Martin 53N 1W <ml_news@ddnospamddml1dd.co.uk.dd> wrote:

Wayne Brown wrote:
[...]

Boinc has already spawned an impressive amount of other new science already!

Everyone keeps talking about all the "new science" that the new BOINC
client will make possible for SETI, but I haven't yet seen anyone
explain why the new stuff couldn't be put into a SETI Classic client.

[...]


I'm sorry but this stuff isn't posted in mile high letters in your local 
newspaper or across special episodes of the Simpsons.

I don't subscribe to a newspaper and I don't watch the Simpsons, so it
wouldn't matter what's posted there.  In general, if it isn't posted in
alt.sci.seti or sci.astro.seti then I probably won't see it.

Take a look at the s@h site and also at The Planetary Society. If you're 
keen, there's various reports and papers to follow up. AND then there's 
the other projects that are actively taking advantage of the Boinc 
framework to easily and quickly kick start interest and processing into 
those something like 20 or so other projects.

I very seldom visit the web site, usually just to look up something
specific that's been mentioned here.  The last time I spent more than
a few minutes looking at anything other than the one or two top news
items on the SETI Classic home page was two or three years ago.  And as
I said before, I'm not interested in participating in any of the other
BOINC projects.

For the s@h data: The hydrogen density in our galaxy is being mapped, 
short duration pulsars and start death are soon to be searched, and then 
there's the Enhanced s@h client that offers TIMES TWO the analysis 
sensitivity of s@h-classic.

I'm glad to know the data is being used for things like this.

The code for s@h-classic simply cannot support the new variety of 
science. To try to keep s@h-classic going now would be a futile effort. 
If you /really/ /wanted/ you could put a wrapper around Boinc-s@h to 
give it the same GUI as for s@h-classic... It is all open source so it 
could be done if there was any interest.

I don't really care whether it has a GUI or not.  But in the past, when
a new version of the Classic client was released it was a simple matter
of downloading it from the SETI website, untarring or unzipping it in
the proper directory, and that was it.  I wouldn't care if the code
was modified, rewritten or completely replaced, if the same method of
installing and running it was used, without needing to change any of my
custom scripts or procedures for running it.  Since installing it in July
1999 I've pretty much let it run on autopilot, other than the occasional
client update.  I've sometimes gone for months at a time without even
needing to notice or remember that the Classic stuff is running on my
machines; that's the level of non-involvement I'd like to maintain in
running it.

How long have you been asleep on this?!

As I said above, I installed and customized it years ago, and other
than installing updates to the client a few times I've paid as little
attention as possible to what it's doing since.  Most of the time I
don't even know how many WUs I've processed.

-- 
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                           |  your pelt to the trapper."
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