Subject: Re: Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Massive Retreat.
From: "The Patriot" <xxxxxx@charter.net>
Date: 03/11/2011, 18:23
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo,sci.skeptic,alt.conspiracy

"Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA" <science@zzz.com> 
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Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO 
Debunkers in Massive
Retreat.

Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO 
Debunkers in Retreat.

Brian,  Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself 
and from all the
honest
UFO researchers in your efforts to document and 
illuminate the well
proven facts.   The UFO community would also like to 
extend our
gratitude for the work you have done in bringing new 
ideas and solid
information to light.  We are in your debt.   Also, I 
would like to
encourage you to keep up your investigations, for 
they are highly
educational and written in a scholarly manner.

Please don't be put off by those luckless charlatans 
posing as UFO
debunkers.
At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant 
dupes and fools,
"useless idiots" if you will, at worst, they are 
intelligence
community,
low-level assets who can't make it in the real world.
It is a pity they spend so much effort in the 
distortion and
vandalism of good science.  May history view them in 
higher regard
than I do,
they'll need it.

The President himself has called debunkers "useless 
eaters" and "life
unworthy of life."  Truer words have never been 
spoken.  :)

From time to time, it is important for all of us to 
let you know the
outstanding contributions you are making in the field 
and what a
delight and
inspiration it is to have you around.  With your 
valuable assistance,
I'm sure "our" side will win.  The truth always does!

Again, let me declare your efforts were remarkable in 
digging up the
Ames and Sandia connections.  That was impressive, 
and, of course,
highly indicative of the lengths 'they' are going to 
in trying to
control and
cover-up the ET/Alien information.  Bravo!

BRIAN ZEILER RESPONDS:


Brian Zeiler <bdzeiler@anet-chi.com> wrote on Oct. 
19, 1996:
Art Wholeflaffer wrote:

Brian,  Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself 
and from all the honest
UFO researchers in your efforts to document and 
illuminate the well
proven facts.

You're welcome, and thank you.  And let's also not 
forget that I am
too prone to
getting suckered into flame wars with the self-styled 
"skeptics", and
this noise
tends to overshadow the very high quality posts from 
David Rudiak, J.
Walter,
Bill Peterson, and a few others whose contributions 
are appreciated.

Please don't be put off by those luckless charlatans 
posing as UFO debunkers.
At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant 
dupes and fools,
useless "idiots" if you will, at worst, they are 
intelligence community,
low-level assets who can't make it in the real 
world.

Sadly, the vast majority appear to be all too 
sincere.  Rogers, Fun,
McKnight
(where's he been?), etc., are nothing more than 
typical dime-a-dozen
skeptics who
lease their opinions from their masters and overlords 
at CSICOP in a
rather
repugnant display of intellectual incompetence and 
lack of capacity
for
independent reasoning.  Of course, that's due in no 
small part to the
intellectual prostitution of Menzel and Sagan and 
other opinion
leaders who duped
generations of scientists into absorbing a culture of 
UFO ridicule and
rejection
with absolutely no logical basis whatsoever --  
nothing but silly
debunkeries that
invariably collapse under scrutiny along with an 
idiot mantra about
"extraordinariness" which presumes the inductive 
powers of probability
estimation
in the midst of insufficient data.

It's absolutely staggering to see scientific 
leadership deteriorate to
such a
level of stagnancy and ambivalence in research 
effort, coupled with a
total lack
of exposure to the evidence *and* a blinding, 
foaming, raging need to
disbelieve
and debunk with the urgent zeal of a fanatical 
religious nut.  That's
the
scientific treatment of the UFO evidence, all spawned 
by their blind
devotion to
their overlords and masters like Sagan and Menzel. 
Truly
unbelievable.

It is a pity they spend so much effort in the
distortion and vandalism of good science.  May 
history view
them in higher regard than I do, they'll need it.

History will view them as fools -- relentless 
defenders of dogma,
blind fools who
crippled scientific progress in the name of, 
ironically, "science",
which they
fallaciously equate with skepticism, their 
need-to-disbelieve
religion.  History
will show that they undermined that which they sought 
to defend --
good science.

It's truly sad to see human progress and potential 
reflected so feebly
and
pathetically in the scientific community's willful 
blindness to this
discovery,
especially in this age of such revolutionary 
technological progress.
The failure
of science in this aspect -- arguably the biggest 
aspect, the greatest
discovery of all time -- will long be remembered as 
the pox on a
century
otherwise full of conquest and glory, the grandest 
100 years of
science that ever
happened.

The US government will release the goods, but 
probably not for a long
time.  When
they do, the world will instantly view the "UFO 
skeptics" as a group
of
irrational zealots who, rather unfortunately, 
happened to be in
positions of
public influence.

In the meantime, all we can do is observe the UFO 
skeptics and, with a
necessary
sense of humor that enables us to laugh raucously at 
their silly
logic, watch
them struggle to deny, disbelieve, and debunk.  Hey, 
that'll be the
three D's of
modern science's treatment of the UFO evidence...

--
Brian Zeiler

I thought you knew.  Brian Zeiler was arrested in Hong 
Kong years ago and apparently perished in jail.