In article <407c1230@news.orcon.net.nz>, robertwm@orcon.net.nz says...
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I do live in hope to see good SF story lines and we do get them, but only in the very best SF programmes and then only 10% of the
time max.  Ones to look out for are Stargate SG1 (vastly improved since its cheesy beginnings), Deep Space Nine, the odd Voyager
show, and my fav - Babylon 5 (which I feel deeply betrayed at its pathetic U turn endings).
With the exception of episodes that were just there for padding, the serries just got more and more exciting.  Until when Sheridan
on Zahadom spoke to one of the 'First Ones'.

Where did your species come from? - 'Sheridan
We have always been here, from when the Universe started - 'First One'

My thoughts/emotions - Thud smash crash splat and despair - where's the off button?
Who ever wrote that dribble should be pilloried.  Here was a complete lack of understanding of even the most basic aspects of the
simplest tenants of science, and current knowledge.
I did watch the rest of the remaining shows with no more than a 10th of my previous pleasure.  Here was an opportunity to slaughter
some sacred cows (a required feature of good SF), instead I was watching a plug for creationism!

Ummm how do you get that as a plug for Creationism? First Lorien (the 
1st one you mention) claimed to be the 1st Sentient life form, not the 
creator of life. He specifically denied being a creator saying only the 
universe can create life.

Second JMS (the creator of B5 and primary writer of the show) is an 
avowed atheist. That does not stop him from writing characters with 
strong religious beliefs, but he does not believe in a creator. Nor does 
B5 espouse such a viewpoint.