Rob Dekker wrote:

"Martin 53N 1W" <ml_news@ddnospamddml1dd.co.uk.dd> wrote in message

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If you have a _serious_ proposal backed up by well argued and well researched methods, then you could try offering you proposal for consideration...

I'd like to do that, because seti is definely a passion of mine, but
I want to know that I'm solving a problem that is relevant. So I
first need to understand the problems that are currently facing seti@home.

But the problem I think is that there is just not enough scientific
and technical info coming out of Werthimer's group. Not what the

That is always a problem for most scientific groups! (;-))


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done, not what is done, no plan of what to do when data increases 10
fold, not anything. The seti@home group seems to be always busy.

This is new bleeding edge research. They are busy on the edge already. The next steps are still likely shrouded in the 'unknown'...

Also, where do I send inquiries or requests ? No email posted
anywhere... After we are done processing a work unit, information

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Here and in other scientific forums, or at night school even. Sorry, but you've got to get yourself informed to a level such that you can contribute beyond running Boinc. s@h cannot afford to tutor more than what they do already via their web sites. (Unless you're lucky enough to be lectured at their campus as a student (:-))

For example, we still dont know all the details about this signal

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In many ways, noone does. A 'signal' happened to be recorded three times. Whether it can be called the /same/ signal is highly questionable.

And it gets worse : there is no indication that Werthimer is going to
 re-observe this (or any other high-scoring) signal in the

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This one instance has been passed off as being of no further interest. Others will be looked at and any that pass observation tests will undoubtably get seized upon very quickly!


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After all, it's pathetic that after 5 years of analyzing data, we
dont even have a Rio level 1 signal (insignificant) or level 2 (low)
signal. http://seti1.setileague.org/iaaseti/rioscale.htm.

We've given the Universe a half-hearted fleetingly quick and ridiculously cheap glance from just one radio telescope. It would be worrying for the implied /high/ /preponderance/ of seti beacons if we had found anything so soon!

Actually, Werthimer's conclusion that signal SHGb02+14a is Rio level
0 (zero probability, no importance) of being of ET origin, is really
strange. How can he know there is zero probablility ? Does he know
something we don't ? Or does he just say this to silence the media,
and it is actually a Level 2 or 3 signal.. ?

And your evidence is?

I'd rather believe a scientist with a good career than the ignorant media!!!

So, I think the real problem is that there is not enough info coming
out of Werthimer's group. Especially not about the final 'candidate'
selection and Rio - scale rating and selection process.

Yes... How to usefully inform people is a continuing problem...


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Many things are possible!

Yes. If we know which problem needs to be solved... But I'm not
convinced that problem is technical at this point...

There is always a balancing act as to where time and resources are devoted. Everyone isn't going to be happy all of the time...


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Happy searchin',
Martin