Subject: Re: Classic S@H Lots of Life in "Spot ET" from new members and long term WU cruchers
From: f/f george
Date: 20/12/2004, 16:53
Newsgroups: alt.sci.seti

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:09:24 -0000, "rcdriver"
<rcdriver22@uknets.co.uknojunk> wrote:

Science MUST evolve towards bigger and better things! Science that is 
still looking for the wheel has long since become outdated!
Seti too must evolve, one of the ways is thru Boinc. Seti IS still  being 
done thu Boinc! Boinc just allows lots of other scientific
projects to piggyback along and users can choose which project or 
projects they wish to crunch for! Yes new and exciting scientific
analysis is being done! Yes the data is being looked at in all new  ways! 
No the data is not being analysed by 20 different people just to
verify the result. Each unit is sent out to 3 people and if they all  come 
back with the same, or at least scientifically the same, then the
unit is classified as crunched and it is not sent out again. In  Classic, 
that is what regular Seti is called, the same unit could be
sent out 1000 or more  times if they were running low on units.

In short, join us over in Boinc or you will have to go elsewhere to 
crunch! When will this happen, when Boinc has around 6000,000 users!
We are on a steady climb and the end is in sight, but it is not going  to 
be reached tomorrow!

My opening points were not against the progress of science,  I was pointing 
out as a very new member that there is a very large group of 'new members' 
that we are still actively today crunching WU of defunct data. To what 
purpose? That there are also those still participating who have years 
invested. When the regular Seti system was known to be obsolete did anyone 
think to stop the futile effort and postpone taking on 'new members' to a 
defunct process? Obviously, there is an over resource and capacity to crunch 
data, but that does not mean you abuse the trust of the participants and 
certainly you do not waste their time (or their computers). Is that really 
being fair to those who may have invested in some small effort to find it 
was all flawed to be switched off unilaterally.

I fully support and agree that areas of science should evolve. however, if 
I am to be some kind of 'beta tester' I'd like to know up front. When the 
Classic Seti server is switched off and the lights are off, the hope is that 
we will all just jump to Boinc, some how I doubt it.

Paul

I am "a long time" cruncher! I currently do BOTH Callasic and Boinc. I
have some machines that are not going to go over to Boinc EVER! I have
a laptop that is crunching Classic, a dual 300mhz server, soon to be
450mhz hopefully, and 2 win98se machines that will just be replaced
with faster motherboards when the time comes. The last 2 will then go
over to Boinc.

my stats are:
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SETI@home user for: 5.013 years 
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