thicker as we
speak?
· MORET: Yeah, the concentration of the depleted uranium
particles in the atmosphere all around the globe is increasing. There
are indications that the U.S. will go in June and bomb the heck out of
Iran. We're monitoring the U.S. Army ammunition factories. They have
very large orders for those huge bunker buster bombs that have 5,000
lbs. of DU in the warhead.
· ICONOCLAST: So the prognosis for America isn't really good?
· MORET: No, it's really bad.
· ICONOCLAST: And if this continues then?
· MORET: It's going to kill off the world's population. It
already is, and it doesn't just effect people. It effects all living
systems. The plants, the animals, the bacteria. It effects everything.
· ICONOCLAST: So the things that we eat for instance, if they
have DU in them, then we'll just get it in our systems, and so we're
polluting the oceans, so that could effect all marine life?
· MORET: Yes, it's in the air, water, and soil. The half-life
of DU, Uranium 238, is 4.5 billion years the age of the Earth.
· ICONOCLAST: With the damage that's been done to this point,
can we turn back? We can't clean it up?
· MORET: There's no way to clean it up. What happens is these
tiny particles float around the Earth. There are still plutonium and
uranium floating around the Earth from bomb testing. These particles
are so tiny that molecules bumping into them keep them lofted in the
air, and so the only way for them to get out of the atmosphere is
rain, snow, fog, pollution, which will clear them out of the air and
deposit them in the environment. What happens is the surface of these
particles gets wetted by the moisture in the air. They come down and
land on stuff and stick to it like a glue. You can't ever get the
particles off whatever they're sticking to because have you ever put a
drop of water on a microscope slide and then put another one on top of
it? Can you pull those apart?
· ICONOCLAST: No.
· MORET: Okay, that's the same effect that happens to
radioactive particles. Once they are removed from the atmosphere, they
stick to any surfaces they land on. In a way they are removed from
circulation from the atmosphere. You can't wash them off. If it keeps
raining or they're in a creek, you know, if they're on rocks or stones
or something in a creek, they won't even wash off.
You didn't know it was this bad, did you?
· ICONOCLAST: No, I knew it was bad, but I thought it was
fairly isolated.
· MORET: No. What is over there (in Iraq) is over here in
about four days. I don't know if you followed Chernobyl. That big
bubble of radiation went around and around the world, but this is
dust. It becomes a part of atmospheric dust. Like the dust storm you
saw in that photo, it goes everywhere.
· ICONOCLAST: Is it in the upper levels of the atmosphere or
the lower levels?
· MORET: It's in lower orbital space.
They brought the Mir spacecraft back down to Earth when they got done
using it, and there was something called a space midge which covered
the electronics on the outside of the spacecraft and protected it from
radiation that comes from the sun because electronics are real
vulnerable to radiation. They analyzed the surface of that space net
and found uranium and uranium decayed products which they said came
from atmospheric testing or burned up spacecraft with nuclear
materials or nuclear reactors on board. Uranium can also come from
supernovas, but they thought that the most likely sources were
atmospheric testing and the nuclear materials we put in space.
· ICONOCLAST: Essentially then, you're saying that we're
conducting a nuclear war.
· MORET: Yes, and that's exactly what it is. We've conducted
four nuclear wars since 1991. Yeah, these are nuclear wars. DU is a
nuclear weapon.
· ICONOCLAST: From the point of view of a scientist, what
needs to happen to correct this?
· MORET: Well, we need to stop the use of it. We've built an
international movement to stop the use, the manufacture, the storage,
the sales, and the deployment of depleted uranium weapons.
· ICONOCLAST: Are the munitions we sell to other countries
contained with depleted uranium?
· MORET: We have. In 1968 the first depleted uranium weapons
systems that we found a patent for suddenly appeared in the U.S.
patent office. It was for the Navy. It was sort of a Gatling gun style
weapon system that you mounted on ships. It rapidly fires like 2,500
bullets a minute. It's over 3,000 now. They've improved the design.
Then in 1973, we gave depleted uranium weapons systems to the Israelis
and supervised their use. They used them in the Arab-Israeli war and
completely wiped out the Arabs in five days. Then the show was on the
road. That was the first actual battlefield demonstration of this new
weapon system.
Hughes Aircraft developed the full-length system which is for the
Navy. That's the Gatling gun system. They still use it. That was
produced in 1974 and tested. Within six months the U.S. government had
sold the DU weapons system to 12 entities which included many branches
of the U.S. military and other counties. We've sold DU weapons systems
to about — we don't know exactly for sure — it's been about 12 or 17
countries. The good news is that normally such a weapons system that
effective would have been sold to 80, 100, or 120 countries by now.
