Subject: Re: On The Latest BOINC SNAFU
From: "Stratcat" <none@no.org>
Date: 02/08/2004, 22:05
Newsgroups: alt.sci.seti

"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahoo-mung.co.nz> wrote in message
news:2hgOc.6902$N77.364375@news.xtra.co.nz...

<snipage throughout>

I pretty much agree with everything you said Strat.

If you were a women, I'd make you my wife! ;-)

About the statswhore
thing (love the term BTW), I'm the founder of a team and there are a few
statswhores in it. I (maybe foolishly) advised the team to switch to BOINC
early and I've been getting grumbles over the past week from people saying
they've been crunching 24/7 for a week on fifteen Cray's and have no
credit
showing. (Ok, I exaggerate a little). Now I gotta tell 'em they won't get
any credit for that week? Hmm, my popularity rating is gonna be at an
all-time low (and you know how important that is to me <g>).

When you choose to be a leader, you get the glory, or you get the crap.
At least you had the guts to do something. That's worth a lot, in my book.

Maybe I was premature suggesting to the team that moving to BOINC was a
good
idea. However I'd been part of the beta-test team and it seemed to be
going
well. It had certainly gone on for a while. I don't want to be a
Berkeley-knocker but man, they had quite a few volunteers for quite a
while
on the beta project, you think they would have got it right.

Yeah, it's senselees to even go there any more. Everything worthwhile to
say has already been said. But all this clamor on both sides of the issue,
is IMO, a good thing. At least it shows peeps are passionate about SAH.

I'm a bit of a statswhore myself

Heh. Takes one to know one, eh? ;-)

I must admit that I like the idea that a small
team I started and continue to nurture was in the top 100.

I haven't experienced it, but I think I can relate to the feeling. Remember
how I've toyed w/starting an alt.guitar.fender n/g, and also bounced back
the alt.sci.boinc idea?

I have mobo's and
CPU's scattered throughout the house and cables everywhere.

Except for my wive's PC, my others aren't even bottoned up. My removable
drives are sittin' on the top of the case frames, and I'd have to search for
the case covers. I've got another mobo to fill, and I'm considering getting
a Prescott, and skipping the case, and just let it run as a collection of
parts on a bookcase shelve. Save some money, and cooling hassles!

(How can I run
two mobo's off one PSU? I'm short of PSU's and funds).

Easy; Just splice another ATX connector on to the PSU's original, and plug
it into another mobo. I have NOT done this myself, but peeps on my team
have, in the past. IIRC correctly, powering on one sys will cause it to
boot, and will also pwr up the other sys, but the 2nd sys will not
auto-boot, unless you press both power buttons w/i that several seconds
window, when you 1st press either machine's power button.

Besides sufficient running pwr, the only other concern would be start-up
surge current, as I see it.

 >o far I've been
relying on force of personality to get members, it would have been nice to
say "Join a top-100 team" and give my over-worked personality a rest. <g>.
Last time I looked we'd slipped to 126 or so, just above Carolyn's Clinic.

Must feel pretty good, even if temporary. They're a large team, and were my
other consideration, before I joined TLC.

Anyway, I wish Berkeley would be more communicative.

Communication during probs is ALWAYS a good thing. I'm with
you a 100%, here.

Is the problem fixed
now? Or should I maybe turn my machines off for a night so we can afford
to
eat at least once this week?

If the outage goes long enough, the decision may be out of your hands,
unless you want to try another project.

I'm very happy running two different projects. Since I joined ARS,
I've run in at least 3 or 4 gauntlets as member of a sub-team w/i ARS.
This exposed me to other projects I would otherwise never have run.
These gauntlets are short competitions, usually lasting about a month.
It was a nice education getting other proj's clients to run, and just
running the other proj's, themselves. There's a huge spectrum in the way
projects are run, and how the clients function. It was enlightening getting
out of the "SETI only" box.
-- Strat