| Subject: Re: How are we defining Inteligence? |
| From: Paul Bramscher |
| Date: 15/09/2004, 19:49 |
| To: Joseph Lazio <jlazio@adams.patriot.net> |
| Newsgroups: alt.sci.seti,sci.astro.seti |
Joseph Lazio wrote:
"PB" == Paul Bramscher <brams006_nospam@tc.umn.edu> writes:
PB> Linda wrote:
What's SETI looking for? Life forms able to communicate with us?
Life intelligent enough to communicate with other similar life
forms? Life that can communicate with my dog? How are the various
SETI projects defining what they are searching for?
PB> I see this thread is a week old, but I like to insert my two bits
PB> here. SETI, I think, should really be caused SETB or the Search
PB> for Extra-terrestrial Behavior.
Jill Tarter often says something similar (search for extraterrestrial
technology or technomarkers). The problem with changing the term is
not scientific, it's sociological. Everybody already knows the term
SETI.
True. We might suggest that "intelligence" is overly subject to
philosophical wrangling (and therefore less readily quantified or
qualified), whereas "behavior" can be cleanly selected in functional
terms as a specific sort of behavior (radio or optical transmitting, for
example)
That is, it's concievable that an intelligent species (whatever the
operative definition for "intelligence") does not opt to transmit, or
uses some other communications technology. So the search for
"intelligence" will fail, automatically, in both cases against a given
search methodology -- whether or not the intelligence exists. But a
search for a particular sort of behavior will not fail in the same sense
-- since it's not purporting to find intelligence, but rather a
particular "residue" we might associate with a particular train of
intelligence.
This is probably just semantic nit-picking. Though it's interesting to
examine the anthropological term "material culture." It's not merely a
shortcut to describe artifacts, but it also suggests that cultural
generalizations might be derived from material remains. With SETI I
suggest that the "I" in SETI enjoys a parallel problem in archaeology.
Archaeologists don't search for culture directly, but rather the search
for (physical) artifacts which might reveal something about culture that
produced them.
If only we aactually could search for intelligence directly, bypassing
the behavioral "residue" requirement. In archaeology there's also a
parallel. By finding skeletal remains we might examine the cranial
capacity and make some generalizations about the state of cognitive
advancement. Not the same thing, but quite useful nonetheless.
So if there was some chemical marker in the cosmos which allow us to
find advanced organisms directly (not indirectly, via technological or
chemical markers of behavior) we might open up a whole new aspect to
SETI. Would be nice to have a hypothetical "DNA telescope."