Subject: Re: SETI@home message boards???
From: "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahoo-mungo.co.nz>
Date: 07/09/2004, 00:11
Newsgroups: alt.sci.seti

Locutus wrote:
"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahoo-mungo.co.nz> wrote in news:ZqM_c.22205
$N77.965952@news.xtra.co.nz:

Locutus wrote:

Although the Classic message boards may be down the BOINC boards are
up at this url http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_index.php

About the only thing about BOINC that is up, I'm running out of work
*again*. I'm getting to the stage where I'm getting more frustration
than satisfaction from this whole exercise.

I guess that'll teach me to be an 'early adopter'.
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~misfit~




There are other projects other than S@H. I am still crunching while
seti is down. check this url http://boinc.berkeley.edu/

I know a lot of people are jumping to other projects because they're
dissapointed in SETI-BOINC.

<Puts conspiracy-theory hat on> Do you think that Berkeley could be
knobbling SETI-BOINC deliberately to serve up some users to other BOINC
projects? I know quite a few who have jumped ship, including a guy who
crunched over 25,000 SETI classic units and has a 'farm', running seven PCs.
After all, BOINC is as much a Berkeley project as SETI and CPDN always
seemed to be a step ahead of SETI while not having the benefit of being at
Berkeley. Strange.

Hmmm, it all makes sense. Berkeley want a strangle-hold on distributed
computing and, to get other projects on board told them that they would
serve up a whole bunch of (irate) ex-SETI cruchers. They would 'leak' the
software, announce they now have to release it early*, then put on a show of
fumbling it, all the while mentioning the other participants. Quite an
incentive to use BOINC rather than develop and maintain your own DC client.
That way Berkeley gets a slice of the pie of all the people who are into DC
but *not* into searching for aliens as other projects sign up and transfer
their user-base.

There has been a theory around for quite a while that Berkeley is using our
computers for God-knows-what while pretending to be searching for aliens.
There has been talk of military projects etc. If that actually were the case
(and I'd never given it a second of credence before the current fiasco)
surely they'd be better off with access to even more PC's? Not just the PC's
that belong to geeky alien-hunters, what about appealing to people by
talking climate prediction (No more 'surprise' hurricanes) or cancer
research (Granny could still be alive)? You'd get a lot bigger user-base
that way. I'm still trying to rationalise the seemingly casual way that
Berkeley are "giving away" a large portion of their user-base, and it's the
early adopters too, the ones who tend to run the fastest machines and have
farms. The power-crunchers.

Ya know what? I'm gonna go back to classic until it's closed down and then
have a serious re-thing about this whole DC thing. After more than five
years with SETI I'm begining to have second thoughts. Maybe I should lay of
the cocaine. (Just kidding folks, it's easier to get weapons-grade plutonium
in NZ than it is to get cocaine. Or so I'm told. <glances around>, shit,
I've said too much) :-)

*: You know what gets me? The story is SETI-BOINC was leaked before it was
ready for prime-time so Berkeley rushed the release. Why? So what if it was
leaked? If the servers didn't have any units to give it made no difference
if it was leaked or not, it was unusable.
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~misfit~