But because of the radiological, biological, and environmental hazard,
countries were not only afraid to buy it, the ones who did buy it are
afraid to use it. The only countries we know that have used DU are
Britain, the U.S., and Israel.
The United Nations in 1996 passed a resolution that depleted uranium
weapons are weapons of mass destruction, and they are illegal under
all international laws and treaties.
In 2001, the European Parliament passed a resolution on DU. What
happened is that the NATO forces went into Yugoslavia in 1998 and '99
and flew 39,000 bombing runs and completely bombed Yugoslavia into
radioactive rubble. Germany and the U.S. made the most money on the
destruction of Yugoslavia, and they made sure that countries that
didn't know about the DU, that the peacekeepers from those countries
like from Italy and Portugal, were sent to the most contaminated
regions in Yugoslavia. Germans and Americans didn't send their own
troops into those areas. They were in the least contaminated areas.
These poor soldiers from other countries came back and died within
weeks or in a couple of days or months. The parents in Portugal and
Italy are furious and went to the Parliament and media, and there was
just a huge media storm of articles about DU.
The cat was out of the bag because of the 1998 NATO invasion of
Yugoslavia. The cat was out of the bag, but Japanese troops have been
sent into Somawa. They're self-defense forces. It was the most
contaminated area where the heaviest fighting happened in Iraq. We can
expect those soldiers to be really, really sick.
· ICONOCLAST: What about Iraq itself? What's been done thus
far?
· MORET: It's uninhabitable. The whole country. Yugoslavia,
Iraq, and Afghanistan are completely uninhabitable.
· ICONOCLAST: But people live there, so they're going to live
there suffering?
· MORET: Well, you can see from the birth defects and the
illnesses that it is pretty severe. Each year the number of birth
defects and illnesses will rise because of the total contamination
levels in all living things will increase because they are breathing
that air and drinking water and eating the food from contaminated
soils. It's just a slow death sentence. The same with Yugoslavia and
Afghanistan.
Depleted uranium is a very, very, very effective biological weapon.
This is the primary purpose for using it. Marion Falk (a retired
chemical physicist who built nuclear bombs for more than 20 years at
Lawrence Livermore lab), who is the Manhattan Project scientist I work
with, taught me pretty much everything about radiation and particles
and DU. He said the purpose of weapons used by the military is not
only to injure and kill the enemy soldiers, but the purpose is to
kill, maim, and disease the civilian population because it reduces the
productivity of a country and pretty soon a lot of their resources are
going to be used for taking care of sick people. They will have fewer
and fewer healthy workers.
Of course, once you cause mutation in the DNA, that damage is passed
on to future generations of that affected person or animal or plant.
DNA does not repair itself.
· ICONOCLAST: So the mutations would be probably destructive
moreso than constructive.
· MORET: Oh, the mutations are causing those birth defects.
· ICONOCLAST: They're not evolutionary diseases?
· MORET: No, they are evolutionary. They are inherited by all
future generations and passed on. It's like if you have red hair and
all of your future generations will have that gene.
· ICONOCLAST: So if I had a precondition to heart disease
because of the radiation, then the generation that would come after me
would have the same problem?
· MORET: Well, if you damage the cell or parts of the cell or
functioning of cells, that doesn't necessarily damage the DNA. There
are two kinds of damage: one damages the cells of the living organism,
and that may not be passed on, but if you damage the DNA in the egg or
the sperm, that is passed on to all future generations.
· ICONOCLAST: So the guys coming back from the war, their
sperm is probably going to be —
· MORET: Damaged. Yes. They also have depleted uranium in
their semen. When they're intimate with their partners, they
internally contaminate them with depleted uranium. The women become
sick themselves. They have depleted uranium in their bodies, and there
is something called burning syndrome. Just absolutely horrible. You
can read about it in an article by David Rose in the December Vanity
Fair. It's on the Internet.
A friend of mine is the widow of a Canadian Gulf War veteran. David
Rose interviewed her, and she griped about the burning semen. She
said, \"I had 20 condoms full of frozen peas in my freezer at all
times, and after we were intimate, I would insert one into my vagina,
and that is the only way I could bear the pain from the burning semen.
\" And it goes through condoms, too.
· ICONOCLAST: Gosh, durn!
· MORET: Yeah, you should see the high school classes when I
talk about the burning semen and the internal contamination. The
girls' mouths go into little round Os, and the boys start panicking
because they're like, \"I'll never get sick!\" (laughs) The name of
this article is \"Weapons of Self-Destruction. \"
· ICONOCLAST: How much DU will it take to kill off all known
life on this planet?
