Re: Unity of astronomers
Subject: Re: Unity of astronomers
From: Pertti Koivisto
Date: 15/12/2008, 18:35
Newsgroups: alt.sci.planetary,alt.sci.seti,alt.sci.physics,sfnet.keskustelu.evoluutio

On 15 joulu, 00:50, david.willi...@bayman.org (David Williams) wrote:
-> In world astronomical community there is not a single person who
-> denies existence of ethical God.

Bullshit. Many astronomers are outspoken atheists. The late Fred Hoyle
wrote books opposing theistic fantasies. Cosmologists such as Stephen
Hawking are convinced that the existence of a god is not only
unnecessary but is contraindicated by observational evidence.

                             dow

  As I have said earlier Hoyle , Hawking or any other human beings
cann't change facts with their speech .
They have learned their basic school teachers that earth rotates
around the sun. They are right writing this.
But in the problem finding intelligence they fail. It is possible and
even inevitable that there is intelligence in the universe.
As All professional astronomers  I know this both by observation and
theoretical work.
Idea to find intelligence stirs the nations both in america and all
over the world.
The fact that there are human beings lacking intelligence is not
contradictory with the fact that intelligence exists.
Both facts are complementary. Hoyle and Hawking and many others cann't
grasp this truth.
To understand intelligence in deeper meaning than making jigsawpuzzle
is beyond grasp of many. Astronomical or cosmological problems are
such a level to solve that it means hope .
Many children in class rooms have problems in simple equations , they
cann't understand the way they are going.
To understand how pyramids in Egypt are built is beyond grasp of many.
Millions of stones weighin tons are put into
place in accuracy with very small tolerance . To get pyramid as  a
regular in such a huge dimensions is beauty and hugeness not only
architecture as everybody see but also and mostly beauty and greatness
of mathematics behind
that only astronomers making this math understand .
We can see this math in Nippur Iraq, in the city of Harjavalta (power)
in Finland , in Copan in mexico, in valley of kings in Egypt
and in many other places around the world.
As a cosmologist the math is hugely more and more complicated and
difficult. But to understand that intelligece exists in cosmos makes
it also possible that those who don,t understand this live in this
world. Universe is not only a place
of intelligent life inspite of the fact that it is possible to find
intelligence in universe.
All human beings can be studied and undestood being beyond human
imagination. Human beings lack intelligence so much that cann't
understand of himself.  Th idea that there in the unvese could be
intelligence who shoud understand is
beyond imagination of Hoyle and Hawking.
We are not living in dictatorship, as Hawking believes, but as
somebody said, in dictoraship.
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