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"Martin 53N 1W" <ml_news@ddnospamddml1dd.co.uk.dd> wrote in message

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Time and expense? those are truely human concepts and utterley

meaningless

with regard to the advanced technologies to which you allude.

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For what purpose and to what end?

Hi Martin,

My response was partly in jest, but my point was, that it is far to
easy to jump to assumptions based on our own history and beliefs as
well as current state of technology. (Bit like Neandertal man trying
to second guess what you or I might be doing for dinner today).

Yes, and very true.

I was taking the jest another step with comparing them to the s@h stats junkies that have recently done all the very loud squirming with boinc.

I was also questioning your anthropomorphicism in taking a Sci-Fi TV series idea. Also, referring to the original quote, why indeed would the Borg want to sully their collective intelligence with our comparative non-intelligence?...

Such 'stats junkies' Borg or similar might exist and operate on completely different 'world rules' to ourselves. To try to make a 'realistic' hypothesis, we are limited by what we presently know and understand of 'reality'. The Borg motivations for action may well be alien to what we presume is 'reasonable'.

Then again, so far we have seen no positive evidence of anything radically beyond our presently known reality.

And then there is Science Fiction, which is still restricted by what is /presently/ thought 'acceptable' or vaguely 'plausible'...

Are they just stats crazed junkies obsessed with adding a few more assimilations to dilute their collective?...

Just like most humans then :-) and in another few centuries we could
be closer to the Borg than we care to belive right now (evolution).

We are getting frighteningly close to that already with all the intrusive monitoring and directed marketing that is foisted upon us. Further use of 'electronic transactions' and physical tracking devices (eg, mobile phones, rf-id chips/tags) will push us closer to the 'mass marketing borg'. A big question is whether society and our culture can embrace it easily or well (including new IT, and the freely available very personal information with it).

and Ho is? based on which latest research results? Though I do
understand your point, but I have an open mind as to wether or not we
will always remained constrained by c.

The time and distance that is implied is the real constraint. The Hubble constant implies that we may well get islands of intelligence, but that they may then get too greatly separated from any other islands to be able to interact with any others. (In any ways that we know of at present (:-P)

Wormholes anyone?

What is "theoretically" possible may even be practical in a mere 250
to 1000 years time, given the exponetial advances in technology. http://www.newscientist.com/hottopics/quantum/

Usually, our present society is assumed. Society and politics must advance in step with whatever new technologies.

Just as too great a poverty to wealth gap promotes rioting and social collapse, how great a gap can we tolerate in our society for education/technology?

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Regards,
Martin