Subject: Re: 2011 Update: Usenet UFO spOOk-KooK-Trolls List//How to Debunk Anything!
From: "The Patriot" <xxxxxx@charter.net>
Date: 06/03/2011, 17:42
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo,sci.skeptic,alt.conspiracy

"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." 
<science@zzz.com> wrote in message 
news:f814c17f-c19a-4109-b130-2724a8444ecd@d26g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
2011 Update: Usenet UFO spOOk-KooK-Trolls List//How to 
Debunk
Anything!

This list is a public service to those who want to 
constructively and
collectively use these newsgroups.  Do not under any 
circumstance let
these charlatans fool you: The alien presence is the 
highest
classified secret that our Pentagon carefully guards.

America's military and related aerospace industries 
have known about
the Extraterrestrial presence since at least the 1947 
Roswell dual UFO
crashes.  Certain industries have been privy to 
back-engineered alien
technology for over 50 years.  All of this classified 
information is
heavily compartmentalized, with no one group having the 
entire
picture. In addition, civilian-research UFO groups have 
been heavily
infiltrated throughout the decades and UFO researchers 
and witnesses
have been threatened, intimidated and killed.  This 
still goes on to
this very day.  UFO abductees and investigators from 
Dr. Karla Turner
to Jim Keith met some very unexpected deaths.

The body of objective scientific evidence to prove the 
alien presence
is overwhelmingly in the positive and much 
extraordinary information
has been made available. Correspondingly, there would 
be no easy way
to inform the public of the totality of the 
Extraterrestrial
existence, and no one government or military group to 
present it.  The
situation is extremely complex, with some of the data 
quite
disturbing.   The sudden announcement of the true 
reality of ETs would
have a profound effect on Earth's cultural, financial, 
religious, and
social institutions.  In fact, it may be even more 
sinister than that;
there appears to be undeniable proof of a working 
relation between
members of certain Intelligence Agencies; the Pentagon 
and various off-
world races that is totally separate from the hundreds 
or even
thousands of contactee cases from around the Globe.

One needs to factor in the perpetual hybridization 
program of ETs with
humans, the tens of thousands of animal mutilations on 
an ongoing
worldwide basis and the still unexplained phenomenon of 
crop
impressions, some with very complex geometric formulas 
that cannot be
duplicated by mankind.  There also has been 
state-of-the-art
scientific research into investigating alien implants 
implanted in
humans.  The purpose of these alien implants appears to 
be to monitor
and control human behavior.  Likewise, the physics and 
materials
research of the alien craft, some of which have been 
back-engineered
by covert aerospace industries for over 55 years, have 
been
incorporated in American weapons and space programs.

The total purpose of the alien agenda must still remain 
a huge mystery
to the top intelligence communities (NSA, NRO, NSC, 
DIA) that monitor
and control the information flow.  This makes the 
entire
extraterrestrial reality extremely complicated to 
comprehend and
explain to the society at large. These are all good 
reasons for the
continued metered-release of the information, instead 
of the just one
big announcement.  This program seems to be working 
since the majority
of Americans have now heard of ETs, abductions, Area 
51, and other
aspects of the alien presence, and no one seems to be 
panicking, yet!

The spOOks-Kooks-Trolls (SKT) methods are easy to 
decipher, they use
them repeatedly:

* They never address the good evidence in regards to 
the ET reality.
They will never in any meaningful way discuss the good 
scientific work
done on animal mutilations; crop circles and 
pictographs, alien
abductions; trace cases-where the craft lands and 
leaves; recovered
down craft; back engineering of alien craft; surgically 
removed alien
implants, outstanding videos from NASA, etc.

* The SKT's will not argue the evidence, they will 
attack the person
presenting the evidence. This is their top technique, 
make the poster
the center-of-attention, and then follow up each 
other's post with
more nonsense.  The Usenet Debunkers are like a pack of 
hungry wolfs,
the first one makes a snide remark about the poster and 
the others
follow suit.  Flame wars galore. DO NOT LET THIS 
TECHNIQUE FOOL YOU,
there is real good information on these newsgroups!

