Subject: Re: Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Massive Retreat.
From: Daniel Wilks
Date: 29/12/2012, 22:56
Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo

On Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:42:58 AM UTC-6, Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA wrote:
Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Massive

Retreat.



Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Retreat.



Brian,  Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself and from all the

honest

UFO researchers in your efforts to document and illuminate the well

proven facts.   The UFO community would also like to extend our

gratitude for the work you have done in bringing new ideas and solid

information to light.  We are in your debt.   Also, I would like to

encourage you to keep up your investigations, for they are highly

educational and written in a scholarly manner.



Please don't be put off by those luckless charlatans posing as UFO

debunkers.

At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant dupes and fools,

"useless idiots" if you will, at worst, they are intelligence

community,

low-level assets who can't make it in the real world.

It is a pity they spend so much effort in the distortion and

vandalism of good science.  May history view them in higher regard

than I do,

they'll need it.



From time to time, it is important for all of us to let you know the

outstanding contributions you are making in the field and what a

delight and

inspiration it is to have you around.  With your valuable assistance,

I'm sure "our" side will win.  The truth always does!



Again, let me declare your efforts were remarkable in digging up the

Ames and Sandia connections.  That was impressive, and, of course,

highly indicative of the lengths 'they' are going to in trying to

control and

cover-up the ET/Alien information.  Bravo!



BRIAN ZEILER RESPONDS:





Brian Zeiler <bdzeiler@anet-chi.com> wrote on Oct. 19, 1996:

Art Wholeflaffer wrote:



Brian,  Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself and from all the honest

UFO researchers in your efforts to document and illuminate the well

proven facts.



You're welcome, and thank you.  And let's also not forget that I am

too prone to

getting suckered into flame wars with the self-styled "skeptics", and

this noise

tends to overshadow the very high quality posts from David Rudiak, J.

Walter,

Bill Peterson, and a few others whose contributions are appreciated.



Please don't be put off by those luckless charlatans posing as UFO debunkers.

At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant dupes and fools,

useless "idiots" if you will, at worst, they are intelligence community,

low-level assets who can't make it in the real world.



Sadly, the vast majority appear to be all too sincere.  Rogers, Fun,

McKnight

(where's he been?), etc., are nothing more than typical dime-a-dozen

skeptics who

lease their opinions from their masters and overlords at CSICOP in a

rather

repugnant display of intellectual incompetence and lack of capacity

for

independent reasoning.  Of course, that's due in no small part to the

intellectual prostitution of Menzel and Sagan and other opinion

leaders who duped

generations of scientists into absorbing a culture of UFO ridicule and

rejection

with absolutely no logical basis whatsoever -- nothing but silly

debunkeries that

invariably collapse under scrutiny along with an idiot mantra about

"extraordinariness" which presumes the inductive powers of probability

estimation

in the midst of insufficient data.



It's absolutely staggering to see scientific leadership deteriorate to

such a

level of stagnancy and ambivalence in research effort, coupled with a

total lack

of exposure to the evidence *and* a blinding, foaming, raging need to

disbelieve

and debunk with the urgent zeal of a fanatical religious nut.  That's

the

scientific treatment of the UFO evidence, all spawned by their blind

devotion to

their overlords and masters like Sagan and Menzel.  Truly

unbelievable.



It is a pity they spend so much effort in the

distortion and vandalism of good science.  May history view

them in higher regard than I do, they'll need it.



History will view them as fools -- relentless defenders of dogma,

blind fools who

crippled scientific progress in the name of, ironically, "science",

which they

fallaciously equate with skepticism, their need-to-disbelieve

religion.  History

will show that they undermined that which they sought to defend --

good science.



It's truly sad to see human progress and potential reflected so feebly

and

pathetically in the scientific community's willful blindness to this

discovery,

especially in this age of such revolutionary technological progress.

The failure

of science in this aspect -- arguably the biggest aspect, the greatest

discovery of all time -- will long be remembered as the pox on a

century

otherwise full of conquest and glory, the grandest 100 years of

science that ever

happened.



The US government will release the goods, but probably not for a long

time.  When

they do, the world will instantly view the "UFO skeptics" as a group

of

irrational zealots who, rather unfortunately, happened to be in

positions of

public influence.



In the meantime, all we can do is observe the UFO skeptics and, with a

necessary

sense of humor that enables us to laugh raucously at their silly

logic, watch

them struggle to deny, disbelieve, and debunk.  Hey, that'll be the

three D's of

modern science's treatment of the UFO evidence...



--

Brian Zeiler

show physical proof that is able to be investigated by multiple sources.