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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:24:20 +0100 (CET), Secwet Woger
<mixmaster@eleitl.dyndns.org> wrote:
: 
: Backpedal Boy Stagger Lee whined:
: 
: >It was very much like the time you were totally f*cked up about 
: SWR
: >and line losses, and you invoked the supposed authority of a
: >correspondence school teacher in an effort to climb back out of 
: the
: >hole (oops: that's spelled "whole" according to you) that you'd 
: dug
: >for yourself.  The teacher vindicated my position in the email 
: you
: >reposted, but you didn't even realize it until it was too late.
: 
: What a backpedal, Backpedal Boy, after the Devry (not a 
: 'correspondence school' per se) Professor got over laughing at 
: your stupid ignorant ass, he<STOMP!>

Indeed, SWR Boy.  Let's revisit your original post, recorded on Google
as Message-ID: <8C71YHSI37921.3957175926@anonymous.poster>.  In it you said:

"If you use the formula correctly, which maybe those coke-bottle
bottomed glasses prohibits you from doing so, you wouldn't make a
complete ass of yourself. But from reading your posts, I suppose you
just can't help yourself.

"Here's an example of using that formula, you gutless chickenshit.

"Here's the formula, so you can write it down when you sober up:

"LOSS dB -10 log ((SWR-1)/(SWR+1))

"Let's say the SWR is 3:1 and figure the loss:

"-10 log ((3-1)/(3+1))= approximately 3dB loss"

You clearly believed the formula was always correct, and then posted
what was supposed to be proof by its author.  Unfortunately for you,
the author explicitly stated that it applies only to the special cases
of a shorted or open termination.

To quote from your own post, Mr. Wheeler stated:

"Terminating a perfect, lossless transmission line with an open or short
 will result in an infinite SWR at the input end because all of the
 reflected signal makes it back to the signal source. However, real lines
 have loss, and this causes the reflected signal to weaken as it moves
 back towards the signal source, hence the fall in SWR as one gets
 farther from the load.

"The only problem one might have in employing the technique is that some
 reflectance gear (like the MFJ) might not like certain impedance
 combinations on a line (as you move down the line, there will be points
 where the impedance is purely real, capacitive, inductive, etc), and at
 certain positions the gear may not be able to deliver an accurate or
 consistent reading.

"I hope this explanation helps. I left out the mathematical discussion
 from the book since it is not really appropriate there.

 73,
 Tom Wheeler"

Do you see the part about terminating a transmission line with an open or
short circuit?

DO YOU SEE THAT????

It means that the formula you gave only works for a special case.  It
means that you screwed up.

Your inability to factually recall your own posts could be a sign of
incipient mental illness.

Get help.