Re: Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Massive Retreat.
Subject: Re: Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Massive Retreat.
From: Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA
Date: 05/01/2013, 00:57
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,alt.paranet.ufo,sci.skeptic

On Jan 1, 9:27 am, BruceS <bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 01/01/2013 09:18 AM, Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:









On Dec 31 2012, 9:32 am, BruceS <bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2012 09:44 AM, Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:

On Dec 31, 7:04 am, BruceS <bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 12/31/2012 01:14 AM, Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA wrote:
<snip>
So why don’t you and Casanobrain and Horry go chase some hedge-hogs or
stealth blimps.     Good luck.

Any time you want to leave Usenet, you're free to do so.

There's a stealth blimp waiting for you with some time-compressed
crash-test dummies, you dummy.

NO MORE DEBUNKERS!!

LOL, I'm being threatened by Artie!  Oh noes!

We have ONCE AGAIN examined your response and we have unilaterally
decided that
it is not credible.  Time is short and we must now start Operation:
Neutralize All Debunkers ((ONAD)).

If we fail, This Island Earth will fail; needless to say that is NOT
an option.

Please forward a list of ALL debunkers, and all debunkers supporters,
sympathizers and enablers.  They will also be dealt with.

Thanks in advance,

Sir A

This is your only warning for 2013 > until the NEXT one.  Let us hope
there won't be a next time.

Surrender NOW debunkers at your nearest FEMA camp.

good luck,

With that, you have forced my hand.  I have no choice but to take
unilateral action, exercising my role as arbiter and judge of these
newsgroups.  Effective immediately, all debunkers, skeptics, and others
who simply find Artie's ravings amusing, are entitled to post as much as
they like to these groups.  Such people are encouraged to mock his
continuing Usenet impotence, and to laugh (as required for good health)
at his attempts to pretend some sort of power over us.  Artie, I
checked, and it turns out I can't put a time limit on this measure, as
such time limits exceed my authority.  Instead, it's a permanent,
unlimited license for anyone to post what they want.  You brought this
on your own head, so don't bother trying to blame me.

May Gore have mercy on our LOLs.

No more nonsense from debunker-alien-infiltrators.  We know who you
are, we know what you are doing and WE THE PEOPLE have declared EARTH
for humans (sans debunkers)!

EARTH SHALL PREVAIL.

Now move along debunkers, your time is just about up.  SURRENDER
NOW!!!

Brian Zeiler, You’re Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Retreat.

Brian,  Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself and from all the
honest UFO researchers in your efforts to document and illuminate the
well proven facts.   The UFO community would also like to extend our
gratitude for the work you have done in bringing new ideas and solid
information to light.  We are in your debt.   Also, I would like to
encourage you to keep up your investigations, for they are highly
educational and written in a scholarly manner.
Please don’t be put off by those luckless charlatans posing as UFO
debunkers.  At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant dupes and
fools, “useless idiots” if you will, at worst, they are intelligence
community, low-level assets who can’t make it in the real world.  It
is a pity they spend so much effort in the distortion and vandalism of
good science.  May history view them in higher regard than I do,
they’ll need it.

From time to time, it is important for all of us to let you know the
outstanding contributions you are making in the field and what a
delight and inspiration it is to have you around.  With your valuable
assistance, I’m sure “our” side will win.  The truth always does!

Again, let me declare your efforts were remarkable in digging up the
Ames and Sandia connections.  That was impressive, and, of course,
highly indicative of the lengths ‘they’ are going to in trying to
control and cover-up the ET/Alien information.  Bravo!
BRIAN ZEILER RESPONDS:

Brian Zeiler <bdzei...@anet-chi.com> wrote on Oct. 19, 1996:
Art Wholeflaffer wrote:

•     Brian,  Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself and from
all
the honest
•     UFO researchers in your efforts to document and illuminate the
well
•     proven facts.

You’re welcome, and thank you.  And let’s also not forget that I am
too prone to getting suckered into flame wars with the self-styled
“skeptics”, and this noise tends to overshadow the very high quality
posts from David Rudiak, J. Walter, Bill Peterson, and a few others
whose contributions are appreciated.
•     Please don’t be put off by those luckless charlatans posing as
UFO
debunkers.
•     At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant dupes and
fools,
•     useless “idiots” if you will, at worst, they are intelligence
community,
•     low-level assets who can’t make it in the real world.

Sadly, the vast majority appear to be all too sincere.  Rogers, Fun,
McKnight (where’s he been?), etc., are nothing more than typical dime-
a-dozen skeptics who lease their opinions from their masters and
overlords at CSICOP in a rather repugnant display of intellectual
incompetence and lack of capacity for independent reasoning.  Of
course, that’s due in no small part to the intellectual prostitution
of Menzel and Sagan and other opinion leaders who duped generations of
scientists into absorbing a culture of UFO ridicule and rejection with
absolutely no logical basis whatsoever—nothing but silly debunkeries
that invariably collapse under scrutiny along with an idiot mantra
about “extraordinariness” which presumes the inductive powers of
probability estimation in the midst of insufficient data.

It’s absolutely staggering to see scientific leadership deteriorate to
such a level of stagnancy and ambivalence in research effort, coupled
with a total lack of exposure to the evidence and a blinding, foaming,
raging need to disbelieve and debunk with the urgent zeal of a
fanatical religious nut.  That’s the scientific treatment of the UFO
evidence, all spawned by their blind devotion to their overlords and
masters like Sagan and Menzel.  Truly unbelievable.
•     It is a pity they spend so much effort in the
•     distortion and vandalism of good science.  May history view
•     them in higher regard than I do, they’ll need it.

History will view them as fools—relentless defenders of dogma, blind
fools who crippled scientific progress in the name of, ironically,
“science”, which they fallaciously equate with skepticism, their need-
to-disbelieve religion.  History will show that they undermined that
which they sought to defend—good science.
It’s truly sad to see human progress and potential reflected so feebly
and pathetically in the scientific community’s willful blindness to
this discovery, especially in this age of such revolutionary
technological progress.  The failure of science in this aspect—
arguably the biggest aspect, the greatest discovery of all time—will
long be remembered as the pox on a century otherwise full of conquest
and glory, the grandest 100 years of science that ever happened.

The US government will release the goods, but probably not for a long
time.  When they do, the world will instantly view the “UFO skeptics”
as a group of irrational zealots who, rather unfortunately, happened
to be in positions of public influence.
In the meantime, all we can do is observe the UFO skeptics and, with a
necessary sense of humor that enables us to laugh raucously at their
silly logic, watch them struggle to deny, disbelieve, and debunk.
Hey, that’ll be the three D’s of modern science’s treatment of the UFO
evidence...

--
Brian Zeiler