Please give the coordinates for "where Christ is" or does this exist
in a speritaul plane only? 

 Easter remember celebrates the PHYSICAL reserection of Christ.
Christians believe that Christ first decended "His physical body -
every atom of his existance  into hell and subsequently after
setteling presumed debts he assended physically into heven.  The
importance of the empty crypt  implies Christ's physical body made it
to both locations rather fast. 

According to you I am destined to become an occupant in hell.  If you
could provide the actual location of heven and  hell  It would lend
some creditability to your fantasy.  I have looked up and have not
seen it. Others with better equipment have looked up and not seen it.
The bible states that our bodies will be restored to us and that it is
in the worldly body that we will meet our just reward.

Yes there was a human being that existed about 2000 years ago and who
was executed on the cross that we have come to refer to as the Christ.
AKA Jesus. The meaning of his life and beliefs have been warped beyond
recognition by religion.

There is little point in using a statement in the Bible to validate a
belief  in what the bible says. That is a circular argumant.

My belief is that everything in the universe is made from products of
the origional creation and and any one part or colection of parts of
it is not better than any other part or collection of parts.  You and
I and the Earth as well are but insignificant parts of HER origional
creation.



On 9 Aug 2004 22:08:57 GMT, "Lloyd" <lloyd@no.spam> wrote:

On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 13:13:21 -0700, John Owens top posted:

Isn't it comforting that the popular superstitions which always offer
an outdated and discredited answer to almost all meaningful questions
have such sway in a modern world. Science be damned. Logic be damned.
Common sense be damned.  

The only unique thing that humans have accomplished, that other
species haen't, is that we are the only species that has invented
religion. We can't just accept the fact that all that "is" was not
created for our own exclusive pleasure or torment.

"If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are
above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your
minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth. For
you have died, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ
who is our life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: fornication, impurity,
passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account
of these the wrath of God is coming." (Col. 3:1-6)