Martin 53N 1W wrote:

Johan Plane wrote:
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I haven't said a word over the BOINC software in this thread. It is true that I didn't
like the forced transition, but I installed it, without any hazle whatsoever, and I'm
running it on my six computers at home 24/7. So I really don't understand what it is
you're ranting about now!

Sorry, we must be misinterpreting somewhere...

So you like the project but not the software?
And you feel that you already contribute enough?

To clarify my science and funding comments:

The science for s@h is very good and sound and has been peer reviewed.

As a science project, s@h _should_ be able to get funding. However,
politics that have nothing to do with real science have blocked funding
for _all_ "SETI"-type projects. Likely as a consequence of bad press
from all the UFO idiots.

s@h is based at the U of Berkeley. Others that know better than me can
try explaining the detail of how the funding works!

Happy crunchin',
Martin

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So you and f/fgeorge work in pairs, do you? (What does f/fgeorge stand for anyway? find
f*****g george, or what? It's hard to pay attention to people who doesn't have the guts to
sign their postings properly.)

Anyway: Yes, I like the project as such, otherwise I wouldn't have been a participant since
1999. I am however more interested in the science behind it and I was lead to beleive that
S@H was a legitimate science project under a well reputed US university. This thread has,
however, made me doubt that this is the case, and your reply doesn't give the straight
answer I would have expected.

As to the BOINC programme, I have no opinion whatsoever. It has it's flaws, one being that
you can't run a local serverpark with local centralized caching of workunits as you could
with the old software and an addon, like SetiQ. However, the workaround is to set the
connect intervals to 10 days, fill up the cache and then revert to 1 day. Also I dislike
that each of my computers have to have direct contact with the internet to upload the
results, as opposed to the SetiQ system. One can only pray that there will be a solution to
this, however I doubt it due to the complexity of the way the client communicates with the
S@H servers - the communication protocol as a whole seems to be unneccessary complicated.
However, the software seems to be doing what it's supposed to and I haven't had any of the
problems that others seem to have had, so I'm content with it, which, as mentioned above,
doesn't necessarily mean I like it.
BTW It was Wayne Brown that commented on the software, not me!

I agree with you that it's sad when the US Congress stops funding for political reasons,
however the way university science projects are funded in the US is alien to me since, here
in Sweden, all such projects are either funded by the state or through specific trust funds
with donated money. In this case S@H would probably be considered as basic/fundamental
research and as such get governmental funding (without the political influences). The
governmental funding of science is granted by a non-political board on basis of science
alone.

Johan