· MORET: The amount of radiation released is certainly going
to have a very, very profound global impact, and we're already seeing
infant mortality increasing globally. The fetus is the most
susceptible to radiation damage because all the cells are rapidly
dividing, the limbs and the bodies developing, so when you start
introducing toxic chemicals and radiation, it really damages the
natural process of fetal development.
The reason they were able to convince the Senate to sign the partial
test ban treaty in 1963 was because of the increase in infant
mortality. It had been dropping and declining two or three percent for
quite a long time each year because of better prenatal care and
educating mothers.
Infant mortality started going up after the bombs were dropped on
Hiroshima and Nagasaki, especially in the \'50s when the big bomb
testing started.
By 1963, it was really obvious that the bomb testing globally was
having a real impact on the unborn. They signed the partial test ban
treaty. Russia and the U.S. stopped atmospheric testing, and the
infant mortality rate started going down right away. They're going up
again now. This is global radioactive pollution, and how long it would
take to eliminate all life is something nobody knows, but the depleted
uranium is a very, very effective biological weapon.
There are two purposes for the military use of weapons. One is to
destroy the enemy soldiers, and the other, which is just as important,
is to destroy the enemy civilian population. By causing illnesses and
disease, long lingering illnesses really impact the productivity and
the economy of a country. It was Chernobyl and other nuclear disasters
that actually destroyed the Soviet Union because the former Soviet
Union is very, very sick from all the radiation that was released.
They were much more sloppier than we were.
I have a World Health Organization world health survey which they
published in the Journal of American Medical Association last June.
The impact of atmospheric testing is very, very apparent by the
percentage of population in each country they investigated for some
form of mental illness. For instance, Japan is 8.8 percent. Nigeria is
very low — 4.7 percent. They have almost no radiation in Nigeria. In
the Ukraine where they had the Chernobyl accident, it is 20.4 percent.
Spain is at 9.2 percent. Italy is 8.2 percent. It's pretty low because
they don't have nuke plants. France is 75 percent reliant on nuclear
power, so you have mental illness in 18.4 percent of the population.
Mexico is at 12.2 percent, and the United States is at 26.3 percent —
the highest rate of mental illness in the world.
And George Bush and his siblings were all exposed in utero to bomb
testing fallout in the United States. He had a toddler sister who died
of leukemia when she was about three.
I worked with a group called the Radiation And Public Health Project.
Their website is < www.radiation. org . We are all radiation
specialists, well-known scientists, and independent scientists. We've
collected 6,000 baby teeth around nuclear power plants and measured
the radiation in them, and one of our members is the neighbor of the
women who worked with all of the Bush children, including President
Bush himself, because they had severe learning
disabilities.ICONOCLAST: How do we know that the Bush children were
exposed?
· MORET: By the year of their birth. The year they were
carried by their mother. You have to look at how much bomb testing
material was released into the atmosphere, and there's a direct
correlation to the decline in SAT scores for all teenagers in the U.S.
to the amount of radiation that was released into the atmosphere the
year their mother was carrying them. These are delayed effects of
radiation exposure in utero.
· ICONOCLAST: So they were living in Connecticut, but they
were still feeling the effects of the radiation in Nevada?
· MORET: Two years ago the U.S. government admitted that every
single person living in the United States between 1957 and 1963 was
internally exposed to radiation. So for any pregnant woman during
those years, her fetus was exposed.
· ICONOCLAST: What type of radiation levels are we talking
about?
· MORET: It's low levels, and the main pathways are drinking
water and dairy products. It even killed the baby fish in the
Atlantic. Strontium-90 is a man-made isotope that comes out of nuclear
bombs and nuclear reactors. They measured the levels of strontium-90
in milk in Norway from the 1950s up until the 1970s, and they measured
the decline in the fishing catch in that same period, and as the
strontium-90 increased in the milk in Norway, fishing catches
declined.
By 1963, when the U.S. tested a nuclear bomb almost every day (they
did 250 tests in one year because the treaty was going to be signed),
the fishing catch declined by 50 percent. In the Pacific, it declined
60 percent because there was Russian, Chinese, French, and U.S.
testing in the Pacific.
· ICONOCLAST: So we're still eating those contaminated fish
today. Has the genetic code been changed?
· MORET: The oceans are getting whatever is getting rained
down, snowed down, or fogged down from the atmosphere. It's getting
into the oceans. This big frog die-off, which is global, is certainly
related to the radiation in the rainwater. It's a global nuclear
holocaust. It effects all living things. That's why they call it
\"omnicide,\ " which means it kills all living things — the plants,
the animals, the bacteria. Everything.
