| Subject: Re: Has anoyone attempted to 'moonbounce' or EME ATSC UHF band TV signals, in the UHF band allocation? |
| From: phil-news-nospam@ipal.net |
| Date: 16/10/2005, 00:06 |
| Newsgroups: alt.sci.seti,sci.astro.seti,sci.engr.television.advanced,sci.engr.television.broadcast |
In sci.engr.television.advanced Dave <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote:
| From what I know about EME, amateurs use reasonably high powers, of the
| order of 100's of Watts, with many using several thousand (not
| officially so, but in practice they do).
There's also the big antenna gains some of them use.
| Only morse is normally used, which can be read at very low S/N ratio
| (less than 1) in a narrow bandwidth. Single side band (SSB) is used too,
| but signal stenghts don't often allow its use.
|
| To use TV signals you are going to need
|
| 1) Much wider bandwidths. At least 3-4 orders of magnitude higher. So
| that implies signal powers 3-4 orders of magnitude higher to maintain
| the same S/N.
|
| 2) Much higher S/N, to decode, so even higher powers would be needed. I
| don't know, but I doubt you could do it with a S/N or less than 30 dB.
|
| This implies a power 6-7 orders of magnitude higher than what amateurs
| use, which puts it into the GW power levels. It is not obvious how those
| sorts of powers will be readily achieved.
If one wants to actually transmit information via EME, yes a lot of
power will be needed. The original experiment was not about carrying
any information, but merely detecting the presence of the carrier.
That only needs a very very narrow bandwidth, and knowing exactly
where, and about when, it will be.