Subject: Re: What the hell is up with BOINC?
From: "Eric" <nospam@no.nospam.not>
Date: 02/09/2005, 18:32
Newsgroups: alt.sci.seti

"f/fgeorge"  wrote in message ...

You must not remember the early days of Classic! It was at least as
bad as Boinc has EVER been!
Classic's problems are MANY and have been mentioned MANY times before
but basically it is a program that has outlived its usefulness and is
being replaced. There are over 50 MILLION results from Classic that
STILL need verifying to see if they actually found anything! The
program cannot track who downloads and who uploads a workunit, making
cheating a DISTINCT possibility. Cheaters HAVE been caught but it is a
laborious process hand checking the data unit by unit. Part of the
problem was the old one crunched unit means one credit. This
encouraged people that were just in it for the credits to find ways
around properly crunching and returning units. There are MANY other
things like Berkeley can't supply enough units for all of users until
they bring some more projects on-line so they keep sending out the old
units over and over and over just to keep us happy. Part of that
solution was solved when other Scientists asked if there was a way
they could jump on the bandwagon of Distributed Computing. Berkeley
was having "issues" with Classic and decided to design and write a
whole new program that would be the foundation for at least part of
their problems AND allow us users to setup our computers to crunch for
other projects that we liked. These other projects allowed Berkeley to
be able to start the process of switching from classic to Boinc. We
users would have multiple projects to choose from and would NEVER run
out of work!
Is Boinc having growing pains? ABSOLUTELY!!! Will it get better? Again
ABSOLUTELY!!! Will it be today? NO!  Will it be sooner rather than
later? HOPEFULLY!! If you can't live with these new ways of doing
things then by all means take your computers and do something else
with them, we WILL miss your help! BUT some will carry on and we WILL
make the program BETTER than Classic ever thought of being, and maybe
then you will come back. You are more than welcome to stay and help us
in our journey, but you are also welcome to stand aside and watch.

Hi,

Your well-spirited reply is much appreciated.  :^)

I apologize to anyone offended by one of my previous postings in this thead
that was, well, very blunt.   It was a knee-jerk reaction to what I
considered a knee-jerk reply.  Such a reaction is normally out of my
character.

Anyway.  I'm with you on everything.  Seems like much of those issues
could've been addressed on the server (Berkeley) side though without a
totally new client.  I don't get why anyone would "cheat" either.  Whats the
point?  Its not like you get a dessert or anything.  Oh well. :^)

I'm going to play with CLI (Win) and see how that goes.  Eventually, hoping
to switch these dumb boxes to Linux as well.  I'm assuming Boinc for Linux
is probably very streamlined...

Cheers!
Eric