could be an infamous lloyd parker also...
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=lloyd%20parker&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wg
???

Hunh?  Do I smell Lllloyd Davies?

That "unfallen and immortal" sounds pretty good.  Gotta be hot babes in
the mix.  How come God doesn't require them to beat themselves over the
head with guilt?  Or is (your) God an Earthling speciality that anybody
else in the universe might be too ignorant to figure out-or have already
done so?