· ICONOCLAST: You think we ought to have the Weather Channel
report on the current sand storm conditions in Iraq so we can prepare
four days in advance for the radiation?
· MORET: I'll tell you what I did when 9/11 happened.
I called all the doctors with Radiation And Public Health Project, and
I said, \"Get out of town, and don't come back until it has rained
three times.\" One lived 12 miles downwind from the Pentagon. She went
out on her balcony with her geiger counter. I said, \"Get that geiger
counter out of your purse.\" We had just done a press conference in
San Francisco, and I knew she had it in her purse. Well, the radiation
levels were 8-10 times higher than background.
We called the EPA, HAZMAT, FBI, and said, \"Get all those emergency
response workers suited up. They need to be protected.\" Two days
after 9/11, the EPA radiation expert for that region called back and
said, \"Yup, the Pentagon crash rubble was radioactive, and we believe
it's depleted uranium, but we're not worried about that. It's only
harmful if it's inhaled.\"
He said, \"We're worried about the lead solder in the plane.\" Well,
you know what's in Tomahawk missiles? They have depleted uranium
warheads. The radioactive crash rubble contaminated with DU is
evidence of a DU warhead.
· ICONOCLAST: I did not think about that, but going back to my
original question: Should the Weather Channel report for us on the
toxic dust storms in Iraq?
· MORET: But how could people get away from them? These dust
storms are a million square miles. They're huge, and they come right
across the Atlantic, the Caribbean, and Texas coast line, and right up
the East Coast. There are people who are going to leave the state
every time there's a hurricane It's in the food, drinking water, dairy
products, and then the problem with Uranium 238, which is 99.39
percent DU, is that it decays in over 20 steps into other radioactive
isotopes.
That's why I call it the \"Trojan Horse.\" It's the weapon that keeps
giving. It keeps killing. This is like smoking radioactive crack. It
goes right in your nose. It crosses the olfactory bulb into your
brain. It's a systemic poison. It goes everywhere. These particles
that form at very high temperatures — 5,000-10,000 degrees C — are
nanoparticles. They are a 10th of a micron or smaller. A 10th of a
micron is 100 times smaller than a white blood cell. They get picked
up in the lipids and probably the cholesterol and go right through the
cell membranes of the cell. They screw up the cell processes. They
screw up the signaling between the cells because the cells all talk to
each other and coordinate what they're doing. It messes up brain
function.
· ICONOCLAST: Do you know what Iraq was like before the first
Gulf War?
· MORET: Iraq prior to the 1991 Gulf War was the most advanced
in the entire Middle East. They had scrupulous databases of the health
problems and disease rates, which is why the U.S. bombed all of the
offices in the Ministry of Health. We destroyed all those records so
that a pre-Gulf War health base could not be established to show how
much these diseases have increased. This would concern the U.S. in
terms of compensation for war crimes.
In these horrible U.N. sanctions, they (the Iraqis) could never get
all of the protocol medicine for the treatment of leukemia. They (the
U.N.) would say, \"These steps of the leukemia treatment were
components in weapons, so you can't have that.\" They never gave the
people the full proper protocols in the areas of treatment they needed
to get rid of the leukemia. It hid the effects of the depleted uranium
because the children were starving. They had malnutrition. They had
the healthiest population in the Middle East (prior to Gulf War I).
· ICONOCLAST: Let's talk about the children of Iraq.
· MORET: After the Gulf War, they had maybe one baby a week
born with birth defects in the hospitals in Basra. Now they are having
10-12 a day. The levels of uranium are increasing in the population
every year. Every day, people are eating and drinking while the whole
environment is contaminated. Just what you'd expect. There are more
babies born with birth defects, and the birth defects are getting more
and more severe.
An Iraqi doctor told me that babies are being born now that are lumps
of flesh. She said that they don't have heads or legs or arms. It's
just a lump of flesh. This also happened to populations that were not
removed from islands in the Pacific when the bomb tests occurred.
Basically, governments were using them as guinea pigs.
· ICONOCLAST: So all the countries that were equipped with
nuclear weapons are guilty of those atrocities.
· MORET: They were all doing it. France, Russia. China, and
the U.S. And I'm not sure if Britain did bomb testing. They were real
low key about it.
· ICONOCLAST: Where are the radiation hot spots in the United
States?
· MORET: In the United States, it would be within a 100 miles
of nuclear power plants. We have 110 nuclear power plants in the U.S.
