| Subject: Re: How are we defining Inteligence? |
| From: Paul Bramscher |
| Date: 20/09/2004, 14:12 |
| Newsgroups: alt.sci.seti,sci.astro.seti |
Peter Hickman wrote:
Paul Bramscher wrote:
Why? Intelligent, mammalian and non-mammalian cooperative life on
Earth all developed along social considerations. Herds, tribes,
cities, hives, etc. Clusters or communities may be better hallmarks
(though not exclusive) of intelligence and cooperation than most.
This is probably necessary but certainly not sufficient. Algae forms
clusters as do slime molds even to the extent of symbiotic clusters with
other molds. But I would not attribute and intelligence to slime mold or
algae.
That's right -- and why I added the "though not exclusive" caveat in my
post above. A sort of "all dogs are mammals, but not all mammals are
dogs" problem.
So what makes intelligent symbiotic clusters different from
non-intelligent ones? I'll aruge that Anthony's post in this thread has
some merit. Straight lines, large-scale geometry (which nature seems to
abhor), and redistribution of certain chemistry (especially metals)
might have something to do with it.
Birds congregate by the tens of thousands during nesting, but they don't
great large-scale geometry. They can and do modify the chemistry of the
environment (through their droppings, etc.) but the signature of a city
is significantly different than the signature of algae mats, bird
droppings, a buffalo herd's grazing range, etc.