David Woolley wrote:

In article <d2kpkb$20e$1@tioat.ath.cx>, "QoJ" <justabitch@dodgeit.com> wrote:

Well it has seti in the group name and somebody created this group and there
should have been a charter so now I wonder what the charter says.

First of all it is important to note that Berkeley do not receive alt 

Why do you assume this?