On 7 Aug 2004 11:30:37 -0700, Richard Alexander <pooua@aol.com> wrote:

"newsreader" <newsreader@charterinternet.net> wrote in message news:<10h9jvd6mec9eae@corp.supernews.com>...

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I argue that there is no known
evidence by which life would arise by supernatural intervention. 

I have no problem integrating your comment into my point, which is, we
have no reason to suppose there is ET life. I addressed the
materialistic possibility, and you addressed your concept of the
supernatural possibility. The conclusion is the same: There is no
reason to expect ET life.

For over a century, thermodynamicists have labored to explain how life
fits into what are presumed to be the laws of thermodynamics.  In a
universe where entropy (disorder) is supposed to increase, life
manages to take the opposite path and become better organized and
lower its entropy as the eons go by.  Even Gibbs - the father of
thermodynamics - was unsure of how to include life into his
mathematics.

The atheists have no reasonable answer for this recognized problem,
but the theists among us don't see a problem at all.  To anyone who
has accepted the existence of God, life's apparent violation of the
second "law" of thermodynamics causes no discomfort.

The fact that evolution runs contrary to thermodynamics is an
inconvenient fact which the anti-God crowd would rather forget about
when they attempt to use evolution as a denial of God.

If there is a God, and if He has communicated with mankind, then
perhaps the bible and other holy books aren't something which should
be dismissed out of hand.

And if those ancient books are correct, ET doesn't exist.

May you all achieve salvation,
Lloyd