Other distinguishing features of the 
spOOks-KooKs-Trolls:

*Make comments unrelated to do with the subject matter.
*Have closed minds and can't be bothered by facts.
*Refuse to do a stitch of research on this topic.
*Never get within 50 feet of a witness or researcher.
*Attack any book on the topic (except those by the CIA 
propriety
press: Prometheus).
*Supply gobs and gobs of mis- and dis-information.
*Claim there isn't a credible photo when there has been 
hundreds if
not
thousands of them, as well as thousands of hours of 
videos.
*Straw man attack.-they will fashion a dummy position 
held by a UFO
researcher. Then proceed to rip it apart. Many will 
discredit the
researcher on this false premise.
*Invoke authority.
*Dismiss the charges as "old news."
*Set the criteria for "proof" incredibly high so that 
it could never
be reached.
*Always ignore the first-hand testimony of witnesses to 
the unexpected
credible sightings.
*Practice scientific research by proclamation not 
investigation.
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Now the spOOksKooKs-Trolls list:-(Avoid these posters 
like the
plague):

spOOks

Lou Echelon��� Spin-etti- Agent-Provocateur.
O-Borg - The official "State" UFO debunker.
Borsch-Belt- Usenet-debunker; most likely a spOOk.
Team Adams- "We must cover-up all aspects of the alien 
existence."

KooKs/Trolls:

Hagar- TRUTH terrorists.
Capt. Shitley- Dumb kid.
Twit- 6-time loser.
Sage/Sludge/Hertz -Desperate, bitter old man, 
mean-spirited.
Asf-Wipe-  Cantankerous
Chen De-Stabilizers- Repulsive, mysterious.
Bryson- Despicable.
EEL- Oily.
Anut - Idiotic.
M. Davis- Spaz.
THYROID- Clueless.
Ron Quack - Inarticulate.
Pete Chumpest- Potty-Mouth.
Hutch - Despondent.
Lewis-Copy-Cat, big-time troll
Ugly Bob- Deranged, potty-mouth
Patrick- Elusive, refuses to address voluminous amount 
of evidence
Whorelow-Adds nothing to conversation.
Hugh/Art�s Twin-Desperately seeking attention!
Carl Wilson-Know nothing and proud of it!
Idiot Jeff George Black � Superficial
Hughe/Sucke/Mr.XXX- Queer cross-dresser agenda
Wider Sham � Brain-damaged.
John Griffin- Uninformed
Sir Gilligan � Desperately seeking attention!
Tim Goo-gooian- Uninteresting
Wally Anglesea- Pointless
HVDAC- Head injury.
MIA: Cadwell, Adams, Munro, Imrie, David McGurin, Leo 
Sgouros, Kofff
many others.

This list will be constantly updated for the group's 
benefit.
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Leland palmer <easbun@proaxis.com> responded:

Damn fine points, Charles Stuart.  This twitch fellow 
seems less
interested in science than in putting forth his own 
views, which are
hopelessly past-directed and uninterested in progress.

I have noticed that twitch functions as a 
disinformation spreader.  If
he cannot win an argument by logic and data, he will 
resort to
snipping
and distortion of his opponents' articles.  He gets the 
postings to go
off-topic, then exits for a while - as if sitting back 
and watching
the
chaos he created.  Meanwhile, the subject at hand gets 
buried under
flame wars.  Twitch re-enters the debate occasionally 
to fan the
flames.  I really wonder if responding to him isn't 
causative of more
trouble rather than of real solutions or transmission 
of information.
True, today,  I did criticize his goofy attempt to 
smear the UFO
phenomenon by ad hominem arguments directed at 
individual ufologists -
one certain mark of a demagogue.  But that was more an 
exercise in
plain
speaking than any attempt to sway the fanatical twitch.
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Re: SKEPTIC-sp00k-debunkers/(Update) Meet your 
Newsgroup sp00ks and
kooks
From: soniknrg@aol.com (Sonik NRG)

Ha! Ha! Ha! Holy Guacamole! That's rich! I've got tears 
in my eyes
from
laughing so hard! I don't know who these people are 
that you name in
your list
as I've never heard mention of them outside of this 
newsgroup, but
that list
was funny as hell! I have been noticing though as I 
read through the
threads
that an awful lot of them seem to have no social lives 
whatsoever
except for
writing their little diatribes on this newsgroup on 
almost a daily
basis.
Oh well, I guess it keeps them off the streets. :)
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HV (hvac@workmail.com):
EL....Please Stop Posting

Hi   E.L.  !
Hey don't take this the wrong way but, could you please 
stop posting?
Your
posts are very boring with little in the way of 
information and
absolutely
zero entertainment value.
Thanks.
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This escapee from an Oregon mental institute has 
dredged up ancient items from more than ten years ago. 
I suppose that his main aim is to gain attention. 
Otherwise why bother?