We have the most of any country in the world, but only a 103 are
operating. Almost all of the entire East Coast.
What we did was we took government data from the Centers of Disease
Control on breast cancer deaths between 1985 and 1989. Anywhere from
within a 100 miles of a nuclear power plant is where two-thirds of all
breast cancer deaths occurred in the U.S. between 1985 and 1989.
It's also around the nuclear weapons laboratories. That would be Los
Alamos in New Mexico, the Idaho Nuclear Engineering Lab in Idaho, and
Hanford in Washington State, which is where they got the plutonium for
all the bombs. They contaminated the entire Columbia River watershed
and almost the whole state of Washington.
It gets into the water and into the plants and into the vegetation. If
you eat clams or mussels or crabs or things like that, even certain
kinds of fish that eat off of the mud at the bottom of the river, you
have much higher levels of radiation in your tissues. It depends on
each person and on how healthy they are, but this man from Washington
State died suddenly. He was in his late 40s. They did an autopsy, and
he was full of radioactive zinc. They went, \"Where in the world did
he get this? It only comes from nuclear bombs and nuclear reactors.\"
They studied his diet and discovered he loved to eat oysters. They
found out where he bought his oysters and found the oyster beds. They
were 200 miles off shore, from Washington State. The radiation was
being carried off out to sea from the coastline. It was passing over
this oyster bed. The oysters were just gobbling them up.
· ICONOCLAST: What are the symptoms of DU poisoning?
· MORET: Soldiers on the battlefield have reported a metallic
taste in their mouth. That's the actual taste of the uranium metal.
Then within 24-48 hours, soldiers on the battlefield have reported
that they felt sick. They start getting muscle aches, and they lose
energy. Some of them came back incontinent. In other words, in adult
diapers.
One woman reported that the first night home, she wanted to be
intimate with her husband, but she had absolutely no feeling. She
couldn't feel anything from the waist down. This particulate matter
damages the neuromuscular system, the nerves; it just goes everywhere.
And there's no treatment for it. These particles are very, very
insoluble, so they can't even dissolve in body fluids, so they can be
excreted from the body. Then they keep releasing. Even when uranium
decays, it turns into another radioactive isotope. So it's a particle
that just sits there shooting bullets until you die.
Another problem is that soldiers have crumbling teeth. Teeth just
start falling apart. The uranium replaces calcium in the calcium-
phosphate structure of the teeth. Some have complained about grand mal
seizures, cerebral palsy. Some diseases reported at very high rates in
Air Force and Army soldiers are Parkinson's disease, Lou Gehrig's
disease, and Hodgkin's disease. This is damage to the mitochondria in
the cells and the nerves. The mitochondria make all the energy for the
body, so when you damage mitochondria, another symptom is chronic
fatigue syndrome. There's just not enough energy produced by the body
to function normally.
I found a study in the SanDia Nuclear Weapons Laboratory employee
newsletter in September 2003. They are doing major studies in
mitochondrial disfunction related to Lou Gehrig's, Hodgkin's, and
Parkinson's diseases for veterans. Since it's at a nuclear weapon's
lab, they are fully aware of the health damage.
· ICONOCLAST: Tell me about the tests that detect for DU in
the body.
· MORET: The chromosome test in the best indicator. It's
$5,000. The urine test is a $1,000. If you test positive with the
urine test, you know you're contaminated. If you test negative, it
does not mean that you're not contaminated. It just means that you may
or may not be contaminated but enough hasn't dissolved in your blood
stream to go through your kidneys to be excreted in your urine. Anyone
who goes now cannot avoid being contaminated. Anyone. Anyone. Anyone.
Everyone who goes to the Middle East and Afghanistan will be
contaminated.
The DU issue affects every single living thing on this planet. What
else has that impact? They have altered the genome for the entire
planet forever with this DU. The Pentagon people say, \"You're
exaggerating or you use the uranium word to scare people.\" I don't
care if people believe me or not. All I can say is that over time what
I am saying will actually be an underestimation of the long term
effects.
· What Is Depleted Uranium?
http://www.iconocla st-texas. com/News/ 19news02. htm
· A Scientific Perspective
Interview with Leuren Moret, Geo-ScientistA Military Perspective
Interview with Dr. Doug Rokke, Ph.D, former Director of the U.S. Army
Depleted Uranium Project
http://www.iconocla st-texas. com/News/ 19news04. htm
· A Survivor's Perpsective
Interview with Melissa Sterry, Gulf War Veteran who is surviving the
effects of depleted uranium:
http://www.iconocla st-texas. com/News/ 19news05. htm
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