Subject: Science vs. God
From: Cosmo Joe
Date: 22/11/2008, 11:32
Newsgroups: alt.sci.seti

Science vs. God

    Just like alcohol and gasoline don't mix, neither does science and God, in this case, Jehovah, though generally it can be any god achieving ascension among mortals through warfare, will always conflict with the truth.
    Just as the parable in Genesis about The Tree of Knowledge warns us not to seek Enlightenment, any god claiming to have created the Cosmos has lied, for the essence of the Cosmos itself cannot be created.
    I would think that all gods might know this, though of this I remain uncertain.
    What a god can create is a galaxy, such as our Milky Way galaxy. To do this minor act, which can happen anyway by accident, all one needs to do is to cause a coalescence of the bodies which make up a galaxy, such as stars, dust and gases.  A gentle spin is all that is needed, and viola, everything begins to spin around its gravitational center, whilst at the same time, continually attracting and drawing in new materials.
    Those who end up deep inside this massive structure, usually 100,000 light years across, can see nothing than it.  So when their god proclaims that He has created the entire firmament, it would seem apparently true.  We earthling have ended up on a planet in the outer arms of our galaxy, on its fringe, so we can see across the empty intergalactic space to other galaxies, such as the Andromeda galaxy, with our naked eyes, without the aid of a telescope.  Already, science and religion have come to disagree, the real truth being visibly apparent!  But what if the difference is inapparent, will religion and science come to disagree.  Not so in the case of Jewish scientists, who, though hell bent
on making a living in theoretical research and education, will never deviate from the symbolism of that little beanie on their head.  The same of course is true among all religio-scientists, who cannot bring their science home from the office.
    One of the best examples of this is Albert Einstein who forever could not completely refute Judaism;  always sort of admitting to pantheism, though he was never able to prove it!  The implication of all this is all quite astounding.
    First, we have a god who does not want the truth to be known.  Then we have the truth. And last, we have those highly educated, bright men, hand-picked by Jehovah and representative of earth's chosen people, who will some day, as expected, carry the mantle of Jehovah throughout His days on earth.  The problem is though, actually a catch twenty-two, there is inevitable conflict and jeopardy for Jewish scholars who pursue the truth on the road of Enlightenment.  The question is, will they and can they stay on the path.
    Be reminded, they are no more exempt than I from God's wrath and fury.  My wife is now paralyzed and unable to speak because I chose to teach my fellow man the truth about the Cosmos, particularly its underlying essence and history.  My short tenure as professor at UCLA is well known, though perhaps not greatly appreciated because of the views I put forth.  That was in the early seventies.
    The specific problem is this.  Neither fundamental Being nor entities can be created nor destroyed, in contrast to the high expectations among today's theoretician that the Higgs boson, if indeed there is one, is under the jurisdiction of God, much like Leibniz's monads.
    In direct association to this conflict, is the belief that Natural Laws, such as Plank's black body  radiation expression demonstrate that there is a higher order in designed creationism, despite many other expressions of less frugal precision, such as Mott's scattering expression, suggesting otherwise.  Of course, religio-scientists like to forget these things.
    Strictly in terms of knowing fundamental orders, the road to Enlightenment is equally strict:  there never being two or more opposing truths in conflict.
    Among these truths, the most salient is that the Cosmos is by accident and not design, and that fundamental and basic activities are not governed by reason and that at the most fundamental level of interaction, these interactions are governed by chance, will and cause and effect, the former of which being most prominent.
    Finally, at the subjective level of awareness, you are not predestined nor of cause, meaning and purpose, that latter of which you must make for yourself.
    Essentially, just as a rose, you live in an infinite Universe, unbounded in time and space, rather than some ill conceived swollen cosmic kernel, once the size of an acorn.  It is your home.  Within it are gods.  If you wish to worship them you may.  But if you chose to worship one who claims dominion over all, you have made a bad mistake. For more on this, go to http://3dnsg.org.