Eric wrote:

Martin 53N 1W wrote:

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Boinc is still new and is still getting new functionality added. Seti
classic is now very old and staid and long-in-the-tooth and can't do any
other analysis other than only what it is already doing.

Nope, not so. If there are new things to examine then the current Seti
Classic could easily be updated to add those checks/tests/routines to the
analysis.

Sorry, not so. One of the important ideas behind Boinc is that updates for making new science are made very easy for the developers, and automatic (easier still!) for the users.

In the not too distant past, each 'update' of s@h classic has caused problems and frustrations for all.

Nothing in the search for ET requires boink (vs Seti Classic).
Its poorly designed software and the proof is right in front of everyone:
Is it running anywhere's near normal? nope. Has it always had problems?
yep, right from the git-go. Did they test it well enough before release?
nope - not even close. The thing is... somebody is making money on boink,
not sure who or how, but why else would you offer some of your own (Seti's)

Agreed that Boinc is more complicated than s@h classic and that the system is still being developed. Testing using the huge free group of users is the quickest way to get the system developed. OK, so that might be a slightly painful 'baptism of fire' sometimes.

Money? A big part of the problem is that THERE IS NO MONEY.

And an important IDEAL of SCIENCE is that the scientific work is done for the good of all Mankind. It seems to work very well with the system of open peer reviewed articles that 'give away for free' all useful scientific results. Another example is "Open Source" software that is freely available, peer reviewed, and usualy vastly better than the more expensive 'proprietary' restricted stuff.


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part of Seti's base user group is now working on other projects, and its
only possible due to boink -  it wasn't possible with Seti classic.

And that is another important part of Boinc. s@h will not have enough data to keep everyone always busy. There are also lots of other DC projects 'reinventing the wheel' for the projects infrastructure. Combining all into Boinc is a VERY GOOD IDEA for a number of Very Good Reasons.

This is a scandal in the making - mark my words. The whole story of boink
isn't known yet but it will come out eventually. Think about it, i know it
sounds wacky but... just think it over.
We've been boink'd alright, and boink'd good!

Yep. All good fun and good science and now good for s@h AND other DC projects.

Hang in there.

Good luck,
Martin